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On 9/11/2018 at 12:32 PM, Erich said:
I am not totally on board with the premise it's a dying caliber. It would have to have been popular at some point. Its always been a niche and not widely adopted. Fact is only true enthusiasts, LEO, and industry know much about it. Its fair to say that 40 cal. is dying and recently in disfavor, and it does seem their fates are tied together by platforms that are a simple barrel swap. Sig is discontinuing some 40 platforms, but in some cases retaining the 357 barreled version for example.
No doubt 40's where the gateway for many many who discovered it, While it wont die, it wont get more popular unless you employ methods to drive masses.
The reality is the vast numbers of the buying public are not knowledgeable (and not members of gun boards). They do not, or simply refuse to do research to find out the truth. Sad as it may be, today those masses prefer info and believe what is spoon fed to them via facebook, twitter and youtube. That is how you get uneducated masses to do things they never know they should be doing.
So you need a to make a presence, or get a media maker to campaign where these masses reside and spend their time.
Whiskey as an anology. 6-8 years ago I could go into any Total Wine and see cases of many of Buffalo Trace's high end Bourbons @ $80. I use to get a bottles of Pappy or Staggs 18 once every quarter or so. They could not sell it. The bearded man-bunned Millennials had no clue what it was as they KNEW it was all about Tequila (Much like 40 cal was for 20 years). Then some media makers and Hollywood decided Tequila was out and it was all about Whiskey variants. You started seeing it in TV and movies. Now you can pretty much only source those online @ 4x to 10x that cost, or have the secret hook up.
Very well said you had great info that helped out tremendously.
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On 9/8/2018 at 6:06 PM, Quavodus said:
Theres a lot of good calibers that for some reason just don't make the grade. One that I thought was a good idea is the .41 Action Express. It worked in a gun that could change from 9 mm. Two calibers in the same gun.
True! That's crazy I never heard of the .41 Action Express.... would have been nice to trying it out.
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3 minutes ago, MacGyver said:
Consumers just have a lot of choice - and have frankly already made up their mind.
Police departments and other public buyers really chose .40 S&W over .357 Sig in the ‘90s and early ‘00s.
It will remain a niche round at this point. It will likely stay available - less available than the big calibers, but probably a box or two in any big store.
The heart of the matter is that it would take an enormous amount of money to market it to the masses at this point to try to offset mediocre gun rag press over the last 20 years. And, no one is going to invest that in this market.
If it’s your thing, enjoy it. But, it’s probably as available as it’s going to get.
Yea I agree with you on that one. IT would be very difficult to change minds that are already "made up" and or recover from the bad press but man would it be cool to see someone actually do something amazing in this caliber to really open the eyes to other enthusiasts that have already made up their minds to what a great round it is.... and invest the money... it takes money to make money lol.
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4 minutes ago, tnhawk said:
If the price and availability of ammunition improve, I can see the .357 sig as a good option. If I have a caliber, I want to have more than on gun using that caliber.
I totally agree with you options are always nice.
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5 minutes ago, Gotthegoods said:
No nothing about the HK but with Sig discontinuing some models (avail in .357) you may find some better price points.
Yea I was hoping the once elusive HK .357 sig would possibly pop up with people buying into the hype that the caliber and round are dying...all I can do is keep my fingers crossed and
and keep an eye out I may get lucky one day. NOTE : GOOD LUCKLUCK TO SELF!! LOL
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2 minutes ago, SWJewellTN said:
I converted both of my P320's to .357 Sig. I like a little extra umf to the 9 that it provides. I reload to reduce costs. Buying the brass to begin with costs more, but after that it's perfectly reasonable.
That would be an excellent solution if only there was a safer more convenient way to produce reloadable it would help encourage others to buy .357 SIG....heck that sounds like something I would personally love to learn how to do so any info I would love the help....but as we sit with the world today people are flat out lazy and I think we can convince more people to get a .357 sig and buy ammo than we can if we tell em its cheaper to make their own lol. But I would definitely say if like a class on this could be taught to people it would certainly be worth a try to help grow the market.
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4 minutes ago, Gotthegoods said:
Having just added .357 Sig (and .40) because of an awesome gun deal, I've been learning about this round.
I was NOT planning on adding another caliber to my mix.
It's early in the process, but I think I shoot the .357 better than .40
As an original .357 mag guy, I think it's a pretty cool roound and beginning an emotional attachment.
I like how it mimics .357 magnum, just not sure if the improved barrier penetration is needed, considering the Hornady Critical Duty in 9mm does well.
A PCC or PDW in .357 Sig would be awesome. I saw a chassis for Glock and Sig.
Practice ammo price is a deterrent. Off the shelf I can buy 9 for $10/50, .40/.380 for $13/50 and .357 Sig jumps to $25-$40/50 (similar to .357 mag)
SD ammo is surprising affordable, price per round in line with most 9/.40/.45 I compared it to.
Welcome aboard!
Thanks for the welcome!!! Yes I love the .357 sig it shoots very well.... the price of ammo, I believe truly is the damper on the flourishment of this caliber....
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11 minutes ago, tnhawk said:
While there is a market for the .357 sig, I'm continually hearing people are reducing the number of calibers they have. I recently added 10 mm to my list. I try to put a few boxes on the shelf every time I go the range. If I decide to add another caliber, .357 sig would likely be my choice. That would require the necessity of acquiring several more pistols.
NICE! tnhawk! There is a market for. 357 sig but its dying do to the bad rap of this caliber. Its sorta like a putbull....great family dog but its thought of as viscous... with the bad rap people had to reinvent the Pitt bull and now you have the bully breeds. And they are selling like hotcakes.... it's not hard to make things now days with new technologies at our finger tips so why do we accept any round to be expensive?we are the market...we control influence it so let's speak out and make these companies aware we are ready for a .357 sig market to flourish and change the bad aura associated with it.....I would like to get a 10 mm one day! YEA gotta stock up on ammo when you have these type of caliber guns.
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1 hour ago, TNman207 said:
DWARREN123 is unfortunately correct. Production is driven by sales. That said, sales of 357 Sig could be enhanced if USPSA and/or IDPA would authorize the round for competition in the major division. My Sig 1911 Nightmare Carry is an excellent pistol and the 357 is a flat shooting round. Ammo prices are a bit high but could be lowered if the demand increased. Opening the 357 Sig to competition sport shooting would be a great first step.
Nice answer! TNman 207!!! These are the type of answers I'm looking for... sorry Dwarren123 I'm not really looking for short ended obvious answers....I'm quite aware that sales drive whats manufactured but what can we do to increase the encouragement of sales? How can we peak the interest of other new gun owners and convince them to go .357 sig instead of the norm? What's the best way to get other gun enthusiasts to convert to .357 sig. How can we show these major companies that there is a want for this round and pistol?....these type of questions I am looking to be answered.
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How can we convince major gun companies that the .357 sig is not a dying caliber and is an amazing round that is in a league of it's own when compared to other stout rounds, also convince more major gun manufacturers to start producing the gun again in multiple variations to appease their loyal gun community. THESE GUNS WILL SALE!!!
JUST MAKE EM ALREADY!
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Hello guys, I know this gun (H&K usp .357 sig) is hard to find but I'm sure someone is selling one somewhere. Please is anyone is selling one or if you know somewhere I can go to find one I would love some advice. I was reading that a member named Creepy was selling his a couple yrs back I wonder if he ever got rid of it? Again some help would be greatly appreciated thanks guys!!
Looking for H&K usp .357 sig for sale....anybody please help?!?!
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Lol well if you find it stl it to me
I'll be waiting..... keep a look out for my long lost gun LOL!!!