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My only question is why .308 bullets? Isn't the bore on that AK .311?
Did you have any difficulty with seating and setback?
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9 hours ago, Jeb48 said:
If it takes 69 shots to hit the bulls eye there seems to be more than a little bit of random luck involved.
I have to agree. Little less impressed than I would be say, 5 rounds or less. I mean, give me a M2, a spotter and enough ammo and I know I could walk/lob it in.
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Was it a vendor or random dude trying to sell? If vendor, they should be banned from future shows, not that you could enforce it. If soem random dude, the door screeners need a good talking to for sure. If we don't police ourselves, they will police us. We will not like it if they police us.
Tin-foil moment though. Been going to gun shows for decades upon decades in a multitude of states and ND's were never really a problem. Now we have a larger than usual push from the left to ban everything, including gun shows and we have 2 in the same year in TN. How many in other states we do not know about...
Not saying it's fishy, but it is starting to smell bad.
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NICE! These are awesome!
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21 hours ago, Whisper said:
I've been attending gun shows since about 1975 and have been present for two negligent discharges of handguns, but never for a flare gun. It must have been...enlightening.
He is sure to get flamed for it for some time I bet.
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49 minutes ago, gregintenn said:
May I inquire as to your reason for leaving Idaho?
Sure,
Retirement. 52 years old, 18 years of Federal Service (Army and Civilian) and counting. Seeking out a place to enjoy my pension and retirement in the next few years.
No family left any longer (family had sold off the mountain properties and what not over the years). For the wife (from ranchland of Oregon) and I (mountains of Idaho), parents had passed, extended family not really close.
Army burned me of deserts. All of Southern Idaho is desert.
Snow. Got too old to really want to deal with snow and months of sub-zero temperatures. Playing in the snow (snowmobiles) required a 3-hour drive from the Boise valley.
Crime. MS13 moved in with the Californians and brought daily gang shootings (red vs. blue) at the convience stores, drug deals over my back fence and local LE had no clue how or desire to deal with it. Home invasions, car thefts, heavy (why we live in Stewart County now) also, I feel safer driving in Nashville now than I did in the Boise Metro area.
Water. Lakes there are crap, at least the lowland ones. Wanted to live near more natural water and natural green(refernce the desert comment above).
Longer warm weather. We like riding motorcycles and more summer activities than winter.
Had an Army buddy settle here from his time at Ft. Campbell. We visited a few times and Stewart County reminds me alot of the small county I grew up in.
Property value (Don't hate me over this one becuase I know it is an evil we helped perpetuate.) We sold our urban, suburb, 1200 sq ft house on 1/8 acre that we still owed on and had enough left over to pay cash for 2 acres, 1800 sq ft, build a shop, pay off the cars, pay cash for a new bike, used boat, and stuff a bunch of money in the bank.
So that's it.
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So, yes I moved to TN a couple years ago, yes mostly I agree that outsiders moving here bringing thier outisder political views with them is bad, espeically those from NY, CA and others.
That said, moving here from ID has been somwhat oppressive as far as gun freedoms go. The latest post about Wilson Co Fairgrounds using metal detectors is one of those opressions.
So, yes, I would love to bring some of my "outisder politics" with me and figure out a way to "infect" TN law with them.
Here we go!
1. ID has a thing called the "Supremacy Clause." Essentially, no local governemnt, city or county could pass laws or ordinaces that were more restrictive than what the state has on file. What this meant for guns is that with a state CC permit you could carry anywhere that was not federally prohibited. So for the county fairs (on county/city owned property) and similar, they could not bar you and your CCW from entering. There was none of this park BS like here. Essentialy, if you were legal to carry, you could carry everywhere (except schools, courthouses, jails, ect.). The only limit to this was drinking, you could carry into a bar but could not drink while carrying.
2. "No Weapons Allowed Signs." WTF is this nonsense in TN? ID had no such law. None! As a private business, the owner could post they did not allow weapons but as there was no state law against it, all they could ever do was ask you to leave. If you didn't, then it was trepassing. But there was none of this "get arrested" stuff that TN has on it's books becuse your wife choose the wrong resturant and you didn't notice the sign.
