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Car carry on campuses in KY. http://www.kentucky.com/454/story/288884.html

Just FYI - anyone interested in this matter can visit the forums at http://www.georgiapacking.org/ & http://www.georgiacarry.org

If we lived in a perfect world we would not have the need for guns. But since we don't, we have to battle and protect our 2nd amendment rights. So what we face currently in Georgia with HB 89 is two groups with rights - one being property/business owners and the other being legal GFL holders - and the NRA attempting to speak on behalf of it's Georgia members. Should one set of rights be allowed to trample on another? It's not that we GFL holders would not welcome this privilege, it is just unrealistic to think that property/business owners would set aside their rights. This bill has been attempted in the past and has failed. The GFL holders & NRA members know that HB 915 would go much further to benefit GFL holders than would NRA's HB 89. Let's assume that one is allowed to carry in their carry to place of employment. It is not going to benefit the GFL holder much in his/her vehicle if the gun is needed. But removing a public gathering clause is a huge benefit to all GFL holders. One example is carrying within 100' of a city bus stop - I would no longer be guilty of a crime. Another would be the protection of one's self & loved ones in a family restaurant that serves alcohol. HB 915 would also allow for campus carry - but I think that portion will get yanked. HB 89 is working it's way through - starting to lose some of it's original structure. Like I said earlier, I would love to be able to carry any place and any time - but I don't know if trumping another's rights is an effective way to reach this goal. But the point is the NRA has failed us in Georgia and in other areas of the nation - including DC. jmo

The NRA is pushing GA HB 89 which would FORCE private property owners and private business owners to allow gun carry on their property. This, in most of GFL holder's opinions make the 2nd amendment overbearing on individual property & business owners. I own a business and I want to retain my right to say who can or cannot carry as an employee and even a customer. We have GA HB 915 that would remove the "Public Gathering" clause. This would open up carrying in restaurants that serve alcohol, carrying in churches, carrying at sporting events, etc. But the issue is the NRA will not support HB 915 - but continues to support HB 89 which has no chance of passing. Gov. Perdue has just made a statement opposing HB89. They desire to hinder a great bill (HB 915). It's not that we in Georgia do not desire to carry on private property - but rather respect the rights of private property/business owners - this HB 89 was designed for employees vs. employers - but would apply to any private entity. Here is a blog from another GA NRA member http://lonelymachines.org/2008/01/06/why-im-leaving-the-nra/

Not posted nor does most events have any alcohol sales. I would not OC there - but I would feel comfortable CCing there.

I have the Glock 27 - the 26's brother in .40 . I like it - but I wish I had my 23 back. To be honest the subcompact does not save that much over the compact version. But it shoots very well, conceals well and eats everything I feed to it. It's hard to beat a Glock in any cal or size.

David, maybe you can contact your Georgia counterparts. Here in Georgia the NRA has betrayed it's members. They (NRA) are pushing their own agenda with GA HB 89 (car carry or parking lot bill) - an attempt to force private property owners and private business owners to allow carrying of firearms to be kept in a gun owner's automobile while on company property. The MAJORITY of gun owners and NRA members here in GA believe it should be left up to the private property/business owners. The NRA is de-railing HB 915 which Georgia gun owners & GA NRA members are pushing for. This HB 915 will give GA GFL holders much more freedom by doing away with the "Public Gathering" clause. It would seem to me that the NRA would solicit it's members opinions. I have made several large contributions to the TN Friends of the NRA as my business is in TN. I am denouncing the NRA, have let my membership lapse and am encouraging other members to do the same until the NRA does an about face! The NRA has lost countless members here in GA. The damage done here in GA will only be repaired by a total overhaul of the NRA from starting from the top! Maybe if they got on board with GA HB 915 they could save some integrity, reputation and members in the state of GA. Come on NRA, want to retain members? Get on board with what you membership base desires.

For me it's a Glock 26 or 27 - If I need to go lighter and thinner it's the Kel-Tec PF9. There is nothing wrong with carrying a Glock for CCW. There are really many choices - even in the $400 range - and good choices at that. I know it's not in your price range - but I have had my eyes on the Springfield EMP - what a sweet gun. Have fun on your quest. Two things I like shopping for - tools & firearms. Nothing like knowing you have some money burning a hole in your pocket waiting for that perfect gun.

There were guns, then there were Glocks. Although I have many different brands, the thing I love about Glocks is they work and they work, then they work again and again.

I have a Llama 1911 9mm. Had it for years and still works great. Great for having fun at the range without taking a hard hit on the wallet.

Sweet looking gun. Seems to be hot sellers around our neck of the woods.

I like the concept. Although I don't know how pratical it might be. But like someone else stated - carry gun during the week and a competion gun on the weekend. My question is how much?

I got my PF9 for around that price at a gun show New In Box. Gun show was in Chattanooga (East Ridge), I live in GA - so the TN dealer ran it through a GA dealer at the show - no sales tax, no background check fee (with a GFL you never have to have a background check) and out the door for a fair amount less than $300 out of pocket. Not too bad. The only thing I would recommend is make sure that you get a later serial # PF9 if you buy used - earlier models had some issues - but they come with a life time warranty. But the gun shoots decent. It is not a range gun - meaning you probaly won't enjoy shooting more thn 2-3 mags through it at a time. I have not had a issue yet. Probably put some where around 100 rounds through it. It is light, it is thin, it conceals better than any other 9mm I have tried. I alternate +P loads in the mag. For a reliable conealment gun with a decent load, affordable price - in my opinion you can't go wrong. Will I sell off my Glocks, Walther, 1911s in lieu of the PF9? No way - it just fills another niche when concealment and/or size & weight would be a factor.

No Signs at the few POs I have been in around Chattanooga

I have the CTAC, MTAC & Crossbreed for different guns. I just sent back my CTAC today - totally uncomfortable - you need to wear an under shirt because of the kydex against the skin. The MTAC is better, but the Crossbreed is by far the most comfortable and conceals just as well as the MTAC - and is more flexible. The MTAC has pluses too - like the interchangable shells for different guns.

Not eerie - just a small world. When we moved to Dallas, TX we ran into someone that lived in the small town as we did in Campbell County TN. Never met them before. Went to Detroit a couple of years ago and ran into a girl that was in our high school class - she was working at Wal-Mart. I have been shooting a fair amount at John's Mountain here in GA- public range - not as close in distance as I would like.

Campbell County - private property. Sometimes we go up to the Oneida exit - when there is not open hunts going on.

Ringgold - just a hop, skip & a jump away from Lafayette. Someone just told me today of a range they use to shoot at in LaFayette or close by. I was thinking of checking it out.

I like the Blackhawk CQC w/Serpa - It comes with equipped to carry either paddle or belt. Adjustable cant. I love mine. In cold weather I can still conceal it if I want with a light jacket.

Just across the border from Chattanooga. Live in GA - work in TN. Shoot in TN quite often - mainly north of Knoxville. NRA & Georgia Carry Member. Glad to have found you guys. Looks like you have a good group participation going. Mainly a Glock dude - but I have an assortment firearms.