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Music City Tactical Shooters has a 3 Gun match next weekend in Dickson. I've been out there as a visitor twice and was welcomed with open arms. Go to Music City Tactical Shooters or look in the competition forum here for info.
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Everyone is assuming that the boys are telling the truth about him brandishing the loaded gun at them. Maybe that's the way it happened but maybe not. I'm not saying he's innocent because obviously he overreacted or there probably wouldn't be charges, but as a father walking in on this, who wouldn't.
I think the fact that the reporter even mentioned that investigators reported he was a HCP holder speaks volumes about the media and law enforcement's thoughts about those who carry.
As far as the guy not raising his daughter right, how many of us would have done the same thing as teenagers if given the chance even tho most of us had caring parents. You can't blame him for kids experimenting unless you expect him to keep her locked in a cage 24/7. I know I did plenty of crap that my parents would have flown off the handle over.
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From the vid that looks pretty awesome - shooting the undead around walls and thru windows.I'm sure my son will love it too. He just shot his first match this past weekend and he hasn't stopped talking about it. Not sure what the kids at school will say when he tells them he's goin to shoot zombies.
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he facility in Smyrna was great til they sold it. Being 5 min from my house helped too. :-)
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The RK shows are always better - twice as many vendors = better variety, no parking fee and $1 off coupon on their web site.Just know that either there is no AC in the building or it just doesn't work so it gets warm rather quickly. Also, be prepared for a long line to get in especially since they haven't had one in Murfreesboro since June.RK admission is also good for both days. Goodman is $8 a day!
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What bothers me is the fact that you still must undergo the background check with a HCP as well. Seems like the state would recognize that if you've passed the background check to get the license or permit that that should be enough - some states do allow you to forgo it with a HCP.
It can't be a money maker for them even at $10 a pop but seems like it could surely be a way for them to cut expenses.
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How well does it clean overall - better than brush and mop?
Also, I'm guessing it's safe for the whole gun (minus any aluminum as stated above) but doesn't that leave water down in the hard to reach areas like the trigger, striker/firing pin mechanisms and rifling which would have to air dry and be susceptible to rust?
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You know your wife won't let you buy another gun.
Not yet. But planning for when I finally receive my C&R.
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Just got my first 91/30 this weekend and was able to get both bands off with the insistence of the bolt tool. I was just careful not to scratch the stock with it. They came off clean enough, but when I put the larger one back on it did scuff the stock a bit. Basically it just took some of the lacquer off. A little Old English and you can hardly see it.
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How long did it take for you to get your license? They recieved my application on Fri and cashed the check today. Hopefully that's a good sign for a quick turn around.
edit - I just saw your other thread saying that it took 46 days. That's an eternity when you're just sittin and waitin.
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Aim posted today they have Hex Mosins. Ordered one for myself. I also ordered one last month when they posted them for sale. If you want one you better be quick. Last month they sold out in about 2 days.
What are their Hex's like? Are they 5 line? What year/arsenal did you get last last month?
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Spectacular pic!
Hope you don't mind if I use that for my desktop.
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I just got the chance to shoot my uncle's 32 year old Remington 700 30-06 last weekend and that is a sweet weapon. It packs a decent but very managable punch, but esp for elk, accuracy is essential and this one is definitely a tack driver.
If that's the model you got you have a great gun. Especially since it was given to you by your uncle.
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"I would feel even more threatened if I knew there were people who were permitted to carry guns," said park visitor Deborah Corbin.
Maybe this is a great opportunity! We should create parks for Liberals that are No-Gun zones and parks for those who don't feel threatened by guns that allow carry. Can't wait to find out which one is safer!
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Has anyone spoken with a manager at any of the area BWWs? Obviously they know their posting does not meet the legal specs which tells me that they only posted to keep the sheeple happy since they would make a much bigger stink than permit holders. I'd almost be willing to bet that they don't really care if you do carry there as long as it's not visible. If I knew that was the case I'd feel completely comfortable carrying there.
Our family really enjoys going there and the last time I went was right after I received my permit and I carried anyway. I feel bad about it now since it was not the best message for my kids to see me disregard the sign. If/when I do go again I'll try to speak with a manager to get their opinion and corporate's stance.
