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Roughly 8% of the people in TN have a permit. One could estimate that less than half of those actually carry regularly. One could further estimate that a significant percentage of those who carry regularly would be running the other way as fast as possible, if that option is available. So in a crowd of 100 people, there might be 1 other person who would engage. The odds of getting shot by another "good Samaritan" are pretty low.
I certainly see your point, and trust me, none of this keeps me up at night haha. Simply a friendly discussion wondering for other people's thoughts.
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Gun fghts happen very fast + most people are too consumed with their phones to notice something is happening + very few people actually carry a gun = not a concern of getting shot.
Mass shooting / active shooter(s) tactics require you to seek cover and escape the situation. Let the team of good guys take the bad guy out. The exception is when the active shooter walks in your room and starts killing people. That is the point in time when you have positively ID'd the shooter and are in a position to fight.
You see, that's the problem at hand. People who are carrying a gun should not be consumed with their phone, they should be focused on their surroundings for this very issue.
Ex. I'm walking down the road and carrying while on my phone. I hear a shot go off, how am I going to know if someone was defending themselves or killing a random person.
I think awareness is a huge issue that people don't necessarily think about.
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You avoid this situation by minding your own. You and yours.
Sound selfish? Ohh well. My gun's for me and my wife. Everyone else gets a 911 call as I'm redlining the engine in the opposite direction.
As with everything in life, that's not set in stone and decisions will be made on a case by case basis as they present themselves. Just a general rule of thumb.
Am I misunderstanding or am I hearing you say that you aren't one to protect a third party?
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Don't have to go there. You have many options.
Gosh darn it, I am gonna go ahead and order all of those. You know, while I am at it, I will probably go ahead and forget the idea of concealing anymore. I need people to know that I mean serious business.
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Hopefully this does not get the armchair commander forum lawyers angry lol. (I love you guys).
In a situation like that I am going to think there will not be others around. If I see shots being exchange I am hauling ass and diving for cover - not going to risk myself getting sent to jail because I wanted to get a "kill assist" - aint no video game!
However, if it was a mass shooting or terror attack and a bunch of dudes with CCWs are running around, with adrenaline pumping and never been in a firefight before, then I see that happening. No idea how to prevent it.
Maybe wear a PT belt and a CCW badge sash and tape some AR500 plates to your back
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Lol, I can't help but laugh. Instead of yelling "Police, drop your weapon." I was thinking about a new catch phrase like: "Handgun Carry Permit Holder protected under the 2nd amendment, drop your weapon." That way, there is no question whether or not I'm the threat to other people around... Sarcasm...
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I imagine this has been brought up before, but I haven't ran across it yet so maybe it will be fun to resurrect. Too often I find myself wondering, what if I pull out my firearm to defend myself and someone else ("another Good Samaritan") shoots me not fully knowing the situation. How exactly do you avoid a situation like this? I imagine that at some point this has happened before. Thoughts?
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Or conversely - just kill em.
Legally.
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If you can legally kill your own family members, more power to you haha.
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Hey, my name is Spence from clarksville, TN. I've been into guns since I came from the womb. I compete in IDPA and spend alot of time at Montgomery county shooting complex. I got more guns than I wish to list, but I'll share a few of my favorite.
Colt AR-15 9mm SBR with a tirant (super fun gun)
Glock 19 (placed 2nd in IL IDPA state championship marksman ssp)
Luger P-08
I came here interested in joining a gun forum and actual found someone that use to work in a building next door to me. So I figure why not.
Glock 19: Thumbs UP: Welcome!
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My problem ain't the neighbors I'm afraid. It's certain family members on the wife's side. I'm close to kick'n ass and take'n names. Why some people want to act like assholes all the time is beyond be.
Sounds like a great opportunity to be a witness and be the bigger person! Kill em with kindness my friend.
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Actually, I have yet to get a bow kill this year, so until that happens, I'll be bow hunting [emoji16]
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Good ole Marlin 30-30 lever action.
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Elvis has left the building.
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The 26 is much like a stubby 19 - I think half inch off the slide and an inch or so off the bottom.
The 43 is much like a flat 26, I have a 32 which is the same size as a 19 and both the 26 and 43 feel great. My pinky falls off the end but with a Glock +2 on the 26 and a Glock +0 on the 43 it fits my whole hand.
The 43 is not really that snappy - hell the 26 feels stiffer sometimes I do not know why.
You will be satisfied with both, you will lose ammo capacity but the 43 just melts away on your body.
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Appreciate it sir!