3. Mandatory background checks on all purchases. Huh? In ID, if you had a CC permit, you did not need background checks to purchase guns in a store or from a dealer. I know this may be hard to believe, but you picked out a gun, filled out your 4473, gave the store your money and your CC Permit to copy info from, and walked out the door with your new gun. No background check, no "gun tax" "fee" "state bribe" or whatever BS this thing in TN is. I was a little taken back by it the fist time I bought a gun in TN to say the least.
4. Shooting on Public Land. Didn't know that was a thing here till the county SO stopped by one day and told me I couldn't do that in the state forrest. Granted, there was much more public land than in TN and that may be the reason. Between FS, BLM, and state land, there was more public acerage than the entire state of TN but still, we could, and did, drive up to any hill-side, set up a bunch of targets and had a full day shooting, even camp over night and clean guns by a camp fire. At the end of the day, pack out all the garbage, clean up the site and went on our way. So long as were safe and didn't put anyone in danger, there were no restrictions on it.
5. Open carry. Guns in racks in your back window. AK's sitting on the back seat. Rifle strapped to my back while ridding my motorcylce to and from the range never got a second glance by law enforement. Even in the cities it was never questioned or harrasable. I have the feeling if tried that in TN, much less through Nashville, Clarksville, Memphis or any other municipality I would be at the least stopped and invesitgated, more likely get a new set a braclets of trying to have some freedom.
So. Too reach the end of my rant, yes, I would love to change some TN laws to match the freedom I came from and why I have to hold my tongue everytime someone describes TN as a gun "friendly state" because I do not see it as such. Now, I moved here to get away from desert, forrest fires, Californication that was taking place, and the long drives to be in the woods that were involved.
Who else would like to see some of these laws here changed?
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Welcome. It's not entirely free but much better than some places for sure.
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8 hours ago, Snaveba said:
They did a pretty good job of defining it. Basically ANY AR or AK. They even list brands and models specifically in the bill.
They even added any "semi-auto copy of an exsisting full-auto gun" and any "semi-auto that takes a detatchable magazine including rimfires".
So, Glock 17's are out becuase there is a Glock 18, Beretta 92's are out becuse there is Beretta 93 and so forth. The intent was to after AR, AK, UZI pistols and the such but rest are just icing to them.
Ruger 10/22's are out as are ones like it as only tube-feds were exempt.
This one is way worse that the 94 ban.
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What is the barrel made of? Buddy and I were discussing how much trouble we could get in having a replica and launching bottle rockets and roman candles out of it on the 4th, veterans day, flag day, and new years.
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On 6/23/2022 at 3:30 PM, Beltfed said:
Does this sight adjustment tool do both AK74S’s and SKS’s?
I use the same tool on all my SKS, 47, 74, 101 rifles. Should work just fine.
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I have several kit AR's. First one is ~10 years old with a round count in the thousands. It has done competative shooting, carbine training, new shooters, and range blasting without ever a stoppage that wasn't the ammo and never a broken part. With good ammo, 1 moa accurate.
They are fine mil-spec basic rifles.
I never understood statements where people say thee are sub-standard but never explain why. The truth is the last time I saw, there were only 5 or 6 AR forgers in the US. All companies buy from them and have thier names added. Very well could a $2000 Dandiel Defence came from the very same forge as a $500 completed Del-Ton.
Only difference is the name and added accesories.
If you are looking for a fun kit to assemble and end up with a basic service carbine that will last a very long time and allow you "upgrade" bits in the future, this kit would be my idea of the way to go. I would't even think twice about assembling one on a Friday night to run in a carbine course on Saturday morning.
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With all the boxer/brass options why would one consider reloading steel beyond just seeing if they could. I reload 7.62x39 but my trouble has always been finding bullets. Buy bulk when I do find them but still. just get some boxer/brass cases and run with it.
