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Agreed. The RK shows in Smyrna are twice as large with better vendors and better deals, especially for handguns. There is one coming up July 27/28. It's $10 but if you go to www.rkshows.com you can print off a $1 off coupon. If you have trouble finding it, take I-24 to exit 70, turn north and take the first left at Publix. It will be about 3/4 mile on the left. If you make it to the next stop light at Old Nashville you just missed it, look over your left shoulder behind Walgreens.

Typical liberal opinion that mere citizens cannot be trusted to be responsible for their own actions. Our actions must be legislated for us because they obviously know what is best for us. I know I feel better that someone is watching out for me and keeps me from having to even think about making any decisions for myself. Seems to me that the constitution is pretty clear on this already. Actually, if you read it literally, any laws against carrying in restaurants and parks are themselves unconstitutional. Essentially, according to Article 1, Declaration of Rights, Section 26 we have the 'right', not priviledge, to carry anywhere and can only be limited where it could increase and not prevent crime - which is pretty much nowhere. Notice the "by law," statement which means that a judge cannot overrule the laws, meaning they cannot overturn it from the bench; assuming they stay within the limits of their job description of upholding the law, not writing it. The pacifist liberal's agenda is always to take the power away from the people and give it to the BGs because the BGs are not really bad, they're just "misunderstood" and simply need our love and sympathy. In my opinion the liberals can go live the the "misunderstood" BGs and let us keep our guns to protect ourselves from both of them!

I believe the law is allowing for the situation where a BG retreats or otherwise withdraws his threat and that the shooter is no longer in imminent danger. You can no longer claim self defense yourself if the threat has ceased and it may indeed be up to the court's decision as to whether the BG can claim self defense, regardless of the fact that he was headed out the door with the money. He may actually be allowed to do so if the court decides that his illegal activity of threatening you or others with bodily harm or death had ceased when you pulled the trigger. At this point he is no longer a threat and you were the aggressor. In this scenario, expect to lose your right to carry and spend some time in jail for, at the very least, aggravated assault and battery, or at worse whatever homocide charge your attorney can negotiate. You may be lucky, however, as the law does state that the offender or someone on his behalf will not be able to bring a civil suit against you as that is not allowed when the assault occured while they were committing a crime. I'm not trying to reopen this for further heated discussion but I did not see this scenario spelled out and this is my interpretation of the law.

According to the TFA (Tennessee Firearms Association) forums, there is going to be a 2 hour radio show tomorrow from 11:00 am - 1:00 pm on WAMB (AM1200) with radio host Bob Pope and guests Sen. Doug Jackson, Sen. Jim Tracy, Rep. Ben West, Nicole Goeser, and John Harris to discuss the restaurant carry issue. Also, on July 7, John Harris, an attorney associated with TFA will be a guest on Newschannel5+ Openline on Comcast channel 50 from 7pm - 8pm to discuss the guns in parks law.

From your avatar it looks like it is easily adjustable for depth and cant. How adjustable is it and how easy/practical is it to change over for OWB, esp since it only uses the clips/loops instead of slots? I'm torn between the Bullard and the Bluegrass although the Bluegrass is easily adjustable and cheaper but I much prefer the look of all-leather.

I emailed Bluegrass the other day about fitting a PT145 and they said they just got some Millenium shells in. Not sure if it will fit all models as I've seen other sites list the PT145 together with the 24/7 models and then the PT111 and PT140 together. I also have a Kydex holster custom fit for my XD9 sub compact and the Taurus fits in it albiet a little tight and it doesn't quite 'snap' in as well but it works none the less. They have a 30 day trial period so you don't really have anything to lose.

I looked for a notice about purchasing a TGO cap but didn't find anything. If/when these are available, put me down for 1. I'm also in on the 14th (if my tix fall thru for the All-Star game), but I'm not 100% sure about advertising it. It seems like asking for trouble. I can see 100's of anti-gunner Obama groupies showing up to make a spectacle and then we all know how the media would spin that. However, as for inviting some legislators who voted with us, I think it would be a great gesture to show we support them. We should buy them dinner and give them a cap.

Here is a link to the bill. Tennessee General Assembly Legislation It's pretty difficult to figure out the final wording but if you follow through the ammendments you can put it together. What's pretty interesting is that House ammendment 2 requires at least 1 shooting range to be constructed within each state park. See Senate ammendment 2 Section 1-I and 1-J for a list of areas that are included. Notice the language "or other similar public place". Although ammendment 3 removes "wildlife management area". All state and federal land is legal as of the signing of the bill. Local parks take effect September 1 to allow local governments time to opt-out.

:doh:WOW! Guess I should have called earlier. I was fingerprinted on 3-3-09 and didn't get my permit until 6-2. I waited to call until about mid May.

Got my HCP 13 weeks after fingerprinting. My uncle got his a few days earlier and we completed our applications the same week. We both called after 11 weeks and were told that they were due to be issued the next week. I would say that if you are waiting for yours, call after about 4-6 weeks. I've read through this thread that calling may seem to prompt them to bring your app to their attention and 'may' get it issued quicker. Obviously no guarantees but it can't hurt unless you pester them about it. Here is the link for renewals that includes the phone # Handgun Carry Permit Forms. It sounds like classes are still full and you will probably have to schedule a month out or so and I'm sure that is backing up the processing of the applications. I think that says a lot about how Tennesseans feel about their Second Ammendment rights and I don't see how our legislators can ignore that - regardless of the crap that most media (not to mention our governor and the most enlighted police chief Serpas in Nashville) tries to feed the public about the evils of handguns and how those who carry should be feared. If you are considering getting your permit or know someone who is, consider going ahead and signing up for a class and get your application completed. I don't want to propose that we get a bunch of citizens carrying handguns that are not qualified, but if you are considering it, go ahead and start the process. Then while you are waiting, you should have plenty of time to research the type of weapon you are most comfortable with and get some experience by going to the range with friends and trying out different guns. Having a permit to carry does not obligate you to do so but exercising your Second Ammendment rights is always a good thing, it gives us a lot of clout with our legislators and may even help deter some BGs.

The main difference I think is the trigger. Typically a hammer is going to have a stronger spring to work against. The double action trigger pull will be heavier and longer plus the trigger is farther forward in the guard. Then each subsequent shot will be a shorter lighter pull because the hammer has already been cocked by the slide. Of course this is for DA/SA pistols. Double Action Only will have the longer, heavier pull for each shot. It's been my experience that the trigger with a striker has a springier feel to it and not nearly as sharp of a break. A lot of striker fired weapons are like a single action revolver - you have to cock it for each shot by working the slide, however, some like the Taurus Millenium Pro series are a true DAO that allow you to fire the gun without working the slide allowing you a second attempt at a round that does not fire the first time. Go out and try both at the range to see what you like. Pulling the trigger at the counter won't tell you much, especially if you've never experienced it with a live round.