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The sociological impact would be catastrophic as well, and has already started. California's leading industry has always been farming. Where the wells have dried up there is no farming, and where there is no farming there are scads of unemployed farm workers and double scads of those who will no longer be able to make a living working in the farm support industries. The ripple effect through the state's already weakened economy would be humongous, even if you forget about the State's ridiculous spending deficits. We could conceivably be looking into one of the worst people nightmares in American history.
I don't think desalinization plants are the wonderful answer they're cracked up to be either. They would have to be funded by public funds. But how do unemployed farm workers pay the taxes necessary to build them, much less afford the premium prices needed to sustain them? And there is another problem with desalinization plants - mountains. If you look at a topo map of California, you will notice that the coast is lined with hills and mountains that the water would have to be pumped over, either before or after treatment. I would think that water bills in California would be as much or more than wintertime heating bills in Minnesota if desalinization is adopted as a significant solution.
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I think it's time to go talk about guns. They're less dangerous than this thread. :pleased:
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One of the more well-known pistols among enthusiasts is the Browning Hi Power, Mr. Browning’s last design. Its granddaddy was placed into production as the FN Model P35 in 1935 and it has been made in the millions over the years since then. For instance the German Army captured the FN factory when it overran Belgium in 1940 and produced over a quarter million of these guns for its own use before the war ended in 1945. After the war, FN concentrated mostly on the military market until Browning Arms decided to market the gun in the United States as the Browning Hi Power around 1950. It has been sold here continuously ever since.
By 1970 FN and Browning’s Patents on the P35 had expired, so the Communist Hungarian arms conglomerate, FÉG, began producing the most faithful copy of the Hi Power ever seen outside of the FN plants in Belgium and Portugal. Completely reverse engineered, FÉG simply called it their Model P9. It was imported into this country during 1985 and 1986, and again from the early 90’s until FÉG declared bankruptcy in 2004. Importers such as Kassnar Imports, KBI, Century International, SSME, and Tennessee Guns International imported the guns under several model numbers. The most prolific of the importers was the Kassnar family’s KBI Inc., which imported them under their in-house model number PJK-9HP, and also as the Charles Daly Hi Power, which is what this story is all about. Here’s a photo of a first issue FEG P9, known as the KBI firm’s PJK-9HP. This is the gun that became the Charles Daly Hi Power discussed in the following paragraphs.
Along about 2006 or so, KBI Inc., came up with a different way to produce and import these guns. He began importing them as unfinished kits which would be finished by contractors in the USA under the banner of the “Charles Daly Hi Power.” The real draw here is that they would be the only mass produced Hi Power ever to have “Made in USA” stamped on them. Unfortunately, it didn’t work. The Charles Daly Hi Power cost more to produce than it sold for, and KBI Inc., lost money on every one they sold. But they are darn good guns that are well worth their money and then some. If you hanker for one or own one, here are some facts that may be helpful to you.
The first finishing contractor for these guns was Dan Wesson Inc., who finished the first 800 units (corrected 5/1/15 from the 500 originally stated) with serial numbers beginning in “HP.” The Dan Wesson guns were provided with dovetail slots set up for Novak style sights made to Browning Hi Power dimensions.
The remainder of the Charles Daly Hi Power production run was finished by Magnum Research, Inc., and carried the serial number prefix “HPM.” The Magnum Research guns had their dovetail slots also set up for Novak style sights, but to the dimensions of the Colt M1911. The Charles Daly pistol in the photos is a Magnum Research "HPM" pistol and the sights are indeed made for the M1911
OK, so what about the guns. Are they worth anything? Yes, they certainly are. And they’re getting hard to get because their owners know what they have and don’t have much interest in getting rid of them. If you find one in good condition, you have a good gun made to the standards of well-made commonplace pistols, but not to the meticulous standard of finish workmanship found in the Browning gun. Their prices will run between a third and half as much as a new Browning Hi Power, so you can’t expect them to contain that gun’s premium finish work. I’ve owned five of the P9’s marked as CDHP’s and PJK-9HP’s and have never had a malfunction, so I think very well of them.
They came with Uncle Mike's black rubber grips, which are functional but not attractive enough for me, so they were replaced right quick with a set of Herrett’s Cocobolo grips. They come with the FÉG extended safety lever, which is one of the nicest ones around. The sights provided on these guns were big dot express sights, which my old eyes and old habits just couldn’t get the hang of, so I replaced them with a set of adjustable sights from the now-defunct Miniature Machine Company of Las Vegas. The exterior finish is matte all over except for the sides of the slide, and the blue job is more grey blue than black blue. The external polishing of the metal is very well done.