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11 hours ago, MigJBaut said:
How much is a arsenal 316 sks with a folding stock and a 30 round magazine and 7 round magazine with 120 rounds of ammo worth
Sadly, the folding stock and removable mags generally reduce the price. There are some who will covet such things but most like me look at it think "How much will it cost me to un f@ck it".
That said, it boils mostly down to condition, missing pieces, and permanent modifications like holes or ground down/off bits, how many numbers match.
You will need detailed pictures for anyone to even begin to guess at value. Based off what you said though ~$250ish without knowing more.
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AK's love my AK's Big thing to understand is the design of 7.63x39, 5.45x39 and 5.56 Nato/223. The x39's have a slight taper to thier cases. This is the "magic" of thier well documented reliability. The case is only in full contact with the chamber walls when the bolt is in full battery. Any other point in the cycle of fire and there is "slop" or space and the case is loose in the chamber. 5.56 is straight walled thus meaning there is always bearring tension once the case enters the chamber all the way through the cycle till full extraction. Not a huge deal as there are plenty of highly reliable 5.56 auto loaders out there but just something to understand.
The hiccup of 5.56 in AK's are the magazines. There is no standard and different AK's can end up needing different mags. Some are purprose built like Galils and a couple of latter military service designed 5.56 AK's when some of the former Warsaw Pact countries later joined NATO and needed to standardize ammo. Romania, Poland, Bulgaria, Yugo. All had thier own designs and the magazines were not always interchangable like 7.62 AK's usually are. These can get very expensive if you want say 20 mags and you have to be picky to the make and reliability can suffer in the aftermarket.
Ammo is of corse widely available in bulk and specialty rounds. Reloading componnents are relatively easy to find at least for the time being for making bulk FMJ shooting ammo.
More recently there are designs that are using AR mags with adapters to the bottom of the reciever. Seems like a good idea for affordable mags but in my humble opinion complicates the machine and adds another level of potential failure. That said, I have not played with one yet so I may be missing the boat.
My only big standard with any AK, but especially in 5.56 is chrome lined barrel. I am the same in my AR's as well. I have found over the years that steel cases, lacquered and poly perform magnitues more reliable in a chrome chamber than any other setup.
I once found a rusted shut Chinese SKS action in a barrel at a surplus store. Soaked in diesel oil for a week. beat it apart. Found the crome lined barrel to be pristine on the inside. scrubbed it, replaced springs and wood and it runs perfectly. All of my "combat", "SHTF", "who knows" guns have a chrome bores now. I digress but that is part of my reasoning.
5.45 AK's are having the more recent problems of high cost for the rifle itself, cost of magazines, and cost of ammo. A basic 5.45 AK will run you $1500 - 2k in today's market. Real surplus mags will be $25-50 each. Aftermarket mags are cheaper and reflest this in broken locking tabs and cracked feed lips. I use Magpuls in my 74 as a budget "stack deep" option but have true surplus mags in my "go to" stash. Ammo is stupid expensive right now. It used to be dirt cheap, like really dirt cheap but with import bans, wars, lack of domesitc support, that ship has sailed. Reloading isn't much better. I have/can find bullets, dies, primers, powder, just no cases. Hornady ran some a ways back but they haven't been instock of well over a year anywhere.
7.62 AK's are still under $1k for basic options. I prefer imported AK's to domestic ones but that is only my preference, your's might differ. Mags are still cheap as well at less than $10 each of you buy bulk even for surplus Euro steel mags which are 100% relaible if not dented, rusted or otherwise damaged. Plenty of polymer options as well. Just spend extra on ones with steel reinforcements. I have a box of broken cheap plastic mags to attest to this. 7.62x39 ammo while more expensive than it used to be is still widely available. Imported and domestic alike. There are plenty of offers to the reloader. I can usually find plenty of cases, primers, and powder, I just have a difficult time in bullets unless I want to load hunting ammo.
All that said, most any AK is good option for your Mad Max needs. Just have to firgure in the nuances.
Sorry I got winded on you but I love my AK's if you didn't notice. Lots to chew on there but I hope that helps.
