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Just for completeness, there are compounds for various racist organizations.
The NAACP and nation of islam have compounds ?
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If I was starting over again from scratch on food I think I would put back at least 1 starter pack per person per month for everyone in my house until I got at least a year. It isn't everything but it is a great start and covers the basics.
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jayC, I deal with more prescription drug abuse than meth and weed put together. In many cases the person has been prescribed them and even the person selling them has as well. It's just one person has to have more. I'm wondering how you view that one.
Every cop I have talked to about that subject says the vast majority of those problems are on medicaid, see my earlier post about the gov creating problems.
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I m going to stop this and say I wish people would just lock their doors, hide valuables, and take care of themselves. I wouldn't have no where near as much work to do.
We used to live in a society where you really didn't need to do that. But that was when we used to shoot or at least really punish crime and before we started as a society raising criminals generations with welfare, food stamps and housing projects. Makes about as much sense as a farmer raising rabid dogs.
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Dave,
My world view is far different from yours... I see a government that creates a huge mess, then over reacts and creates a bigger mess... and a bunch of police officers trying to do the best they can to clean the mess up. It's a Sisyphean response to a self created problem. Focus on the root causes, the mess will become manageable, and we won't need such drastic police powers to resolve the remaining mess.
People on both sides of this argument have said things I agree with and things I disagree with but this seems to be the truest statement I have seen yet. I have MANY close friends in law enforcement and I have never considered cops in any way the enemy. I have seen cops ( and all of us in various ways ) reacting to government created problems that ends up taking away all of our rights in order to try and give us some safety. It never works.
My favorite example of looking at the big picture is the myth that our departments are understaffed. Weactually have too many cops , it is just that our prisons are undercrowded.
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How? (I already know the answer, my point is that highlights yet something else the government shouldn't be doing).
If that is the real concern, pass a law that says the government won't spend any money on somebody injured while not wearing a seat belt.
Then people are free to do what they want, and we don't have yet another useless law on the books.
They would rather work things towards the goal of being able to dictate exactly how we live with the excuse that it costs the gov money due to healthcare.
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And why is it against the law for an adult to not wear a seatbelt to begin with? You can jump out of a plane, or go mountain climbing in the dead of winter... yet somehow you're not responsible enough to choose whether to wear a seatbelt or not? How exactly does you not wearing a seatbelt cause me physical harm?
Beacuse it costs the state millions if you don't wear a seatbelt.
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I don't really things LEOs are running serial numbers on every weapon they come across for no reason,
It appears some are.
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Not at all defending it, and it's a non-issue for me since I don't go to gun shows, but given that at a gun show there is a lot of careless gun handling, much of which is done by mouth breathers, it's somewhat comforting to know that there's no ammunition in play. I can readily imagine someone pullling out their loaded Hi-Point C9 from their waistband and attempt to see if it fits in a holster that's on a table, muzzle sweeping about 30 people in the process. If you don't believe this happens, it's the reason why many shops have about 20 signs at the entrance and throughout the store saying "if you have a loaded firearm, it stays in your holster." Those same shops will tell you that on a regular basis, someone pulls out a loaded gun in their store.
The general public is stupid and dangerous, and unfortunately, some of those people are gun owners. Lowest common denominator.
I think you are falling into the trap of believing a sign makes a difference.
I am unmovable in my belief that every time a sign is posted I am in more danger.
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Quick question. I've never put much thought into it until now........lots of places don't let you carry. Most people choose not to go into that business. They've even come up with little business cards for the manager/proprietor telling them why they're losing business. Those same people will go to a gunshow that restricts carry and not blink an eye. Why? What is the difference b/w a restaurant that restricts concealed carry and a gun show that does the same?
Glad I am not the only one that thinks like this.
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I suspect it is very open to interpretation since Knoxville is not required to post.
Knoxville doesn't have to post ?
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I would treat you with respect, explain why I was running the numbers, and give you the information on who to contact to make a citizens complaint against me. If you didn’t like my explanation or think it was appropriate; you wouldn’t like the one you would get from them either. Sorry, you feel like a criminal when your gun is getting checked. Do you feel that way when they run your DL and check for warrants?
