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  1. My wife and I saw an off-duty RSO shooting fully automatic with his family at Stones River Range and you could smell the beer on him everytime he walked by. We didn't stay long that day. Couldn't beleive the other RSOs didn't say anything, he might have been a higher up for all I know. He and his wife had multiple full auto weapons and were doing regular magazine dumps. I've also heard of the staff drinking and shooting after hours at Stones River. It made us very nervous and unfortunately makes me think this happens more than we would like to admit.

    There is a training facility that I know of personally where the lead instructor regularly drinks all day. It is a big facility on private property. No one seems to think it's a big deal. Personally, I do. I don't shoot there any more.

  2. NCIC has been up all day. We have been running stuff all day. TCIC might have been down for firearm purchases.

    Don't know. The email from Doug Woodlee said that the NCIC system was down due to a hardware problem. Then, later in the afternoon, we got another email from him saying the federal system was back up, but they (the TBI) had "hundreds" of transactions to catch up on because the federal system had been down so long. I know that we had stuff pending for several hours and they finally all came back approved late in the afternoon around 4 ish. It's certainly possible that he meant something different.

  3. I was at a gun shop and watched a purchase around 1:30 today.

    Hmmm...ok. Don't know and certainly can't argue, but as of just a few minutes ago (almost 3:00PM) the TBI reps were saying the system is still down and we still have transactions pending. It's possible that at 1:30 the system was up temporarily or the reps haven't been told it's fixed yet.

  4. The NCIC is down at the federal level today due to some sort of undisclosed hardware problem. It's been down since about 11:00 am or so, and they do not know when it will be back up.

    Which means, since it's the NCIC and not the TBI, there are currently no legal gun sales going on at any dealer in the U.S. until the FBI is back up.

  5. I see this topic come up pretty often, and each time I have to wonder what the perceived differences in guns shops and pawn shops are. In reality, they are basically the same thing. My experience with pawn shops pretty much mirrors my experience with gun stores; looking at thousands of overpriced, abused pieces and occasionally finding a jewel.

    I think the perceived difference is that thieves take merchandise to pawn shops because pawn shops will take a gun from anyone without checking it first, where as gun shops won't risk their FFL...they will always check it first. For the most part, I would guess that is untrue, but I think it's the perception some people have.

  6. I'd be interested in knowing what are the chances that any of the guns in the pawn shops are stolen. I know they are supposed to run number checks with the PD, but what if the owner, like most people, didn't have their numbers recorded? I always hear that guns are the #1 item stolen from homes. Could buying stolen guns be encouraging thieves to steal mine and your guns? I don't know if any of these concerns are legit. I guess that's why I'm asking.

    If you purchase a gun at a pawn shop in Tennessee and they do the normal TBI background check, the gun is checked at the time of purchase to be sure it doesn't show stolen or wanted. It's standard operating proceedure with the TBI. If they don't do the TBI bacground check, then they aren't following the law and you shouldn't buy a gun there anyway.

    So... by that, I mean that, even if the gun IS stolen, it should show up on the background check, so they won't sell it to you anyway.

    ETA: so to answer another part of the question: if you buy a gun at a pawn shop and it shows up later to be stolen because the person didn't have the serial number, you at least have some record that you purchased the gun legally. That however, won't change the fact you will probably lose the gun and whatever you paid for it. You run that same risk, although probably not as likely, at a gun shop if you buy a used gun.

  7. My personal experience with the P250 as far as shooting it has been very positive. The only negative thing I know about them is they don't sell well and Sig has lowered the price on them. In my experience with that, the reason they don't sell well is people that come in and ask for Sig pistols almost always want the traditional double action version such as the P229 or P226, and people that want a lighter polymer gun are usually looking for Glocks or XDs.

  8. Just curious....do you conceal the VIN on your car? If not, aren't you worried that someone will just walk up, write it down, and cause you all sorts of problems? When you sell a car, do you take steps to conceal the VIN from all but the final buyer?

    I don't really want to get in the middle of the argument, but I'd think the VIN of your car is a little different than the serial number of your gun. The VIN of your car is actually registered to you in an (reasonably) accessible database. I think it would be easier to prove you own a specific car than to prove you own a specific gun. If you bought a gun from another individual, or if you bought it from an FFL more than 25 years ago, or from a dealer that is out of business, there's no paperwork proving the gun is yours. There's plenty of proof you actually own the car.