How accurate are they? Every one of them I’ve had were just as accurate as any of the mainstream 9mm’s like the Beretta 92, the Smith and Wesson 5906, and even the Browning Hi Power. If you can handle the sights, the inherent accuracy is there, and most of them have good enough triggers in them to really develop their accuracy potential. And any magazine that will work in the Browning Hi Power will also work in the Charles Daly Hi Power. I don’t think you can go wrong with one if you can handle a single action gun. So if you happen to run into one over at the LGS be careful, they tend to want to follow you home. Hope this information will be helpful to you.
EssOne
PS: How about the double action FÉG Hi Power pistols you see on the gun auction sites? The sellers are badly mistaken - they’re not Hi Powers at all. They were designed as loose but fairly faithful copies of the Smith and Wesson Model 59 and have nothing in common with the Hi Power beyond the Colt/Browning locking system. They’re good guns in their own right; they just aren’t Hi Powers.
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If they force the issue they can't use it in criminal proceedings. A DA isn't going to do that.
EDIT: However, the Feds aren't bound by that law.Thanks for digging, DaveTN. I thought it was a little more complicated than we might have supposed. I guess they have law schools for a reason. :pleased:
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OK, but what's the applicability of the statute? Does it apply only to Departmental interrogations done for suspected violations of Departmental policies not amounting to a criminal offense, or does it also apply to suspected criminal activities as well? If so, can it be invoked prior to an indictment, or only in response to same?
My key point is this: Although the officer may be entitled to some protections surrounding interrogations, does he also have immunity from submitting required reports surrounding the incident within the time limits specified in Departmental regulations for submission of such reports? These reports are required to be complete and thorough accounts of everything that occurred during the incident, and are usually required to be in within a fairly short time like immediately for a summary, 48 hours to be completed. etc. etc etc.
If the officer does not have immunity from timely reports submission, then the officers' complete written accounts of the incident will be in the hands of the Department posthaste and would not necessarily fall under the provisions of the labor contract since the release of arrest report information is usually dictated by law and a stringent set of Departmental rules regarding same. In this case, its release will fall under the purview of Departmental officials or the District Attorney. If the report is just a report of an investigation without an arrest, then the Department alone MAY have discretion in its release, but there are also time limits on these reports too.
What I'm getting at is that he may have ten days to submit to interrogation, but does he also have the same right to withhold submission of required police reports? I'd be very surprised if he does.
Chucktshoes, you post good, authoritative stuff, but we may be getting into some things so complex that a rule may not be fully understood until all the other related laws and regulations pertaining thereto are understood as well. That's the reason for my first question.
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One impediment to getting the story is that as stipulated in the union contract, the officers have 10 days before they can be interviewed about the incident.
You're kidding. Where's this coming from, and is it all-inclusive of all incidents?
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The governor is a Republican. Baltimore has been Democrat for 50+ years, and has elected black mayors 4 of the past 5 times. A can of worms has been opened up by the mayor whether she realizes it or not. If my business or home was burned and looted, I'd sue the city.
Yes I misspoke. Apologies.
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No but the cost of time and labor to install it is. Pennies add up.
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Who is going to pay for cleaning up the damage? Who is going to pay for the destruction of property? Who isn't going to try and sue the mess out of the city of Baltimore after the Mayor let's this go on? Ultimately, the poor taxpayers are the ones that end up footing the bill. The National Guard should have been called out a lot sooner to stop this type of nonsense.
Maryland is a solidly Democrat state with a Democrat state government. A stone's throw away are a Democrat President, titular head of his party, and his Democrat Attorney General. Both have come out in the recent past and said that the American police are mistreating blacks, and now we have a black man killed under seemingly suspicious circumstance while in police custody, and the black community is rioting against the cops. That isn't exactly the best recipe I can think of for a Democrat politician to be getting tough with the rioters right off the bat, especially by a military force. I personally agree with you sir, it is always best to address these problems decisively early on, but politics being what they are, I think a Democrat state government would rather have eaten glass than to have called out the National Guard in this particular situation until they were forced to. -
Didn't watch the vid, but that barrel was 1:8. The real mystery was how S&W's best barrel ever got on their cheapest AR in the first place.
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Probably for the same reason steakhouses serve great big steaks when they first open, but once their customer base is secure, they take the great big out of them.