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8 hours ago, shadyduk1979 said:
Well that's neat
Well, it was "build your owns" but now the gooberment is messing that up.
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I sure haven't seen one in a long time. That market has mostly dried up. Not even really seeing milsurps in any quantity at gunshows any longer. The days of barrels full of mosins, stack of sks's, wall of improted AK's, mausers, springfields are long gone I am afraid. The prices on them these days kinda killed it. All you are left with is guys parting out thier collections at double what a new production, better performing gun goes for. Those of us who really appriciate the smell, look and feel of old wood and cosmoline but not of deep pockets are a thing of the past.
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8 hours ago, MacGyver said:
Don’t screw with postal inspectors. Seriously.
They’ll find you.
Unless it's a check someone sent or some ultra rare gun part I ordered. It can end up at the neighbors house or down in the holler, who knows some days.
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Actually they won't. Not indending to disgourge you though. The reason the book above stops at 2000 and the other is 2000 specific is after 2000 Jeep used Chrysler/Mitsubishi engines. Prior they were AMC engines. 2000 was the transition year and depending could have both pre and post transition parts in it. It's quite a pain. My TJ is a 2000 and it sucks, LOL. AMC engine mated to a Chrysler tansmission. I replaced the engine and trans a couple years ago. Was quite the hassle getting parts. Had to use a mix of 99 and 01 parts from the parts store to get it done. I have owned it since 2005 and has been paid off so long I just keep chugging it along. Call me crazy/sentimental, or just mental. HAHAHA.
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Love the Yooper site. Saved on my phone for quick access while out poking around. I also keep this one too. The best guide I have found for looking at surpluss 7.62x39 headstamps:
http://www.dave-cushman.net/shot/762x39_cartridge.html
Us old guys aren't always smart, we just know where to find sh*t, LOL
As for up above, I never understood why people have to take one of the most robust and reliable semi-auto rifle designs ever mass produced and mess with it. The only unreliable SKS's I have ever encountered were ones with aftermarket "upgrades" in them.
Did grab a really nice Chinese Public Security (secret police) SKS still in the cosmoline at a tiny little garage FFL guy in KY last year, $350 OTD.
Some day I will locate my grail Romanian SKS though...
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18 hours ago, swiley383 said:
Well no Luck at the gun show. Did see a couple Tisan but prices seemed way high had some decent price on some Kimber LW but more than I had to spend. I will keep looking.
Short drive for you. We have a little pawn shop on Hwy 79 here in Dover. I was in there yesterday and they had a RIA 1911 in the case for $350ish. This was right at closing so should still be there on Monday when they open up.
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What are the specs of the mosin? Did you by chance save the original stock and bottom metal?
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I think iether option is great. I like gen 3's myself over gen 4's but that is merely personal preference. Don't stress over night sights. In my experience the tritium will be faded beyond use on all surplus trade-ins (10 year life). Glock factory tritium sights are cheap, less than $100 for various options and instock many places. This is the bennefit of the proliferation of Glock pistols. Aftermarket support in parts, accesories, magazines, supplies, Glock trained armorers are plentiful. I keep a gen 3 17 on the nightstand. I have owned it for many years. Only thing I have ever done is replace the tritium when mine faded and ghost 3.5 trigger bar with rounded plunger. I clean it when needed and it has never once failed me. Ammo being what is for everyone, reloading is definately your solution.
Oh, I wanted to add, both pictured are Austrian guns. This is important as Austrian made Glocks have a more resiliant finish than the US made Glocks, This is due to the Tenifer process in the US is not allowed due to EPA reasons but they can still do the original formula in Europe. If you browse pawn shops for used Glocks, you will notice all the ones with the finish worn off (not removed) are US made Glocks. The Austrian ones, even going back to Gen 1, are still likely to have most of the finish left. Make sure when you order that you are getting an Austrian one.
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2022 Season College Football Thread!
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First Vols game I watched since moving here. Damn that was a butt woopin'. My old home town team (Boise State) lost last night to. I just need to quit watching CFB evidentally on TV. LOL