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3 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:
So our firearm freedoms are based on "practicality"?
Hell, even when a law is passed, ie the NFA of 1934, it means nothing if ATF is allowed to simply change it via a completely bogus "interpretation".
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I knew that one was coming when I added it.
Of course not. Read the whole post.
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1 hour ago, Oh Shoot said:
"It" is a whimsical ruling, not a law. But to be enforced as if it were an actual passed law.
Now Florida did actually pass a no-bump-stock law, promoted by that staunch 2A governor, Rick Scott. Who will now be a staunch 2A supporting Senator, where as such he can do a lot more damage in the future.
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So it's more the method used to rid the world of bump stocks than the actual loss of bump stocks that has everyone in a lather?
Either way these devices were doomed from the start in IMO. Too close to full auto which was taken away long ago.
The line has been drawn in the sand with Semi-auto and unless you live in a Prog State, that includes a pistol grip, full capacity mags and other features too. As well as the right to keep them at the ready outside of a range!
Trump or his advisers know this. They know his base. He might talk stupid but he wants to win and knows how to win. He will defend that line in the sand better than any Democrat looking to be President right now.
So don't fault Trump with trying to appease a some of his low information supporters on the fringe of his base if they don't want what seems like "machine guns" to them on the streets. He needs every vote. Hillary won't be running against him next time. The Dems will not allow it!
Look at the big picture.
Besides, were bump stocks really practical anyway??
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1 hour ago, Oh Shoot said:
There is no new law regarding bump stocks. Just ATF knuckling under to a DJT whim.
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So it's not specific to bump stocks?
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(I feel that law is unconstitutional too) Bingo!
I wouldn't disagree with you there.
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4 hours ago, Omega said:
Well, let's look at the anology; the way to execute an extra point or field goal is to get the ball between the goal post uprights. But if they then change it to where it now has to go between one foot over the horizontal bar and one foot below the top of the uprights, after you have kicked the ball, then would anyone go for that? It's their charge to give us the left and right limits to stay legal, if they are not up to the job they need to find employment elsewhere.
That's what they are doing. They finally got around to telling us that the bump stock, (in their opinion), turns a semi-auto into a machine gun and it's not going to be allowed because full auto is no longer allowed. No real law change just a catch up on things availiable now.
We all know that a bump stock does not a machine gun make but it's pretty obvious it is a lame attempt to mimic full auto,
and it works well in the right hands somewhat. I'm surprised no politician caught this earlier. Then again many are gun ignorant on the left.
Now when they start putting vague language in the law that talks about "any alteration that can increase a rate of fire"......
That needs to be nipped in the bud! That can mean trigger jobs and other modest mods to make a gun run smoother and yes, a little faster maybe.
I understood this law specifically mentioned Bump Stocks. I hope it did anyway. If not this law IS the slippery slope you all think it is!
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Welcome!
Where are you retiring from?
I'm meeting quite a few people coming here from NY, Illinois, CA, Michigan........
Mostly retired.
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If the goal post was no full auto for all this time, then a device was made to mimic full auto....
Now that device is illegal too.
Then I don't see how the goal post was moved.
Good to try not to give an inch though.
It slows up the Prog March to ban semi-auto.
So shhhhh about the beltloop thing.
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27 minutes ago, cybernorris said:
Photographed a wedding today and was very comfortable with the LCP in the pocket. I couldn't have easily carried anything much larger.
The LCP isn't easy to control with larger hands. I have problems pulling to the right on the LCP that I don't have with the G19. Looking forward to trying out the G26.
BTW, some of us have used a concealed permit to give a seller confidence he's not selling to a prohibited possessor.
The guy I'm selling to just got his permit so no problem there.
I did however sell a shotgun here awhile back to a coworker at a shop I worked at. Reasonable guy, steady job etc.
Never gave a thought about transfer laws or if he was a felon or not till a few days later. Then I got to thinking.....
Never went and asked, at that point it was too late.
I also did a trade here in TN but that guy had recently purchased through an FFL so I'm ok there I guess.
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The scary part is he's not alone in his thinking.
The left is normalizing the idea all semi-auto guns are "assault weapons."
Yes!, even that old tube fed .22 gathering dust in the safe you got as a kid.
And assault weapons if allowed for civilians at all should only be allowed at the range. Highly regulated and stored there forever and ever.
Imagine having to get a permission slip and make an appointment to use your own rifle at an appointed range at an appointed time on an appointed lane.
This particular common sense common ground BS idea is gaining more and more traction.
Listen carefully....more and more of them are floating this idea.
The Progs will get this restriction in Prog run States very soon I'm thinking.
Sad to watch a population volunteer to disarm because the government promises to keep them safe.
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Good info!