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Ismalls, there is a going concern of a gun shop in Kingsport called "The Gun Rack' that is owned and operated on an everyday basis by a woman. She also supervises the store's 5 lane indoor pistol range and has a staff of several men working for her as salesmen and range officers. She was widowed several years ago, so she took the bull by the horns and runs a very good operation.FWIW
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His record may explain why he ran. It doesn't explain why he is dead.
I think that explanation is key to this whole thing. Well said, sir.
Dunno how that TGO David thing got up there. Sorry.
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Yes I watched the video and noted his complaints that Smith and Wesson dropped the Melonite barrel treatment, 5R rifling, and 1:7 rate of twist and therefore cheapened the rifle. He's probably right, but I don't see where dropping these things has anything to do with reliability or serviceability for home defense or hunting. No more so than dropping the dust cover and bolt forward assist affected those things. It would mean more to me if it wasn't for the fact that Del-Ton and others have done a land office business in supplying unlined barrels to the shooting community for a number of years, gazillions of them supplied with the 1:9 rate of twist. So this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me in terms of the serviceability of the rifle. The old ones were a better value, but that doesn't mean the new ones aren't good values anyway. Izzat too far off base?
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Can anyone give me a good reason why this rifle wouldn't be a perfectly adequate starter or home defense/hunting gun? That is, aside from not being a Noveske, LMT, BCM, LaRue, etc, and having scads of accessories hanging from it. I personally think Smith and Wesson did a smart thing here by sacrificing the dust cover, forward assist, chrome lined barrel, and 1:7 twist to get a reliable rifle into the marketplace for a good price. What do y'all think?
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1SW811036
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Well Essone thanks for your service and sacrifice. I was going to wait until August to post it, but at my age I felt I better do it while it was on my bwain!!
My pleasure, sir. Hey, don't feel bad about posting this early - I'm in the "don't buy green bananas" mode myself. :pleased:
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Good advice. Wonder how many will listen to it. (Nugent's video)
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Thanks for remembering. I reported to the East LA office of the CHP on August 8, 1965, three days before the Watts Riot began. From that time on the CHP provided 85% of all the police manpower deployed to riots in California throughout the 60's, 70's, and on into the 80's and 90's. I made it to three more in the next few years, two as a officer and the last one as a Sergeant Squad Leader. Funny, I guess I'm guilty of unfounded optimism because I never thought they'd start again on this scale. Guess my eyeballs ought to be purple because I was sure full of prunes on that one.
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If a person runs from a cop for no apparent reason, and the cops do not give chase, they are in deep stuff if he turns out to be an armed escapee who kidnapped and killed a family of five after the cops failed to chase him, even if it happens days later.. The courts support the principle of the man of ordinary reason and prudence, and I believe such a man would believe that when someone takes leg bail simply because he sees a cop, the cops act reasonably when they conclude that he has probably committed a crime he does not want to be apprehended for and give chase. That's my cop's take on the initial contact with the injured man.
But after that, I think there is something bad wrong here, and that's a cop's take too.
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The only issue I see with that is if you are driving without insurance and get stopped the officer can hold your license and impound your car and that leaves you without your HCP cause the LEO has it. I agree it seldom happens that an officer will do it but he is legally allowed to ticket you and take your license until you appear in court on the ticket and provide the court with proof of insurance......... :ugh: :ugh: :2cents:
I really like the idea of linking the HCP to the drivers license. But like everyone else I don't like the idea of a beat officer being able to tacitly suspend one's HCP in the manner bersaguy talks about. Sure wish there was an interest in overcoming this. The cost savings could be right nice.
'Course expecting politicians to embrace cost savings is like expecting Bill Clinton to embrace abstinence.
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Having been left to scrounge for specialized parts myself when a gun maker went bust, Para owners have my sympathy bigtime if all the guesstimates of continued parts availability on the 1911 Forums fall through. Scrounging usually ain't much fun.
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Welcome from a Ventura native who got his exit visa 19 years ago. If I ever go back, the Tennessee Highway Patrol will find ten bloody claw marks going west on I-40 'cause I ain't goin' easy!! You'll love it here.
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Thanks, its my first AR. I can see my BUIS through the PA red dot pretty well (lower 1/3 co-witness). It would be nice to have some magnification to aid accuracy, but I'm not a good enough shot for that to matter a whole lot. Minute of paper plate at 200 or so would suit me fine.
