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TresMon’s LONG Range Shooting Seminar: Nashville, TN! ~Hosted By Lakewood Police Dept.~ Whether you’re a 100yd deer hunter wanting to shoot @ 500 yards with the gear you already have or a 600/1000yd competitor that would like to try a 1 mile shot, or a LEO/Military sniper wanting to get more depth and background for your knowledge base or anywhere in between: This class will give you the knowledge to proceed with those desires. Saturday, March 19th, 9am. Cost is $115 per person pre-registered, $125 the day of @ the door. Pre-registration ends 3-12-11 per USPS postmark. Topics: Mil & Moa All associated math Exterior Ballistics: Line of sight Line of Departure Trajectory Air Density: what effects it,why, and how it effects trajectory Density Altitude Standard Day Inclined fire Wind: Speed determination Determining value Associated cosine Mirage Range Card: Producing your own Typical lay-out & themes Various information Manipulating results Interpolating information Moving targets/ Movers Typical target speeds Common ways of leading Math assoc. w/ Movers Cosines of direction Data Book: Usage & value Various tips tricks & more. Ranging: Reticle ranging & All associated math Other means & tips Scopes: Types & Magnification Reticle style Turret/click values Calibrating reticle Measuring actual click value Reticle subtends Testing the tracking All associated reticle & turret math Focusing & eliminating parallax Correcting Vs. Holding Everything will be covered to put you ahead of the curve for going out and gaining positive, solid long range shooting experience. For registration form, payment information & references Email:nativemant@yahoo.com

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Here's a formal review of my class by an active duty tactical marksman. I received it in e-mail: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Officer Hubb’s Review of “TresMon’s Long Range Shooting Clinic.†13FEB2011 First allow me give some background on myself. I have been in law enforcement for about 13 years. Those of you that have attended a LEO type course/school will understand this critique. I am an active duty FBI trained sniper on my local LE department SWAT team. I am the lead firearm instructor as well for our department. It has been my experience that Law Enforcement officers use schools as a semi- vacation paid by their agency. At shooting classes/schools you’ll find a room full of (type A) students. Allow me to say I am not necessarily “that guyâ€. When we get to class we posture, size up the competition and get ready for the dreaded classroom portion of the school. When the course/school has anything to do with firearms, all we can think of is getting some trigger time. Being professionals we endure the lectures and take the written test. Obviously, this is not the most productive attitude to have when it comes to learning the finer points of long range shooting. So to break tradition, I went to a “civilian†school that just concentrated on the classroom portion of long range shooting. Course Title: TresMon’s Long Range Shooting /8hrs Date: 02/06/2011 Location: Bass Pro Shop, Sevierville TN Instructor: Tres MonCeret “TresMon†Price: $85; Local (to E. TN), Preregistered Instructor Bio: Tres is a frequent contributor to the Sniper’s Hide and other forums. Just do a search and you’ll find he has several great posts. He previously joined the Marine Corps and is a very avid tactical shooter, so he is not a “civilian†by any means. Tres is a machinist by trade and a Christian by heart. Topics: Overview-Mil & Moa and all associated math Exterior Ballistics: Line of sight Line of Departure Trajectory Wind: Speed determination Determining value Associated cosine Constants Mirage Air Density: What effects it, how and how it effects trajectory Density Altitude Standard Day Inclined fire Moving targets/ Movers: Typical target speeds Common ways of leading Math associated w/ Movers Cosines of direction Scopes: Types & Magnification Reticule style Turret/click values Calibrating the reticule Measuring the actual click value Reticule subtends Testing the tracking Torque specs for mounts Lapping rings All associated reticule/turret math Focusing & eliminating parallax Correcting Vs. Holding Class Critique: As you can see from the topics listed this is a very comprehensive clinic. The students who attended this school were either hunters or long range competitors. There was a no kidding a “nuclear engineer†in the class so the math conversations took on a whole new level of explanations. To my knowledge I was the only LEO in the class. Tres, although not an artist used a dry erase board to draw diagrams that explained the concepts he was teaching in such a way that “I got it†for the first time. Some of the topics he covered I had heard of though I did not completely understand until now. I have read a ton of books and manuals on sniping. I have been through the FBI Sniper/ Observer course. I have never read or heard of some of the information I got from Tres’ class nor had it put in such an easy to understand way before. Tres has a strong confident voice that made the lectures easy to listen to. Tres took the time to look at the students faces to see if they comprehended what he was explaining. He fielded every question put to him and would not move on until the student got the concept. What I find that is so unique about Tres is that he can explain very technical, precise concepts in almost layman terms. The subject content was very well presented. Tres gave a disclaimer up front that this is the first class he has taught in the classroom environment, rather than on the firing line. I could not tell. He was well prepared- He scouted the conference room before hand, ran several different lesson plan schedules and had made back up plans incase of technical difficulties. He used scenarios that were sometimes in hunting language, competition language and sometimes in sniper lingo so everyone could understand what he was saying. The only negative comments I have are not so much toward Tres but more for Bass Pro: the conference room we were assigned made me to feel like I was in a storage closet. The audio/visual equipment was either old or not functioning. Tres had to buy special order adapters just to get the antique equipment to work but due to recent winter storms causing shipping delays they did not arrive in time for the class. I feel like if Tres had a formal training/instructional facility this would have been more enjoyable. In conclusion, Tres has an extraordinary ability to explain the mysterious science of long range shooting. If you need to understand all of the factors that effect shooting from 400 to 1400+ yards this is the class for you. I think this guy will be one of the names you will hear in the future as an instructor that is a must to train with. Regards, BH

