[A Few Things to Remember When Gifting a Gun for Christmas]

Gift Card seems the way to go. 

Know someone that got an AR15 for Xmas from kids. I don't know his feelings, but he is a hunter not a shooter. Think he mostly has Muzzle Loaders, Bolt Action Hunting Rifles, Shotguns (hunting guns) and some pistols he hardly ever shoots.

Can't imagine he wants an AR15 with 30 round MAG.  Haven't asked him, so don't know.  

[Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks]

I am kind of like some others on Bump Stocks, Fully AUTO, Machine Guns, Bazookas, Bombs, 50 Calibers, etc.,  "Why Do I Need Them".  Maybe fun to shoot if could afford.   And, I don't think folks are trying to take our guns, it's a political route.

This Trump thing is funny if not so sad.

I can remember his campaign. recent rallies, his behavior as president (not to mention his behavior long before running for president), the folks he has appointed (what 20 have bailed out or kicked out  and 5 been indicted and pleaded guilty), so I wonder why anyone would support him.

It is hard to understand that even  2nd Amendment groups, extreme right wingers, and racists  would support someone of his character.  Only a minority did, the Electoral College gave him to us.  Now we see what we got. 

Looking for a Blue Cap "Make America Decent Again".   

[TAURUS SPECTRUM 380 - Picked Up De 23 (Traded Hi-Point)]

Cleaned it up after the first shoot (25 rounds and say 10 Fail to Fire), I also cleaned up the feed ramp as I had one Fail to Feed the first shoot. The Fail to Feed was with the round's projectile's nose (just below center of point) wedged against the bottom of the feed ramp and the tail of the round still in the MAG.

That Fail to Feed had nothing to do with the surface of the feed ramp, maybe the design of the bottom of the feed ramp and the slope of the round in the MAG. 

Very hard to clear that type Fail to Feed as the MAG would not come out and could not move the round except to pry it with a screwdriver (on my knife) or something else.  

Anyway, took the pistol out again Jan 2 (26 rounds). They they did at least all fire this time but had to pull trigger 2 or 3 times on say 10 rounds of the 26.  I also, had a Fail to Feed on the first round from one clip (again nose against bottom of feed ramp and tail in MAG). 

I did collect most of the spent cases.  I thought the ones that fired looked like light hits on the primer. The ones that required 2 or 3 strikes showed more damage to the primer (repeated strikes I guess). All hits were centered in the primer and looked like good clean round hits (not as deep as might expect). 

ANYWAY, it is on it's way back to TAURUS as of this AM (TAURUS sent a work number and a FREE Shipping Label for FEDEX).  By The Way, can you believe FEDEX quoted $68 to ship it before I got the FREE Label.  

I was amazed TAURUS sent a shipping label because their web site spells out customer ships IN and they ship BACK. 

By the way, I had called Customer Service an waited a good while (last time I called got a connected to a person quickly).  I kept waiting, but went on the web site to CHAT.  The CHAT Rep came on quickly and I explained the situation.

He sent work number on CHAT and E Mailed the Shipping Label.

I WAS AMAZED. Be MORE AMAZED if they fix it. ????

I took a lot of good pictures of the gun's innards, and the MAGs to show the slope of rounds in the MAGs. Just  can't post anything on this site as not up to using their procedures. SAD.  

 

 

 

[Dollywood]

Topic is pretty well addressed in this post (older topic).

Update for end of 2018 season from a local that goes to Dollywood several times a year (have a year pass).

It is POSTED for NO WEAPONS.

They check bags at gate after you have a ticket, saw no wands.  One time they asked if had pocket knife, o see pocket knife, showed them and it was OK (about a 3 inch blade).

As far as food, we have never been stopped for that, but only take a couple cereal bars or an apple in pocket (not a big bag of food).  We don't buy any food there either, wait until get out in the real world.  

[Drinking and carrying leads to negligent discharge at Knoxville restaurant]

All I know is I get nervous thinking about SOME FOLKS that carry or have access to guns Drinking or Not Drinking). Some might be more dangerous that the BAD GUYS even when they don't have bad intentions.   

