EwokPoacher

Why waste my time? What have you or 6.8 brought to this debate to prove YOUR side? The only links I've seen posted from the skeptics are from the conservative Huffington Post equivalent and paid schill Monckton (Monckton's errors - July 2008). It's like clsutton21 said "Facts that prove global warming is real are the fake facts. Facts the prove global warming isn't real are the real facts." You guys have your minds made up, and apparently we have ours. I might as well be debating carry laws on some lib forum, or the bible with an atheist.

dead horse is beat

Hey now. I'm trying to look at all the facts, and the problem is, the facts I've seen don't lean your direction. Don't blame me for that. I don't think anyone can claim the "right" view on this issue.

So you're saying don't trust NASA, who has been studying weather patterns and climate for years, all because of Al Gore, gov't grants, and the media... Please, don't confuse my belief that global warming exists with agreeing in how our politicians choose to handle it.

That's where we're in disagreement. My opinion is it's real, and that's where I'll leave it. To me, our two party system is the political/economic con game. No worries.

ummm, no. Using Mockton as a source is like using Olberman, Limbaugh, or Beck as an unbiased political analyst. However, I did find a interesting discussion on global warming, and what we can do. It's rather long (I'm sure a lot of people will punch out), but basically removes the Gore scare tactics, and presents some ideas of what might ought to be done instead.

uh, where exactly are you getting this info? NASA says differently - NASA - Satellites Show Arctic Literally on Thin Ice

In the long term, like from the formation of the planet, who really knows? Is it CO2 related, f' if I know. I'm just an average joe. But doesn't it disturb you that since the late 1800's that the average temp has risen? Or do you just not buy into NASA's study? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to take from the denialist point of view. Accept that the earth is just in a cycle, and start buying land in Alaska for my descendants, 'cause Anchorage is gonna be the new Cabo for a few millennia? Or "Don't worry, next year it's gonna start cooling down", and look to buy land near the equator, 'cause we've just been living in the uptick? I need answers, I got land to purchase!

Good plan.

Yes, Derringer guy is the problem. He could have let dude have the last word instead of brandishing.

+1 just think if the night had ended differently with your buddy wounded or dead, and you or your friend shooting derringer guy... all because of the lack of civility in the first part by all parties involved. Derringer guy was obviously scared of the three of you, and thinking because he had a gun gave him misguided courage. Sounds like he didn't want to hurt anyone, but wanted to show he had the upper hand (which is ignorant, everyone could be carrying). Otherwise, your billy-badass friend would have had a hole in him. No wonder the Libs want to take our guns. Good choice by you to not provoke the situation any further, and I hope you don't find yourself in a position like this ever again.

lol, I think there's a lot of M-16's that show up out there. I was out there yesterday diagnosing a jamming rifle, and the guy next to me had one.

He usually tells people to limit it to 3~5 round bursts.

Thanks guys. I doubt I'll be able to make it back to CHMR this weekend, but I'll catch you there later.

Met BigWakes while out at CHMR this weekend, and he apprised me of TGO, so I figured I'd join. Usually out there once or twice a month sporting a few evil black rifles of some sort.