[H&K USP .45]

Just a heads up, as long as you purchase new from a dealer, all USP and HK45/P30 series pistols are eligible for a $200 rebate from HK.

 

Yep, until 31 Dec; which is a really good deal.

 

OP, you should also check out the HK45 and HK45 Compact. 

 

As far as full size or compact in either the USP or HK45, I would say that would depend on the weapon's primary purpose. 

If it is concealed carry, get the compact; if its use is primary home defense and/or range use, go with the full size. 

[Harris Teeter tells the Xanax mommies to pound sand]

Who is Harris Teeter? Is this his company here?

https://teetertv.com/index.php

 

That thing would be cool to have in an IDPA stage!

[Handgun Permit was denied.]

The classroom, testing, and range requirements allows the TN HCP to be recognized by more states. 

[MTSC IDPA]

Looks like they will have matches the 4th Sunday of the month. Click on "events"

 

http://www.idpa.com/clubprofile/1720

 

I hope they get a sanctioned match put together. 

[HK VP9 - might have to give this striker fired thing another try]

Do tell?

 

I pre-ordered it through one of the HK dealers on the HK forum 2 months ago. He is maxed out now, no longer taking orders. 

It was $550 shipped, the other $37.50 was transfer fee and TICS.

 

I think the price on these will settle around $500 to 550 after the initial rush on them is over.

[HK VP9 - might have to give this striker fired thing another try]

I don't hate it or care. I don't look at 2 different hammers and not like one. Guns to me are tools, I get the best one I can for the least amount of money. HK are good weapons, but they have failed tests that Glock passed. I just don't see the point in paying more for a weapon that performs similarly. 

 

Any handgun from any major manufacturer is fine and will get the job done. They are all accurate enough and reasonably reliable. 

 

Gotta be careful not to fall into the greed and consumerism trap that many people in this country have. 

 

If you don't realize  what the VP9 offers over a Glock, then I won't be able to enlighten you.

 

But I can help you with the cost aspect, because the VP9 is actually cheaper than a Glock. 

I got my VP9 for $587.50 out the door, that included the TICS fee as well. 

So by the time you replace the barrel, slide release, mag release, put a butt plug in it, and change the sights on a Glock, you will be out well over $587.

And we haven't even got to the trigger yet. 

 

Additionally, even with all of the above modifications to a Glock, it still will not be the equal of the VP9; however it will cost more than a VP9.

[HK VP9 - might have to give this striker fired thing another try]

FYI, an HK dealer on the HK forum is taking pre-orders for $550.00 shipped. 

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/gmp-parts-company/201217-wts-heckler-koch-vp9-starting-price-550-00-free-shipping.html

 

So it will be cheaper than a Glock, that is factoring in the additional cost needed to get a Glock up to speed (trigger, extractor, mag release, butt plug, etc).

[HK VP9 - might have to give this striker fired thing another try]

This pistol looks very promising. The internet has been abuzz about this pistol since the info was released yesterday. I think I will give one a try.

 

BTW, sell your Glocks now boys and girls, while you still can get something for them.  :pleased:

[All matches cancelled rumor]

The tri-states has been cancelled due to the delays from the range rebuilding activity at MSSA.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk

 

Bummer, I was really looking forward to that one.

[Need IDPA Classifier]

_{Thanks for the info Spiffy and Hognut.}

 

_{The 4th Saturday of April is when the NRA Convention in Indy happens.}

_{So that leaves ORSA or Nashville Armory.}

 

 

_{What date is David doing the Classifier at Nashville Armory?}

[Opinions on H&K p30]

It is one of the best pistols on the market.

Guns and Leather in Greenbrier has a great selection of P30's and P30L's.

[Need IDPA Classifier]

Like an idiot, I missed the recent classifiers at MCTS and Gallatin Gun Club.

 

Anyone know of an IDPA classifier in middle TN (or within a 2 hour drive of middle TN) within the next 2 months?

 

Thanks

[Oregon Senate Antigunners' Worst Headache]

Good stuff, thanks for sharing.

[Daniel Defense ad is a "no-go" for Super Bowl]

Just one of the many reasons I don't watch the games of the National Felon League. 

[Extension of Jobless benefits passes in opposition to Republicans]

Who sez 99 weeks?

 

All but three states max out at 63 weeks, three go to 73. And that's with all state plus federal EUC and EB bennies combined (state bennies are almost all only 26 weeks).

 

Reason that totals vary in different states is because not everyone in all states gets the full duration of EUC, btw.

 

- OS

 

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/99-weeks-when-unemployment-benefits-run-out/

[Extension of Jobless benefits passes in opposition to Republicans]

You can't be on unemployment "for years". A year and 3 months is max from any state, and that's only 2 or 3, and that includes the federal extension under debate here. Then in most states you have to have worked x amount of time in last 4 or 5 quarters or have paid x amount into the fund from wages.