As far as drinking and having a gun or a vehicle to drive, I would venture to say, "Leaving it up to a drinker to decide when he has reached a limit to make good judgement about anything would likely lead to problems".  

[Friend sent me this from another site!]

Another opinion - good find.

Probably we better off to get off more rounds cause many of the rounds miss anyway.  

Avoidance if possible be the best bet in the long run (no legal problems). 

[M1911 my clip want lock in the gun]

I am not a gunsmith (for sure), maybe take MAG out and shine a light up the grip to see if you can see the MAG catch as you press and release MAG button while looking.  

Strange a new gun would do that, but stuff happens.  

[Maybe my new favorite pistol....]

Don't know the first thing about that gun --- except it sure is PRETTY. 

[TAURUS SPECTRUM 380 - Picked Up De 23 (Traded Hi-Point)]

Update after first visit to a Range (shot 26 rounds).

SUMMARY: Results were not good as far as performance with light primer strikes, a fail to feed, a fail to lock back on last round, and trigger is not the best but I did manage to shoot pretty accurate (For Me) once I got the feel of the trigger. 

More details:

I am disappointed because of the Failures to Fire (light primer strikes I reckon) on say 5 or 6 of 26 rounds I shot. Maybe going to need some fire pin assembly improvement.  It's double action so kept pulling trigger and the rounds that did not fire the first pull did by pull 2 or 3. I had one that pulled 5, maybe 10 times all together as took it out and put it back in once. It never did fire and I thought maybe a bad round. I later stuck it in the 9mm and it fired the first strike. 

 

I saw some issues about Fail To Fire on U-Tube Reviews, folks sent gun back to Taurus and problem got fixed on warranty (TAURUS has changed Warranty to 1 year on guns MFG after Jan 2017). I am covered for a year, but DANG I hate to spend the money to send it back and then wait and hope it is fixed.

 

I also had one (maybe 2) Fail to Feed, the round wedged nose first against the bottom of the feed ramp. That also showed up on a U-Tube Review with a fix (by the U-Tube Guy). He had one MAG that ran good, and another did not run good (Fail To Feed). He noted the 'bad' MAG let the bullets set level (horizontal) vs sloped up toward the ramp. So, the slide would shove the nose of the bullet into the bottom of the ramp and wedge it there. He bent the lip of the 'bad' MAG just to allow the bullet to point up as a fix.

 

Thing is, my MAGs (2 of them) appear to allow the bullet to point up (at least the top bullet is). I noticed the second or next round was sitting level, not sloped up. Perhaps it does not always get correct orientation before the slide picks up the round and slams it shut. Guess wait and see about that problem.

 

Accuracy for me took some getting use to the trigger  (long pull as double action, and long reset). I finally got the feel of when break was coming and did not do too bad (for ME).

 

I might add the trigger take up is scratchy. I think that is due to the firing pin assembly cause when I had the gun broke down, the trigger feels fine, but when manually operating the firing pin assembly, I could feel the scratchiness.  I disassembled the firing pin assembly to a point, did not learn much except when I had the spring and a guide rod out - could still feel the scratchiness. Further disassembly gets complicated per one U-Tube guy that said very hard to put back together cause of three small springs besides the large spring and rod that I took out.

 

Anyway, guess it will be fun to mess with for awhile, I liked it for What It Is, but did expect it would perform, I hope can get it squared away.

 

[HI Point Handguns (& carbines) USA Made]

20 minutes ago, hipower said:

Get a Fed-Ex quote on shipping it back. I've had to send a couple for service recently and they were pretty reasonable.

I did call UPS about shipping another gun (Heritage 22 Pistol) - estimated PKG to be 10x10x2 and about 2 lbs so they could estimate cost over the phone.

They said around $16 to Miami from Knoxville. Only UPS office you can ship a gun from in this area is in Knoxville. 

[TAURUS SPECTRUM 380 - Picked Up De 23 (Traded Hi-Point)]

I got carried away on my Hi-Point Topic regarding this trade and reason I did and an evaluation of the Spectrum ( I have not shot it yet, just notice the scratch trigger pull - double action in case you did not know that).