Bah- hahahahaahah. Thats hilarious!

Mcmanus is one of my all times favorites!

Guy I'm trying my best to find a place to host the class. It's tough going. MANY places have said they would love to host it on Sunday, but as a Christian I want to avoid that. Anybody have any ideas?

LOL! No thats more of a short range thing! Crazy dream! Funny story! Still working on it and embellishing it. Back to original content: Guys I can provide reference on myself per my teaching/training. anybody that deisres it drop me an e-mail.

Thanks! I still laugh looking back!

"Weird name, but what can be in a name?" ----- By TresMon So I normally drag my carcass out of bed at 4:50 am and go to the gym for the 5:30 am "spin" (stationary bike) class. I over slept this morning and missed it.Wanting to get more lean I promised myself I'd go to a/any cardio class this evening to make up for it. So I get back to the gym at 6:45pm and look at the cardio class schedule. I see "Zumba" starts at 7pm sharp. "Fine" I decide, I'm doing "Zumba" -**whatever that is.** So I walk into the big cardio studio and notice quickly it is getting PACKED OUT out with women of all shapes and sizes, in varying TIGHTNESS of clothing. The music starts, the door closes. A quick head count determines there's about 52 women...and me! Pretty quickly I figure out it is a cardio dance class! Oh fun!! : \ Shortly after that the instructor woman instructors screams "Squat way low, pretend your -but- is a magic marker and twitch ur hips like your drawing big slow circles on the floor! THEY LAW! I may have creole booty but I got this!!!!!! Watch -MY JUNK- girls!!! I heard a WHOLE LOT of snickering & giggling. Redneck can hang ladies: CHECK DIS action! Sweat was pouring off me! Honky got it! honky got it! honky got it! This aint EVEN right! These people are practicing freestlye sport competiton sex with their clothes on!! Good gracious sakes alive it was kicking my rear. I think I used muscles God never intended me to use at all, much less -THAT- way! I mean I was shaking my rear like I was trying to dislodge a frozen ovary and my estrogen levels depended on it!!! Then she says "" Okay!!! Add in a shimmy!!"" Dang I got -NO- shimmy. I mean maybe if I had man boobs I could feel the rythm of the shimmy. But I don't so I just kinda improvised this super hip man gyration thang! Wooo-whoo!!!!!!!!! Lawzy day I'm thinking! I'm glad I no longer go to the Baptist church, I get throwed out! Then, in the heat of the battle, not to be outdone I (literally) yell "" Look at me! Imma gurl! Imma gurl!"" on that about 3/4 of the class crashed and burned in laughter. So about the time I decide maybe I'm not the worst Zumba student in the world the instructor throws us another curve ball! Now I'm supposed to shimmy, gyrate, keep up with this butt kickin dance step, draw circles on the floor with my -but- AND turn my whole body in a big circle, while keeping all these little a circles goin!. I'm a 235 pound hunter for crying out loud!!! I'm looking around for a gurney! Finally the song is over and she says "are we warmed up yet? " WARMED UP'S ASTHMA!! Any body got a defibrillator in their leotard????!!!! Well I held my own for the hour long class. I kept waiting to knock women down like my butt was a bowling ball and them pins, but there was no foul or injury that I'm aware of. The poor little woman next to me was barely chest high to me. I have laughed so hard all the way home and I am still now. Man it's good to laugh! I got a lot of pats on the back after class. Pure sympathy I'm thinking. I'm also thinking same time same place next week! Here's what Zumba looks like. Evidently we were doing the extra naughty/embarrassing version though...