Is that pretty much department policy in Rutherford county ? I had heard some departments were pushing that way.
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Thanks Chip for not just completely dismissing where I was going from.
Can a private business prevent any car with an airbag from entering their parking lot ?
I am pretty sure that they would be toast in civil court if not criminal court as well.
Then why do we all just lay down and accept it with firearms ?
The reason it bothers me more is that I can't even find any mention of an airbag in the Constitution but I can find what is supposed to be a right to bear arms specified and I can also see a clear intent from our founders that it was not just something you could do but something that it was your duty to do as a citizen.
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Another thing to consider that probably comes into play in these situations is that an officer can ask you for lots of things and if you agree then he can do it. He may or may not have the right to search your car but when he says do you mind if I search your car and you say sure go ahead you gave him that right.
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This appears to be an answer to this article.
Record check an ineffective nuisance | The Tennessean | tennessean.com
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Do you have a right as a homeowner to tell someone they couldn't carry a gun in your house?
I do, I also have the right to do all those other things I listed in my house but a business owner does not.
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I guess I don't really understand what you are getting at. Business owners prohibit a lot of things. If you look, there are "no solicitation" signs on many businesses. That's a First Amendment prohibition. If you walked in and started preaching, I suspect many businesses would escort you out the door. So, I don't see this as a "guns only" issue.
You are right I guess it isn't guns only but it still makes no sense to me.
See if any of the statements below work as a business owner.
No hijabs allowed.
No crutches allowed.
All employees must remain topless while on the property.
Speak English or leave.
Speak Spanish or leave.
Police officers must disarm and remove vests before entering.
If a business owner has the right to tell me I can't carry my gun then they should also have to the right to do all those other things.
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I guess I am terrible at making my point.
I believe a private business should be just that. I believe as an owner if I want to do something at my business that either discriminates against or makes my employees or patrons less safe then it is my business and they can choose not to be there.
The problem I see is that the only time that really applies is when it comes to firearms.
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The supposed reason for most of those other requirements to have a business is safety. So it is generally recognized that even in a private business the owner has to do certain things for safety.
Does anyone here actually believe you are safer having to leave your gun in the car , or in the case of certain employers having to leave it at home because you can't have the gun in their parking lot ?
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Answer this very simple question, what right do you have to carry a weapon onto my property?
Absolutely none !
But what right does the government have to tell me I have to have a rail on my stairs at work ?
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The same Laws that tell you what you can and can not do in your Private Home.
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No, not really, I don't have to have a beer license , liquor license, have my kitchen inspected regularly by the health department, have handicap parking or handicap restroom, marked fire exit's. I could go on but I think maybe you are starting to see where I am coming from. If it is your business and by god you dictate what happens in there then you wouldn't have to comply with all those things to stay in business.
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I have the right to refuse service to anyone. I can do all of those things listed. By the way, none of those are rights. Your right to carry a firearm comes from the second amendment. The bill of rights does not apply to private property, only to the doings of the government. I believe you are confusing rights with privileges.
So if it isn't rights then what does dictate what the owner of a private business can or can't do ?
As a business owner can you tell the OSHA inspector that he isn't allowed inside ?
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If I were running a business I could suspend any portion of the bill of rights I choose. Though really only the 1st and 2nd would really be applicable, I can prohibit free speech and your supposed right to carry a firearm. If you have an issue with these I can ask you to leave, and you do have the right to go elsewhere or be arrested for trespassing.
But can you really ? Can you say only people with Red hair can come in ? Can you say everyone must remove all their clothing at the door ? Heck could you say that everyone MUST carry a gun to come in ? Could you ask people to leave because they were speaking a foreign language ?
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1.You have the "Right to Start Your own Private Business. "
2. You have a Right to Leave if you don't like " The Private Business !"
3.Your Rights to do as you wish ends when you enter my door.
* if you disagree see *2
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If it truly was that way then I would be fine with it but why is it ok for a private business to suspend some but not all of my rights ?
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Dogs need exercise,discipline and affection in that order. Give them those three things and with the rare exception that you got a dumb one they will do anything you want.