 Summarize part of the reason for the trade was because of the $35 rebate on the Spectrum (by Taurus) and Smoky Mtn Gun did offer to trade. Not much offer, but $75 for the gun, case, extra Mag.  So, final cost cash from me was $79.66 for the switch.  

Then thought I should start a new topic on the TAURUS SPECTRUM 380 based on my evaluation at this point. Maybe, someone has some experience with the firing pin (removal) that I don't.  

HMMM!!! Just realized be easier to go copy from my Hi-Point post to paste it here than to retype it. I did and came back to edit this post.  

I add an evaluation with out having shot the Spectrum 380. 

U-Tube reviews in general are good. It Is What It Is, a low priced small pistol primarily made for easy Concealed Carry, and not a target pistol although some folks do pretty good shooting it.

I have not shot it, but did break it down, lube it and have racked it hundreds of times (cheap break in with out AMMO). By the way, a very easy break down, turn one screw head 1/4 turn CCW and pull slide off, put slide back on and the lock screw resets itself. Barrel and spring with rod is easy out also. 

My main issue not having shot it is the Trigger Pull, it is double only so a long pull before break and a long reset. The worst thing is the trigger is scratchy during the long pull. 

Having the slide off I noticed the trigger pull is very smooth with out the slide (only the trigger parts and not setting the firing pin in the slide). 

I then moved the firing pin back (manually) on the slide and you can feel the scratchiness.

I took the spring and short rod (it's in the rear of the slide) out of the slide and you still feel the scratchiness when moving the firing pin by hand. 

Removing the firing in beyond what I did is a DIFFICULT procedure with a number of small springs and a pin involved per U-Tube posts (check U-Tube for Taurus Spectrum 380 Firing Pin Removal).

There are only two posts and they are not complete.:

One guy is misled in thinking the firing pin is the rod in the spring. That rod is not the firing pin, it is rod to guide the spring.  He does at least show how to remove that spring and rod from the slide. 

The other guy's presentation is more informative as he did have his firing pin out at one time (he says). HOWEVER, he dose not show the removal. He points out that the main block in the slide where the firing pin is actually located (call it the firing pin assembly) can be removed. However, he points out he had a very hard time getting it back together as total of three little springs to deal with and a pin he nearly lost. 

I had not researched U-Tube before looking at mine (dumb), but at least I did not go so far as to remove the block (firing pin assembly). I did remove the rear spring and rod. 

I did then manually slide the firing pin (call it the tip the trigger moves) by hand and could feel the scratchiness. SO, IT IS IN THE FIRING PIN ASSEMBLY. 

The black tube 'thingy' I slid back reaches a stop, but there is a button (Thin about 1/4 inch) in the slide near the rear that releases that black tube 'thingy' and allows it to slide back another 1/2 inch. 

That exposes a bit more of the firing pin, a metal portion shows up that appears to have some wear (remember this gun has not been fired, but dry fired maybe 10 times at most).  

The black tube 'thingy' that seems to contain the firing pin is blocked from coming any further. SO, NOT MUCH ELSE can be done in that position.

I AM GLAD I DID NOT GO FURTHER as not knowing what I am doing. 

I would like to maybe Emory Paper it smoother if I could gain access to it after a closer look.

I will just go and see if it shoots at this point. Hope I did not mess anything up.

ANYONE have any experience with the Spectrum 380 (in particular the firing pin and trigger scratchiness)?????

[HI Point Handguns (& carbines) USA Made]

That got long  

I add an evaluation with out having shot the Spectrum 380. 

U-Tube reviews in general are good. It Is What It Is, a small pistol primarily made for easy Concealed Carry, and not a target pistol although some folks do pretty good shooting it.

I have not shot it, but did break it down, lube it and have racked it hundreds of times (cheap break in with out AMMO). By the way, a very easy break down, turn one screw head 1/4 turn CCW and pull slide off, put slide back on and the lock screw resets itself. Barrel and spring with rod is easy out also. 

My main issue not having shot it is the Trigger Pull, it is double only so a long pull before break and a long reset. The worst thing is the trigger is scratchy during the long pull. 

Having the slide off I noticed the trigger pull is very smooth with out the slide (only the trigger parts and not setting the firing pin in the slide). 