Glad you enjoyed it, Tres

Hi guys, I wrote some very technical in-depth hand loading articles. They are posted on another forum. I'm sure some of you guys here will appreciate them so I'm linking them up. Now for you hecklers: I'm not saying everyone should, wants or needs to split all the hairs I do in the articles. Just take it to whatever extreme your personally satisfied with. The hot link is to the first of a 5 section article, but they are all right there together... Hand loading for Long range 1: brass case prep - Sniper's Hide Forums

Greetings guys, Class went great @ Bass Pro last weekend. The word's out! I have requests to do the class for the Nashville guys here on the board, Birmingham, AL, N. Atlanta and VA. If anybody would like me to run the class.seminar in their location, just get together some guys and we'll hold it near you. E-mail me @ nativemant@yahoo.com for a info sheet.

Thanks guys. It was a pleasure to meet you all.

This is confusing. A three digit Savage model number means it's a long action. but a .223 is a short action round. Are you sure you don't have a model 10? Otherwise pull up EGW (Evolution Gun Works.) Look at their pickle scope rails. Weaver style rings works on them but you have far more slots to choose from. = Lots of mounting options. EGW Savage RB (Round Back) Picatinny Tactical Rail Scope Mount - $39.99 : Evolution Gun Works , World Class Precision Parts If you need help I do gun work and am by that way often for pick up. Tres

Thanks Quigley! Let's move further discussion here guys: http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/52875-after-class-comments-review-tresmons-long-range-class-seminar-bass-pro-2-6-11-a.html

I wanted to say thanks SO much to everyone who attended. You made it fun and asked GREAT questions. I hope you all learned and gained from our time. Thanks again, Tres

Try that at 950! : ] Glad you have had good success pard'ner! T

Class is tomorrow!

LOL Agreed.

Tres MonCeret. Hence = "tresmon"

Cute. I have a kestrel and "Shooter" for android as well which is very similar. Let your batts run dead or get a little water in your phone and it takes a dump on ya. Then where ya at? No to mention an EMP burst.....

and if none of that makes ANY sense to you, you need to be in my Long range shooting class @ Bass Pro Shop, Sevierville, TN This sunday @ 9am. I'm also going to try to have a class in nashville in the next 4 weeks. Stay tuned.

Let's ALL stop doing it wrong. (wind call verbage) - Sniper's Hide Forums

Two of those & a string makes a kid smile!

Class would be $115 pre-paid/pre-registered. ($130 day of at the door) It includes a 40 page student manual in a binder I have written, which costs me $100 to print for a typical class size. I'm quite busy with the student manual and need to get back to editing and finish printing the rest of it. But off the top of my head: Experience/training: I shot my first 1000 yard match @ age 12, at ORSA- Oak Ridge Sportsman's assoc. Seems like yesterday but it was over 20 years ago. Been shooting rifles off & on competitively ever since. Heck I have even shot 2 perfect scores @ 1000 yards with a 20" barreled AR-15 in .223. (With many witnesses) I have shot nearly every style of competitive venue out there that involves powder based weapons. I have competed in Archery as well, even a- believe it or not formal spear throwing compete twice. I have been competing in some format with a firearms since I was 7. I was in the NRA Junior competitive program as a kid. The last few years I have participated in "1000yd league" @ ORSA; We meet every monday evening during daylight savings time months and practice @ 1000yds weekly. I'm mostly into 1000 yard NRA F-Class and tactical matches right now. "F-class" is a form of bench rest shooting, but instead of being fired off a heavy cement bench, it's fired from the prone position off the ground, making it, (to me) the next best thing to a tactical match. Per "field" shooting or UKD (unknown distance): It used to be called "sniper matches" but that seems taboo now so it's called tactical matches or UKD. I of course hunt at long range. Not the longest shot, but my favorite was with a girlfirend. We were sitting under a cedar tree over looking a LONG field. She noticed a deer at the tree line on the other side, at the narrowest section of field. I told her to range it with the laser. She got several readings and we averaged it to 413 yds. I dialed the proper elevation, held .2 mils into the wind and squeezed off the round. The wee little AR barked. The deer jolted, ran 20 yards straight towards us and crashed, with not so much as another quiver. That shot was with a little .223 AR wearing but a 16" barrel, shooting (HOT!) fine tuned handloads with Sierra 65 grain Game King bullets.. I hit within 2" of where I was aiming with that little rifle. The girl firend kept looking at me, back to the deer, back to me- I was "da man" that day. ; ] Most of my training experience has been one on one teaching/coaching a shooter right there at the gun. So I have a lot of real world experience in teaching.