Does your butt stock have the storage compartment? Mine does and it's cavernous... I can easily fit two 10 rd stripper clips in there and can squeeze a 3rd in there if I don't need to get them back out in a hurry. :D Adding a little weight to the stock helps offset the nose heavy nature of forward mounted scopes. Balance is more important than overall weight.
Yes, mine is a Rock River stock and has the standard GI compartment. I keep extra parts, oil, and an Allen wrench for the iron sight in it. I'm trying to come up with a compact wrench to store in there for the scope mount I'm using. I keep the iron sight in the case and it returns to zero pretty accurately every time I remount it. But if I ever get into something where I need to do a sight swap in a hurry, I'll be running to fast to do it!
And I really agree about the balance too. Any time you mount a scope on the AR it wants to tip right or left and that drives me nuts, so I'm not too fond of scopes on them. The Burris AR 332 is basically a poor man's ACOG, but I do like it very much, and it tends to tip less than others. It's a 3X and goes for $400, but they occasionally run sales for $100 off, which is how I bought mine.
Minute of paper plate at 200? I should be so lucky!!! Try minute of car door! :pleased:
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Nice rifle yerself!! I guess it's true what they say about great minds traveling in the same gutter. :rofl:
My bet is that the PSA government contour FN barrel will shoot like a house afire. The thing I don't like about the AR332 scope is that I can't get a BUIS to work on it unless I move the scope farther forward than I really like it and I'm not into spending a hundred bucks on a mount. Guess I'm just a grouchy olphart who likes irons too much.
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This is a story about an AR build project that turned out really well. First, here's the culprit, my plain as mud "A2.5"
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For a number of years I’ve been stuck on the idea of an AR “short rifle” instead of a carbine. I envisioned a beautifully balanced, proportional little rifle that would have a 16” government contour barrel (not the M4 style) and a conventional fixed butt stock. As far as I know, nobody ever tried to market such an animal, at least I couldn't find one anyway. So I finally got my gumption up and put one together myself. (Actually I only built the lower, Spikes built the upper.)
What I did to arrive at my ultimate end, my “short rifle,” was to take a Spike’s Tactical 16” mid length flat top upper receiver assembly and mate it up with a standard, A3 lower receiver assembly. And boy does it mount, point, and swing like a million dollars. I've had the chance to wring it out on the range now and it shoots every bit as good as it looks, coming in at roughly 1.5 MOA with iron sights. Here's another view of it to give a better idea of its proportions. I think it's a pretty handsome rifle, myself.
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In the hands of a six foot, 190 pound shooter
One of my biggest goals was to keep it mechanically clean, simple, and relatively unsophisticated. Mission accomplished. The Spike’s upper receiver assembly came with an M16 bolt carrier group and a 16” government contour CMV/CL barrel with a 1:7 rate of twist, and a MagPul MOE forend. The rear sight is an LMT stand alone unit. The Spike's lower receiver is set up with a Geissele SSA trigger, an Armalite ambi selector and lower parts kit, a MagPul MIAD pistol grip, and a JP Enterprises tuned buffer spring. To preserve the look I was after I topped it off with a (gasp) black M1/M14 sling. So as such things go today, it’s a pretty plain Jane rifle that won't turn a lot of heads at a gadget convention, but then I don't care much for luggage racks and running boards on my cars, either.For my first accuracy tests I fired four 100 yard bench rest groups with Outback and Privi 69 grain and 75 grain target hollow points. They were fired with iron sights and with the rifle resting on my range bag. They all measured right at 1 5/8" per each four shot groups. A 3x scope put them into an inch. I've sat at the bench with common XM193 ammo and, shooting off my elbows without a rest, dinged the 12"X18" dingers at 240 yards with egotistically pleasing regularity. Heck, at my age I'll settle for that! Here is one of the groups I mentioned.
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[/URL]I've tried several borrowed scopes on it and only one of them worked well and didn't louse up the balance and make the gun want to get "tippy". That was the Burris A332 Prism sight, but I haven't bothered to photograph the gun with a scope on it because I'm still not convinced I'm going to keep it scoped. I just like the balance better with the irons.
What's the "A2.5" all about? Well, it looks a bit like a cut down A3, so I just shaved off a half point and called my "A2.5." It's kinda neat having a gun nobody else on the block has, even if it is a little plain, and especially since I got to set it up the way I wanted the rifle to be. Like George Peppard use to say on "The A Team" I love it when a plan comes together.
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Baltimore in the hot seat now!!!!!
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Yeah I know. That's why I'm goin' back to guns.