I then moved the firing pin back (manually) on the slide and you can feel the scratchiness.

I took the spring and short rod (it's in the rear of the slide) out of the slide and you still feel the scratchiness when moving the firing pin by hand. 

Removing the firing in beyond what I did is a DIFFICULT procedure with a number of small springs and a pin involved per U-Tube posts (check U-Tube for Taurus Spectrum 380 Firing Pin Removal).

There are only two posts and they are not complete.:

One guy is misled in thinking the firing pin is the rod in the spring. That rod is not the firing pin, it is rod to guide the spring.  He does at least show how to remove that spring and rod from the slide. 

The other guy's presentation is more informative as he did have his firing pin out at one time (he says). HOWEVER, he dose not show the removal. He points out that the main block in the slide where the firing pin is actually located (call it the firing pin assembly) can be removed. However, he points out he had a very hard time getting it back together as total of three little springs to deal with and a pin he nearly lost. 

I had not researched U-Tube before looking at mine (dumb), but at least I did not go so far as to remove the block (firing pin assembly). I did remove the rear spring and rod. 

I did then manually slide the firing pin (call it the tip the trigger moves) by hand and could feel the scratchiness. SO, IT IS IN THE FIRING PIN ASSEMBLY. 

The black tube 'thingy' I slid back reaches a stop, but there is a button (Thin about 1/4 inch) in the slide near the rear that releases that black tube 'thingy' and allows it to slide back another 1/2 inch. 

That exposes a bit more of the firing pin, a metal portion shows up that appears to have some wear (remember this gun has not been fired, but dry fired maybe 10 times at most).  

The black tube 'thingy' that seems to contain the firing pin is blocked from coming any further. SO, NOT MUCH ELSE can be done in that position.

I AM GLAD I DID NOT GO FURTHER as not knowing what I am doing. 

I would like to maybe Emory Paper it smoother if I could gain access to it after a closer look.

I will just go and see if it shoots at this point. Hope I did not mess anything up.

ANYONE have any experience with the Spectrum 380 (in particular the firing pin and trigger scratchiness)?????

HMMM !!!! this needs to be a separate topic and I will.   

   

 

 

 

  

[HI Point Handguns (& carbines) USA Made]

Hi-Point 380 traded at Smoky Mtn Guns & Ammo in Sevierviile, TN for a TAURUS SPECTRUM 380.

They allowed $75 on the trade. Think I had $153 in it including tax and background check plus an extra MAG (10 round I bought -- $19 I think).  Trade included the gun, case it came with, and extra 10 round MAG. Actually, I wondered if they would even take a Hi-Point on trade.

That said, I am not knocking Hi-Point as this 380 is the only one I have owned. I think a decent low priced gun and reports are they stand behind a Lifetime Warranty. It is "what it is is what it is", a heavy, clunky looking, shoots OK, could be used for defense at home or in a vehicle, and target but it is not a competitive target gun and not a concealed carry gun.   

One thing that turned me off is this one developed a keyholing problem. Hi-Point agreed to take it back for a look (hopefully would be repaired). Cost to me would be shipping (I estimate $20 or $25). I just decided I did not need it. 

Mine was a 380, more costly AMMO than a 9MM, so more expensive for target shooting than a 9MM, the Hi-Points are too big for me to want to Carry, and I prefer a 9MM over the 380.  

THEN why trade for another 380?????? 

Mainly, TAURUS offering $35 rebate on the Spectrum 380 (two MAGS, one with pinky, 7 rds, and one not, 6 rds).  Spectrum shown at Smky Mtn Guns & AMMO for $169.99 (I did not price anywhere else). That was a temptation as final cost would be $79.66.  I was out $114.66 on the purchase (including tax, background, etc.) - $35 Rebate (gift card) will be $79,88 final.  

Just figured something new to shoot and at least the Spectrum (10 OZ empty) would be an Alternate Carry for some situations. I don't think it is considered a target gun.  LOL   

Finally, I am not so sure it is a gun I need or will like.

 

My opinions about 380s vary, some advantages and some disadvantage (I just think a 9mm makes more sense).