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I like to use mine when I'm carded for beer in restaurants. Especially in restaurants that have a "NO GUNS" sign posted.
Never thought of this but that's a great idea! Of course, the natural next question is whether you're "packin", but a great way to get the message out there that they should support law abiding permit holders instead of alienating us.
This is my new protocol - should I break down and patronize a place that posts.
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I was really glad to read how this all played out. Being how sketchy parts of Memphis are, showing my ID to prove I can legally carry, means someone will be asked also who DOESN'T have their HCP and they could face criminal actions.
+1 Not only is it a great chance to display how polite and responsible permit holders tend to be, but it would definitely make me feel more secure knowing that someone carrying without a permit would be busted. Could possibly be some thug who saw you carrying one night and decided that "hey, nobody hassled him so I'll wear one in the store and no one will notice till I point it at the clerk." If he instead sees you questioned by a polite security guard, chances are he knows you are a good guy and he best move on if he considers pulling a stunt like that.
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I'm sure we won't see signs on many restaurants or 'bars' anytime soon that says "We qualify for 'Guns in Bars' because we are open for meals 5 days a week".
So I guess the quick and dirty way to determine which establishments are included are to look at their hours posted outside to make sure they are open at least 5 days a week. Also, it's my understanding that to qualify for a liquor license they must serve food which takes care of the meals. This would neccesarily exclude venues that host 'concerts' and other entertainment that are only open on nights where something is scheduled.
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Maybe this has been thoroughly addressed in another thread that I have simply missed, but seeing the actual verbiage of the new statute reminds me of how ambiguous it is.
"and the serving of such meals shall be the principal business conducted."
Does that specifically rule out "bars" which must serve food to be issued a liquor license where it is quite obvious that that is not their "principal business conducted" and that they may not always serve at least 1 official meal per day 5 days a week?
The media was quite deliberate in calling this bill "Guns in bars", however, that is not the main focus of the law even though it does apply there.
So, the questions to any law abiding carry permit holder are:
Is it legal to carry into a bar or club where live entertainment and alcohol are the primary products?
If a bar that is mainly open during the evenings (not for meals) or a club that is only open on nights when live entertainment is scheduled does not post against carrying, does this new law really make it perfectly legal to enter these businesses armed?
I'd rather not be the gineau pig, but I would really appreciate the opportunity to at least be armed on my way to/from such places, especially at night.
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What about a business's liability if they choose to post and something happens on the way to their place and you were disarmed simply because you cannot carry 'into' their establishment? If they 'choose' to not allow you to protect yourself inside their business then they also 'choose' to disarm you on your trip from your vehicle to their building, whether or not it is on their property, and should likewise be held liable for that.
Now, I'm not saying 100% that restaurants choosing to post should be held responsible for 100% of the incidents that occur - just because you are armed is no guarantee that you will be able to avoid or neutralize the situation. But if they can be held liable for what occurs inside their building they should also be held liable for what happens in transit to their building.
Which brings up another beef I have with banning HCP holders from carrying in certain places. We are very much in need of legislation that will allow us to protect ourselves and our families while we are walking to and from such places. I thought about this a few weeks ago when walking about a mile from my car to the ballpark in Cincinnati to see a ball game. I can carry in my car and I can legally carry on the street, but I cannot carry into the ball park, both because they serve alcohol and they have chosen to post - everywhere. Therefore I was necessarily disarmed between my car and the ball park.
While Cincinnati may not be Detriot or DC, it's still not safe. My thoughts are that the city should be held liable for anything that should happen to me since the local government has chosen not to give us any options.
I believe there needs to be legal accomodations for HCP holders to be able to disable or unload our weapons upon entering such places so as not to infringe on our rights outside of them. I realize it is not feasible to have someone at the door check to make sure that I have disabled my gun and that other people will not feel safe seeing me do so, but we need some type of legislation to account for this scenario which happens everywhere that is either posted or otherwise banned.
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We do have a database here although I'm not sure if folks find it easy to use.
For some reason no one posts here. Of course it's good to post inside of a forum thread but once the thread goes cold nobody sees it any longer.