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Close to a month ago I almost pulled my gun over a possible threat.
We were parked in a restaurant parking lot after dark meeting someone to buy something. A lady and a man pulled up next to us in a truck. The guy was in the passenger seat and opened the door right into our SUV. Then he looked at me with a confused look when the gap wasn't big enough for him to get out. He began trying to force his door open even more pecking at our SUV with each try. I yelled at him as did my wife. His wife backed their car up after I told him that is what they should do rather than door ding our car repeatedly. He walked up, without saying a word, and began wiping the door dings off the side of our car. My wife pushed his hand away and told him not to touch our car. He got a little puffy and my wife told his wife the best thing to do is just go away. He and his wife walked inside a restaurant then came back out and drove to the other side of the restaurant. Without a doubt the guy was intoxicated. He never said a single word and he was really confused as to why his door would not open all the way even though he was about a foot from our SUV.
A few minutes later the guy we were meeting came around the side of our SUV as my wife and I sat in the back. He was close to our SUV on the driver's side and because the windows have a heavy tint it was like he came out of nowhere. I knew we were there to meet someone but had no clue who he was or what he looked like. My wife seen the guy we were meeting first and jumped up after being startled which caused me to jump up. I start moving for cover as I was clearing my gun from its holster. Before I was completely clear I realized it was the guy we were meeting and I nonchalantly pulled my shirt back down over the gun.
I would say I was 90% cleared by the time I realized what was going on and the guy we were meeting acted like he was a little uneasy. Maybe it was because he was also meeting a stranger or maybe he seen the gun.
My initial thought was it was the first guy coming back because he was pissed because my wife told him to leave and not say a word.
BTW, we were buying a rat.
Poor rat didn't know what trouble he caused!
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How does the 43 carry compared to the 26? I carry a 19 and have found it to be rather comfortable. However, the smaller the more the comfort increases in most cases, so just curious about the 43.
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Steel clips came in the mail a couple of days ago when I was out of town. Waaaay sturdier and keeps a tighter clamp on my belt.
I may look into this soon, I ordered mine with the standard plastic clips. They have done fine for me thus far, but I have been curious about the steel clips.
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Jefferson County
Went to school at good ole Carson Newman, small town!
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A second thought: The world we live in is just sad. They guy got cut off or had a close call and finds it necessary to threaten someone's well being over that? People are too sensitive, if getting your feelings hurt leads to this, you've got your own set of issues.
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Yep, anyone in this circumstance should be in reasonable fear for their life. If someone follows you home, then comes at you on your property with a bat, chances are he isn't there because he wants to toss the baseball around. If the aggressor wasn't deterred after the victim pulled out a handgun, the next reasonable step would be shooting him. Understanding that most people would do anything to avoid killing another human being, firing a warning shot into the ground would be the next "reasonable" step to avoid taking someone's life. Whoever is responsible for recommending charges and filing them is an idiot. Cases like this only encourage people to kill in self defense when a completely acceptable option to avoid that exists.
I'm assuming the guy with the bat didn't take the victim seriously until he fired the shot.
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Couldn't have said it any better myself. Sometimes it's worth being in a little trouble with the law opposed to losing your life because you were worried about law enforcement "punishment."
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Cool to hear, I am very satisfied with my AG holster. I haven't had mine long enough to put a lot of wear on it but that's encouraging!
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Tennessee does border Missouri. You can get from St. Louis to Memphis or Nashville in less than 4 hours.
Good point, I guess since I live in eastern TN I didn't really think about it. It's a solid 7 hrs away from where I am located though.
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I'm not saying most, but a certain percentage of them are not anti gun period, just anti you mere civilian having a gun. And then there are some that really are anti gun and they don't even like carrying one but it's their job.
And then the rest are normal folk. :)
I know what you mean! Seems odd that someone would want to enforce the law for their career and not be pro-gun.
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I could be wrong, but I bet most LEO's are not anti-gun haha! Given that they carry a firearm 24/7 during work, you would think that anyway.I was stopped in Georgia and answered yes when the deputy asked if there were any weapons. He just had me keep my hands in front, but nothing else. At the end of the stop, he suggested informing his fellow LEO because some of them "might fly off the handle" (his words) when they find out you have a gun. That actually sounds like an excellent reason not to inform.
The last thing I want to do is tell some anti-gun cop, "I have a gun."
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So sorry to hear about your speeding ticket. However, if you were driving half as bad as you do at work, that cop certainly had a good reason to give you a ticket.
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Overly Cautious State of Mind
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