 

Maybe play with it some (shoot targets like in a defense practice or even see if I can aim it. And, my  Ruger SR 22 would have been the only Substitute Carry obver my 9MM. Now, I  could use the Spectrum 380  (if ever had a reason to substitute, maybe as a pocket gun). I still have 4 boxes of 380 AMMO. Anxious to shoot the Spectrum.

 

Anyway -- my thoughts also ran to get rid of the Hi-Point and have a different gun for a net outlay of $79.66.  I don't count the loss of the Hi-Point because as not using it. 

[SW22 Victory - Ejection Problem - ? About Fix (Bend Ejector)]

On 12/15/2018 at 5:51 PM, tnhawk said:

Glad to hear you got the SW22 working properly.  I've had good service from mine since new, except when using a suppressor with lead round nose ammunition.

Thanks for your input. 

My SW22  does not have the threaded barrel. I think mine is the cheapest model made, but Previous Owner added a lot of extras.  

Maybe I would buy a  compensateor for looks if it had threaded barrel they look neat, but not really needed for a 22).

I doubt I would mess with a permit for a suppressor, although the noise reduction would be nice.  

[Heritage Rough Rider Revolver - Any Good as Cheap Single Action 22 Toy]

This Heritage is becoming a real pain  --- Sometimes I think it is shooting OK to keep it or not send it in for the keyholing problem (especially with STD or Slower Velocity). 

Then I was at the range Dec 13 and shot some Aquila Std Velocity (not too bad accuracy, but had some keyholes. 

Then shot some Remington Thunderbolt and had lousy accuracy and a lot of keyholes.  A LOT OF KEYHOLES.

Wish I could easily put pictures in this forum,, I would show you a pictures.

PS: I have not experimented or tried the required procedure - seems so easy on many forums to add pictures (wish this was).  

PSS: Heritage said send it back in as it should shoot up to 1300 Plus FPS AMMO. I really like messing with the pistol (old west style 6 shooter) and like the look of it and the price ($109 plus tax and background) is not bad if it worked.

That said, not sure worth the money to ship it in and HOPE THEY fix it. Temped to buy another, but maybe cheap is cheap and best to forget owning one. ???    

 

 

 

[Keep or sell the .380s?]

I would love to get rid of my Hi-Point 380 - different category than what is talked here (smaller 380s for Carry).

I just don't have a use for it, too big to Carry (OK for home or vehicle I guess). AMMO too expensive for target shooting. Plus it Keyholes a lot. Hi-Point said send it in probably need barrel replaced, not sure I want to spend the money tos end it in.

I  don;t know why I bought it.

I shoot 22's (four of them) for fun and practice target and defense shooting (22LR is much cheaper to shoot).

I have a 9MM Taurus Millinneum G2 (2016 purchase) for defense. That AMMO is cheaper than a 380 as well and I mostly practice Defense Shooting with it after warm up with 22s - do very little aim and shoot targets with the 9MM.  

That Said, saw Taurus Spectrum 380 at Knifeworks (Smoky Mtn Guns) with a sign for $35 rebate on a $170 gun (Net $135).  Sale is til Dec 31 I think. That is size of the small guns talked about in this topic and feels decent in hand for a small gun. Tempting at that price.

 

 

[A reliable semi-auto Taurus other than the PT92 ?]

As far as I am concerned my Taurus Millennium G2 is well worht the money ($189). It is being replaced by the new G2C (I think G2c).  

I just made a post on a topic asking about the G2C: Copy it here as seem applicable to this topic.

COPY and Paste:

My understanding the G2C is nearly same as the Millennium G2 except does not have the internal locking mechanism. Doubt anyone ever used that anyway, and maybe makes the trigger pull more smooth without that locking mechanism (a notch in the firing pin mechanism is not needed with the new gun).  

Based on my Millennium G2 which runs good, hardly ever have a failure. I would say the new version would be OK.

I am more accurate with the M G2 than I was when I first started shooting pistols in DEC 2015 (22 was first pistol).

I bought the Taurus in 2016, $189 with an extra MAG plus tax and background.

I was terrible with it, shot mostly low and left a good 8 to 12 inches off target at even 15 feet. I blamed my shooting on the long trigger pull (or the gun).  Now I don't notice that and surely my troubles were my own lack of skills (skills have improved -- not an expert). 