I finally acquired an SKS about a year ago on a trade.
As with most SKS owners I pondered what it would take to make it take AK mags. Even though I prefer the fixed mag design. That's one of the unique features that made it desirable to me in the first place.
Although it's not something I would ever do, I appreciate why people go this route. It's a bit of a skill challenge and...
Because they can.
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I had a 69 with a 351 windsor. That car sucked! It kept getting speeding tickets.
I know that car was tame compared to other Mustangs but I'm lucky to be alive after having that as my first car.
It was as fast as anything my friends had and the lousy drum brakes took FOREVER to stop.
1964, the birth year of Mustang and myself!
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Well, I've decided to sell my .380 LCP to a guy at my Company. He's borrowed it to see if he likes it.
I liked it but cant get accurate with it. I have no problem with the round or the tiny concealed concept but this gun wasn't for my hand.
Question....
Here in TN no laws against face to face transfers yet, correct? No FFL middleman.
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5 hours ago, gregintenn said:
Jilted ex wives and pissed off neighbors are gonna have a field day with this.
Asinine law carried out in an asinine way!
If a guy was/is a credible threat.....Then he needs to be locked up.
So lets say the guy threatens to kill you because your dog keeps crapping in his yard. You call the Cops.
Lets say cops somehow without a fight, manage to get all the guns they know of that he has. Would you feel safer then?
What if your relative that lives far away calls you up drunk talking suicide because his wife left.
Lets say cops somehow without a fight, manage to get all the guns they know of that he has. Would you stop worrying that he might kill himself?
Despite registration laws some States have.... maybe the Stasi doesn't know of all the guns a guy has hidden away.
After all....Orwell's "Big Brother" system hasn't been fully deployed here in the U.S. just yet!
And if they manage to get all his guns? We all know there are more ways to kill oneself and others without firearms.
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R.I.P. ROY
Amazing talent way before Hee-Haw
Another celebrity so popular from my youth dies that a large section of the population had no clue who he was.
I remember when Don Rickles died I went through 5 or 6 not exactly young people before I got a person who didn't say "who?"
Same will happen with RC I'm guessing but ONE DAY it will happen with the Kardashians, and Beyonce and Taylor and all the other celebs that annoy me nowadays.....
Time marches on.
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2 hours ago, Oh Shoot said:
Extra credit for the Don Quixote analogy!
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The windmill blades should be AR15s.
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38 minutes ago, Grayfox54 said:
Nothing but talk. We still control the Senate and even if something does pass, Trump won't sign it.
I wouldn't be surprised if he signed some (relatively minor to some, not me), legislation if it passed the Senate.
Something like ammunition restrictions or mag capacity. Maybe a more intense scrutiny laden background check system for people buying semi-auto. A mental health evaluation prior to purchase?
We don't control the Senate, It's the Republicans. Although they have a strong 2ndA edge over the Dems.....They are still Politicians.
All the Republican Senators I have heard speaking on the subject talk about a Balance between Safety and 2ndA rights.
That means they are open to some sort of new restrictions. You gotta wonder what's left?
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Doughboys ready to fight Fritz alongside the Tommies and Frogs.
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Just now, gregintenn said:
No, you are correct. Guns=bad. Military=bad. Middle aged white guy=bad. This is the media's checklist. This guy hit the trifecta.
I think in the news profession that's good, good, good not bad,bad,bad.
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4 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:
Military one of the few professions trained to use guns, so it's always relevant in that sense I guess. If he were merely a carry permit holder, that gets played up in similar vein. Plus, both are supposed to be the good gun guys, so always a bitter irony there too.
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I can see that I guess, would be nice if they started with his current profession and worked back though.
There's a damned good chance that might be more relevent.
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Watching MSM briefly this morning.
Host said to guest expert. " it apparently was just a handgun, imagine how bad it would have been if it was an AR assault rifle?"
These people are clueless!
Close quarters chaotic nightclub.....
an AR would not be the most efficient to do evil mass murder IMO.
I don't think it would have been worse with an AR.
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Been working, driving around and catching radio updates of this.
He apparently was a Marine before 2013.
May or may not be relevant if ptsd issues were diagnosed but....
In the majority of cases a bad guy does bad stuff why does the news zero in on military service almost right away?
I'm sure he has had some other jobs since 2013!
If an ex shoe salesman who has been a Realtor for 6 or 7 years shot up a nightclub the news would call him a Realtor. They wouldn't go through his resume years back.
Unless he was in the Military!
Just an observation, maybe I'm perceiving it wrong.
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3 minutes response time. Ridiculously fast. The LEO who died was a real life hero.
As good as it gets in these cases but unfortunately 3 minutes is too slow when seconds count.
May God comfort those families who are grieving today.
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