  9. I think that I would have let him know that you would have also called the cops and gotten him for aggravated assault. Technically you could not have been charged if you drew your weapon because at that point you could clearly state that you felt your life was in danger. I dont think any jury would hold you accountable for drawing your weapon on someone or even shooting them for that matter if it came down to where you had to.

    Had he pointed the gun AT ME, I would have handled the situation much differently, but he never actually pointed at me.

  10. True, but I think we tend to expect a bit too much from the guy making $7/hr behind the gun counter at such places.

    Any modern JHP ammo will perform adequately. Worry more about how it feeds in your gun and hitting your target.

    Addtionally, a whole lot of people believe that 9mm is inadequate. I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying so many people believe it, it would be hard for me to fault some guy for saying he would rather have a larger caliber. I would just ignore his opinion and buy whatever I wanted. That's one of the reasons I very rarely ask a salesman's opinion on anything.

    I also make it a personal policy never to buy handguns at big box stores where the employees aren't allowed to carry handguns. Just a personal thing.

  11. I would demand to talk to the owner or manager, and if that produced no results that's the last time I would set foot in that GS.

    I called the store later and talked to the owner. I was told that it was no big deal because they know their guns are unloaded. I told him it WAS a big deal to me, and that if someone pointed a gun at me, they would likely find a gun pointed back at them. I mentioned that there is no requirement for me to "know" whether or not their gun is loaded, but I could guarantee that MINE would be. He just didn't think it was a big deal, so I told him that I would never come back into his store.

  12. I've always thought that the biggest thing hurting local gunstores (vs buying on the internet) was sales tax.

    Tithing to the government (9.75% in Rutherford Co) on a $500-1500 gun sucks ass and is usually more than shipping and transfer fees related to an internet purchase.

    It's related to what I said earlier. If I could buy guns for my store at the prices some of the online places apparently can, I could sell the guns at a price that would make it worthwhile to buy locally. But when a gun at an online store is $550 including shipping, and my cost to buy the gun is $540 plus shipping, I can't have a good price. Just to make $40, I'm already $60 higher than the online store. It doesn't happen with every gun, but it's common.

  13. I don't know about the specifics of the store you mentioned, but one of the things that kills us (meaning, at the store where I work) is buying through distributors. Some or maybe all manufacturers sell to large volume retailers at a much better price that we can get things for, even directly.

    For instance, a box of ammo that you can buy at Wal-Mart for $11.95 literally costs us $12.00 a box from the manufacturer, or even a little more from a distributor, then they add shipping which is usually 50 cents to a dollar a box on average, and the ten cent ammo tax. Even to make just a couple of dollars markup per box, we have to sell it for $16 or $17.

    Another really big issue is guns. There are high volume online places that sell guns new including shipping literally for less than it costs us to purchase the same gun wholesale prices.

  14. I was at a gun show once and a vendor was demonstrating a laser to a customer by pointing his loaded gun at customers walking around the floor.

    I was also once in a gun store where a sales guy was showing a customer guns...he would take the gun out of the counter, point it directly at the customer's chest, pull the trigger, then open the slide to check to see if it was loaded, then point it at the customer's chest again and pull the trigger again. After about the third time he did it, I left.

  15. I average about 30,000 miles per year. The first car I bought was new and less than four years later, it had over 100,000 miles on it. The car I have right now has just over 200,000 miles on it in about 8 years, but for about 2 years of that 8 years, I worked and home and didn't drive much.

  16. Anyone consider he was picking out a gun for his wife? I never heard him say the gun was for himself. They were paid to provide proof of a predetermined point of view.

    But didn't he say that he couldn't pass a background check or didn't think he could and then pass off the paperwork to the woman? At that point, it becomes a suspicious transaction (suspicion of a possible straw purchase), and it's up to the dealer to decide if he wants to finish it. The problem isn't that it might be legal. The problem is, it might not be legal, and a dealer can be fined and lose his license the <STRIKE>first time it happens.</STRIKE> the first time he gets caught.

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