I would not consider it a target Competition Pistol, but plenty good for Defense (12 +1 rounds is comfortable to know also).  And they are around for like $189 as minimum (G2C also) . 

 

 

[Anyone tried the new Taurus G2C?]

My understanding nearly same as the Millennium G2 except does not have the internal locking mechanism. Doubt anyone ever used that anyway, and maybe makes the trigger pull more smooth without that locking mechanism (a notch in the firing pin mechanism is not needed with the new gun).  

Based on my Millennium G2 which runs good, hardly ever have a failure. I would say the new version would be OK.

I am more accurate with the M G2 than I was when I first started shooting pistols in DEC 2015 (22 was first pistol).

I bought the Taurus in 2016, $189 with an extra MAG plus tax and background. I was terrible with it, shoot mostly low and left a good 8 to 12 inches off target at even 15 feet. I blamed my shooting on the long trigger pull (or the gun).  Now I don't notice that and surely my troubles were my own lack of skills (skills have improved -- not an expert). 

I would not consider it a target Competition Pistol, but plenty good for Defense (12 +1 rounds is comfortable to know also).  And they are around for like $189 as minimum. 

 

[What Revolver Scope do you use?]

Had thought about scoping my SW22 and searched to find this scope.  

A Hammer Premium Calls Long Eye Relief Pistol Scout Scope 2-7 x 32 Silver Chrome with Weaver Rings at WALMART --- $55.  Would look good ona SW22 sicne it's a Silver Chrome look.

Made in China (maybe that turns you off). 

Don't seem to be able to copy the WALMART link (maybe that violates rules - sorry). Guess you can search it yourself.  

Anyway, after trying a friends Red Dot on my gun ( did not like the Red Dot), I decided to stay with open sights the, the way I shoot rest of my pistols (all 22s except the 9MM and a 380 I wish I did not own).  

[SW22 Victory - Ejection Problem - ? About Fix (Bend Ejector)]

Thanks Garufa (and everyone else) ---

I have shot the gun a good deal as of this date and no further problems.

Turns out I am happy at $249 plus tax and background check for the gun (used) with all the extras (3 extra MAGS, 5 extensions for the 5 MAGS it came with, the upgraded Trigger, and the Bolt Pull Back Extension). 

I mainly use it to test my accuracy at target shooting (aiming).   Maybe, need newer (not so used) gun and better version of SW22 if a Competition Shooter.

I use smaller 22 (Ruger SR22) for what I call defense practice (my version of defense practice). The SR22 cheaper to shoot (getting down to 4 cents or less a round) and is more the size and action of my carry gun.

So, practice with the SR22 doing various things and then shoot a few rounds, 30 or so,  of 9MM doing the same defense practice (keep cost down).  

[SW22 Victory - Ejection Problem - ? About Fix (Bend Ejector)]

It appears to be FIXED --- shot 60 rounds today (5 different AMMOs) and no FTE.

I had 2 FTL and one of those happened at the same time the MAG dropped down. Not sure what caused the MAG to drop, but it happened twice and i think with the same MAG (have them numbered 1 thru 5) 

Thanks especially to Garufa for setting me straight on what an Ejector is VS an Extractor.  

[SW22 Victory - Ejection Problem - ? About Fix (Bend Ejector)]

Took a look at it and I THINK it is fixed, will not know until I shoot it.

I think a good way yo do the "Bent the Ejector)" is as I did. Maybe easier to not go to the trouble removing the Barrel, Frame, Slide that I did, but I liked seeing what I was working on and bending just enough to make good contact with the case VS  reaching in with long nose pliers and guessing.

1) I took barrel, frame, and slideoff the grip (used the take down screw).

2) I turned the barrel, frame, and slide upside down. You can then see the Extractor, Ejector, and a spent case as you pull the slide back toward the ejector.

NOTE: I used an Allen wrench to hold the case in the extractor as I slid the slide back. Used Allen size smaller than 1/8 inch and stick the small side of the Allen into the case and go in from the side to set the case in the Extractor.  (Wish I could put pictures in VS trying to describe things).  