 

Years ago, you could work 6 months and be on unemployment for six months year after year, and a lot of seasonal workers did just that, but that got zapped years ago.

 

- OS

 

99 weeks is nearly two years. 

[Extension of Jobless benefits passes in opposition to Republicans]

So their first priority is to extend "unemployment" for people who have been on it for years.......but no concern or mention of the cuts to military retirees pay.

Wonderful. 

[M&P or Glock]

Put the LEM trigger in your USP; that will be the ticket. 

[Centennial Park]

Go to Bicentennial Park, it is a state park so you are good to carry there. It is over by the Capital and it is pretty nice.

[IDPA Bug Match on Sept. 28th at Green River Gun Club, Bowling Green KY.]

Hats off to the Green River crew, your bug matches are fun and interesting for everyone. Its good to get out of your comfort zone and
shoot what you carry or if you want to try out a different gun you don't normally shoot in completion. Dan as for having another tactical rifle match before the end of the year like we discussed, I for one would like to see that happen if possible.

 

That makes 3 of us! We NEED another rifle match, please! I would be happy to help if need be.

[Victory in Colorado]

I'm really happy to see that Morse guy go. He is the one who said gun owners are a "sickness in our souls" on the Colorado Senate floor.

Then he tried to sue to have an ad of him saying that blocked during the run up to the recall election.

 

I love how the liberal media is downplaying this victory. However, they do concede it was a litmus test for all gun control.

One of the ousted Senators, Giron, even said, “For Mayors Against Illegal Guns, if they lose even one of these seats, they might as well fold it up. And they understand that.”

[Victory in Colorado]

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_24066168/colorado-senate-president-john-morse-recalled-angela-giron

 

Both the dems that did not want to hear from their people and pushed through stupid gun control were kicked out of office! Way to go Colorado and the NRA!!!

 

This was a huge blow for bloomberg.

 

I was watching the polls on the Denver Post site and jumped for joy when it was done!

 

Gotta love their whining editorial.

 

http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_24064796/time-move-past-colorado-recall-elections

[CURRENT Production LWRC Opinions]

My LWRC has been flawless. As mentioned above, spares are a good idea regardless of the platform.
LWRC has all the spare parts you want available on their web store.
The only thing proprietary on the LWRC is the piston system and bolt carrier. The piston system is easy to disassemble and very durable.

Also, the SPR’s that are being released now have fully ambidextrous lowers.

[Was I wrong? Would I have been wronger? Uh... more wrong...]

Let me try to say THIS as tactfully as I can; have you read any of the other replies?? Did you even comprehend the question as I stated it to begin with??
 
NOWHERE did I pull a redneck, "Yeah, I was gonna draw down on that dum sumbitch, but I figgered I'd just stand thar and see how close he could git afore I gunned him down."
 
You, sir, need to (actually) READ the original post, understand it, and then make an intelligent reply.
 
I know that a vehicle CAN be used as a deadly weapon. Had it been used in that way, I could have drawn. It was not, I did not, and I simply asked for clarification as to if I was correct or incorrect in waving traffic aside, and if threatened, would that have been grounds to present.

If a weapon is “presented” it is to use deadly force, and nothing less.

It was my understanding that you were asking if it was wrong or right to use deadly force (“Yes, I was carrying. If I had presented it, would that have been more wrong?”) against the driver of a vehicle coming down a road. Is this not correct? Please clarify if not.

Yes, a vehicle can be a deadly weapon, but using deadly force against a vehicle on a major road because that vehicle didn’t move over into the other lane is going to be a hard sell. Should have the driver moved over? Of course they should, if they are able. But not doing so, in my opinion, does not warrant deadly force if you are standing in a major thoroughfare.

You state “He was HEADING for me.” I assume you were in the road? Then of course he would be heading for you. By this logic, what if a person was to stand in a lane on the interstate? You would have vehicles “heading” strait for you. Would it justifiable deadly force to shoot at vehicles if they didn’t move into the other lane?

Yes, I read the other replies; most said it would be wrong to draw your weapon, and one mentioned it would be aggravated assault.

[Was I wrong? Would I have been wronger? Uh... more wrong...]

I will offer my opinion of this situation, since you asked, as tactfully as I can.

Let me see if I understand this correctly-
you were standing on or near a major road and when a vehicle came down this road, you felt like you may need to draw your weapon and shoot and kill the driver of said vehicle?

With all due respect, I think you need to reevaluate your carrying of a firearm for defense.
Or at the very least, reeducate yourself on the laws regarding the use of deadly force.