We really need to get an accurate extensive list going so we know where we cannot spend our money before heading out. Plus, assuming they care enough to even look, it gives restaurant owners a place to "see their name in lights".
I suggest everyone post when they return home after noticing a posted restaurant or business.
Also, I think we need to split this list out into businesses, restaurants, restaurants that serve alcohol, parks, as well as by major city or part of the state, etc.
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linky no worky
Yeah, something about the TFA site.
Anyway, here's the content of that post:
Here is a link to the state's statistics on carry permits showing the number of issued, suspended, revoked and denied permits by month for the calendar year. The appendix in the back even shows totals through the first quarter of 2009. Unfortunately, those who oppose our rights don't like to be confused with the facts.
http://www.state.tn.us/safety/stats/DL_Handgun/Handgun/HandgunReport2008Full.pdf
Also, here is a link to the Crime in Tennessee 2008 report
If you look at these numbers, there were a total of exactly 607 permits suspended or revoked in 2008 and there was a total of 218,004 permit holders on 1/1/2009. Therefore, 0.278% of permits were at least suspended for crime or other reasons last year. As suspensions can be temporary, the number of permits revoked was 263 which is 0.1206% of the total number of permits at the end of the year, that's less than 1/8 of 1%.
All the while, there were 47,315 arrests for Domestic Violence, 236 for Stalking, 29,387 for DUI plus 2,843 for Weapon Law Violations in the state during the same time period. With an estimated population of 6,214,888, that means that at least 1.28% of the total population committed crimes that would result in revokation of a permit. And that is a very conservative estimate as it does not take into account all of the offenses that would disqualify someone for a permit which is not explicitly listed. If you took into account every crime that qualifies, I'm sure that percentage would at least close to double. Namely, from the Handgun Carry Permit Qualifications and Requirements website (http://www.tennessee.gov/safety/handgun/qualifications.htm):
- Applicants shall not have been convicted of any felony offense punishable for a term exceeding one (1) year;
- Applicants shall not currently be under indictment or information for any criminal offense punishable by a term exceeding one (1) year;
- Shall not be currently the subject of any order of protection;
- Shall not be a fugitive from justice;
- Shall not be an unlawful user of or addicted to alcohol or any controlled substance and the applicant has not been a patient in a rehabilitation program or hospitalized for alcohol or controlled substance abuse or addiction within ten (10) years from the date of application;
- The applicant has not been convicted of the offense of driving under the influence of an intoxicant in this or any other State two (2) or more times within ten (10) years from the date of application and that none of such convictions has occurred within five (5) years from the date of application or renewal.
- Shall not have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence as defined in 18 U.S.C.A. 921 (33);
- Shall not have been convicted of the offense of stalking
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His numbers are a bit skewed but presumably he means 99% of carry permit holders. He needs to revise that to 99.75% of carry permit holders. Only about .25% of carry permit holders commit crimes and I've never seen even one report of a carry permit holder carrying out vigilante justice. Someone intent on vigilante justice isn't going to care about a carry permit, isn't going to care if it's legal to carry in a bar, and if they have any intelligence isn't going to carry out their vigilantism in a place like a bar. Much like any other criminal they are intent on doing what they want regardless of the laws in place.
Here is a link to a post I created on the TFA forums which reports on the state's 2008 statistics for HCPs and crime stating that in 2008 only 0.1206% of permits where revoked last year.
http://www.*********.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2394
"I'm not worried about the 99 percent of gun owners who are permit holders. I'm worried about the 1 or 2 percent of would-be ‘Dirty Harrys' who are going to carry out their attempts at vigilantly justice in our cities and environments," Randy Rayburn told NewsChannel 5.The type of people that say things like this are trying, and succeeding, in getting the public to fear and distrust anyone who own guns and especially any one who would carry a weapon for defense purposes.
Of course, the media will never report that today a responsible gun owner with a Handgun Carry Permit went quietly about his business, went out to lunch, came home to dinner with his family and cleaned his gun that evening - all without incident.
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That was the JUNE show dates. Their website doesn't list another show at Smyrna until AUGUST 22-23.
You're right. I looked at it wrong. Thanks for catching it.
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Just received my C&R yesterday - 4 1/2 weeks after sending in the application.