3) I then noted as I pushed the slide back, I could go past the Ejector with the case (have a picture that shows that). The Ejector did make some contact with the case sometime (kind of like sometimes the gun ran a few rounds before a FTE).

4) I started prying the Ejector over toward the center of the gun with a screw driver against the frame. I guess you call the Bending It, but not like putting a sharp bend in it. You just push it over a bit and it springs back.  Then checked where it was visually  (can see it with barrel and frame removed from the grip and laid upside down on a bench).  

5) Basically, keep doing Step 4 until it appears the Ejector was seated better and then a final check with the Case installed again.

You can't push the slide past the Ejector when the Ejector is tight. (BTW, have to hold the case in place with the Allen wrench as you slide it back to make contact with the ejector). 

I HOPE The Gun WORKS now -- pretty sure it will as never had a case where the Extractor did not pull the case out of the Chamber (it just wouldn't eject out of the gun). 

THANKS to Everyone -- I will let you know final outcome. And, I hope this helps anyone having a SW Victory FTE problem.   

  

[Law of Self Defense]

I din't know about any conflicts about Andrew and the FORUM. I was just posting my thoughts on the 'Carry' talk and what is lacking by many, maybe most, of us. That is the Laws of Se;f Defense.  

I am not connected to Andrew in anyway other than it is the source I stumbled onto regarding the serious issues of Carry and the Laws of Self Defense (that if not followed can leave you in a mess for life). I believe he puts out good information and pretty easy to understand.

And, I do get tired of the advertising and promotion involved with his every presentation. DANG, the guy has to make a living. I expect he does well on that, but I would not pay the price for the material other than the book (it's reasonable as low as $7.95).  

 

[SW22 Victory - Ejection Problem - ? About Fix (Bend Ejector)]

On 10/12/2018 at 3:56 PM, Garufa said:

It will get fixed one way or another but I think you are confusing EXTRACTOR with EJECTOR.

The Ejector is spot welded to the frame and shoves the spent case out.  The Extractor is the claw thing on the bolt itself that holds onto the case.

Look at post #30 in this thread for pics on bending the Ejector.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/462336-sw22-victory-not-ejecting.html

I REALLY REALLY Appreciate your (Garufa) effort to send a Post and even the reply number that resulted in correcting my ignorance about the process of ejecting a round.   

As I now understand things -- the EXTRACTOR grabs the spent case and pulls it out of the chamber, then the EJECTOR tips the case out of the gun as the slide brings it back to the Ejector.

I always wondered what that little pointed "THINGY" was on various guns.  Now, I know it's the Ejector and can see how you could bend it.

Also, thanks for the other replies, good folks on here.

I will take a close look at the alignment of the Ejector (maybe one can slowly pull the slide back and see if the Ejector is going to contact the spent case). 

PS: I betcha that is the problem as I have never seen a spent case left in the Chamber. So, the Extractor is pulling them out, but they are not being Ejected out of the gun.

PSS; Also, appreciate the comment about being careful, don't break it as it is welded and would have to send it in to S & W to get it fixed. (I saw a comment on a U-Tube about that "Thingy" being welded on and that guy may have called it the Ejector and talked about bending it -- I did not pick up on that at the time).  I ain't a Gun Smith. LOL

PSSS: Would think S & W would have heard or seen this FIX and suggested it to me when I called and talked to a TECHIE about the issue with this gun.    

 

[Shooter convicted of 2nd degree murder...]

Do some serious study on the Laws of Self Defense (Andrew Blanca's book is a start).

You need at least a basic knowledge of the 5 ELEMENTS required for you to have a legal case of Self Defense if you ever get prosecuted.  

Likely, you need that knowledge before you ever think about carrying a Deadly Force weapon (as to when you can brandish or use it -- Laws of Self Defense 5 elements shed some light on that).  

Personally, I think it should be a law to know a lot more than the present methods provide that allow us to Carry a weapon of Deadly Force.

It makes me nervous just thinking about the mentality of some folks that carry.  Take Carry Open as an example - I think one of the dumbest things a person can do (not just me saying that, nearly every instructor, law officer will say that). There are obvious reasons not to carry open.