Fallguy

Well it really wasn't a bill or and executive order. It was simply a rule change by the DOI. To change it, they would have to go through the rule change process again, which takes a little while. I believe the main basis of the lawsuit is that they didn't completely follow all the parts of the process.

Who really knows....lol

I'll let you know how I feel after the election for Speaker of the House Tuesday.....

I'm with you in that nothing in that or what I have heard says an injunction has been granted. But the DOI itself could decided to hold of on implementing the rule until the lawsuit is settled....I guess. But I've not found anything to that effect either. So who really knows (including rangers) what will be legal tomorrow and what will they do if they find out you are armed.

From all I've heard on other internet forums in from those TX, Yes...they will charge you even for printing. It's not brandishing, TX law simply says it is against the law if you intentionally fail to conceal the handgun. Also from opencarry.org's TX page "Texas is not a traditional open carry state. They also do not allow open carry, or even printing, by those who have a concealed carry permit."

But you haven't really proved it one way or the other till the jury rules....right? I think what he meant is like if you took training from a trainer for type/brand A baton, but you actually had type/brand B baton. Even if types A and B were practically the same thing... A DA wanting to push the issue might convince a jury that you didn't meat the training requirement.

Maybe not...if there hasn't been an incident.

I am going to so leave that alone.......

I can agree with that as well...

I can completely agree with that.

WOW man...I'm really not sure what to say. I need to loose in the neighborhood of 175lbs myself...I have been considering the surgery, but just not really wanting to right now. Anyway.....I have got some thinking to do... None of my business....but how, if any, have you modified alcohol intake...if there was any even that is.

Others with more legal expertise may can clarify what I'm saying better. But there are two kinds of possession "actual" and "constructive" (or something like that) If the gun is in the glove box, it isn't in anyone's actual possession, but it constructively could be in anyones or at least the driver and front seat passengers possession. If in your case the front seat passenger was a felon or someone else that shouldn't be in possession of a firearm it might not be good for them. But I don't think as a general rule LEOs are looking to start charging everyone in the car with possession if driver has a permit. But why wouldn't you keep it on your person or at least in closer reach to you?

That is part of the problem when you have posters from several states with different laws. In some states, what the OP did may very well have been illegal, in some it isn't at all.

I think what he may have be talking about is... Trooper 1 pulls you over...he ask you to unload your weapon and hand it to him. As you are handling your weapon and/or handing over, Trooper 2 who heard the stop on the radio, pulls up and sees you with a weapon out in the proximity of Trooper 1. Trooper 2 may see that as a threat (not knowing the situation) and fire to protect Trooper 1. I don't think he said this has happened, just that it could. I don't know anything about the second part....

Are you able to use it on 3G? I ask because I am thinking of anIPhone or other data phone, but 3G is not available where I am and I just wondered how good "regular" web surfing was in non-3G areas.

Good deal, I travel I-40 to Little Rock and then I-30 to Hot Springs on a semi-regular basis myself.

FWIW Here is the e-mail I got back...

I get what you are saying. In general a state or local officer couldn't prosocute a violation of federal law on federal property, right? As far as carry on the NTP. It is a national park, right. The rule change allows for carry in National Parks in states that your permit allows you to carry in right. A TN HCP is valid in TN, AL and MS, right, So as long as the Brady Bunch doesn't win their lawsuit or get a judge to prevent the rule change from going into effect until the lawsuit is settled, we should be ok.

Here is the response I got. Guess that is from Brady Bunch's dealings. http://www.bradycenter.org/xshare/pdf/kempthorne-complaint.pdf

That is incorrect. The orginal wording of the rule change did have language that said it would follow similar laws of the state on parks. But the final wording had that removed. However they did word it where each state could pass laws to prevent carry in national parks within that state.

In NATIONAL parks. Under TN law state and local parks are still off limits.

Welcome

See this thread.

The roadway itself of the Natchez Trace Parkway is a National Park. So prior to the rule change you could NOT legally carry a loaded firearm while traveling on the parkway. I confirmed this last year directly with the rangers office of the parkway. But when the new rule goes into effect on the 9th as long as you have a permit that is valid in TN, AL and MS you should be able to carry the whole length of it. I have just sent an e-mail to the same ranger asking him to confirm this.