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  1. When I walk into a place of business, I don't stop and scan the storefront for a posting. If I happen to see a sign I'll take note, but I'm not pausing before I go in to look. 

    I know I have walked into a place of business and noticed a posting on the way out that I didn't see on the way in.

    At the end of the day, don't do anything stupid while you are in there and there is a 99.9% chance nothing will happen, as long as you are concealed. I've talked to several local officers, the Police Chief, and the Sheriff of my town. We are semi-rural and they have all told me that they aren't looking to cause trouble with people carrying past a properly posted place, as long as the property owner doesn't push too hard. If the property owner demands action, they will have to charge you with something, because it is the law. Even then you may not be convicted, or likely reduced down to something much less severe. All that being said, your mileage may vary, and it all depends on the local attitude of law enforcement, the DA, and the Judges. I would say things like this could have drastic different outcomes when you compare my relatively small town with places like Nashville and Memphis. 

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  2. There is no gun registration in TN. You do fill out a background check when you buy a gun from a FFL, but that is just for the background check. You are free to sell or give that gun to anybody, unless you know they are a felon or underage.

    Now having said all that, they can trace a gun down if it’s used in a crime. That is the only issue you’ll run into with having your name on a background check that is tied to a gun.

  3. On 8/3/2022 at 7:41 PM, Omega said:

    Seems there may be a way to deal with them if they come a knocking.

     

    There are quite a few Sheriffs and Police Chiefs in TN that say that they are against a lot of things the Feds and their law enforcement do. By saying that, most of them mean they will not assist federal law enforcement, but it a whole other level to actually hold them accountable. We need more local law enforcement like this guy.  

  4. If this does somehow pass the Senate, I'm pretty sure there will be constitutional issues. Congressman Dan Bishop (R-NC) got Jerry Nadler to admit on record in a hearing that the bill's goal was to restrict guns "in common use". That comment goes directly against prior Supreme Court rulings. The Chairman of the committee was banging the gavel as Jerry was speaking to try to get him to shut up, because he knew the damage Jerry was causing to the bill. Lol   

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  5. On 7/22/2022 at 9:56 PM, StephenB said:

    Based on my reading of the law, I understand that carrying in a place that is properly posted to prohibit guns is a misdemeanor and no more than $500 fine.  I typically do not carry where posted but movie theaters make me nervous.  If I ever did carry in such a place, am I correct in that the worse that could happen is the $500 fine and I would not lose my enhanced carry permit?

    Also, for those who live near the border and go into northern MS, can you provide information on the penalty for carrying in a posted establishment (thinking movie theaters again) if you have an enhanced carry permit in TN?

    Thank you

    I don't know the exact legal ramifications for carrying past a sign, but I usually either choose not to go or carry anyway. I know I've talked to a local DA and Sheriff and they aren't really looking to prosecute somebody with this. "Off the record" I was told that unless the establishment really pushes it, it will likely be dropped on a local level. This just goes for carrying past a sign, you reach another level when you carry in another prohibited place like a school or court house.

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  6. Wish they would take the force of law away from signs here in TN. I think it is possible to get the law changed, but you'll hear certain people scream bloody murder about it.

    The media isn't wanting to talk too much about this incident, the outcome doesn't fit their narrative. When they go to yelling gun control because of the active shooter, they contradict themselves if they acknowledge the outcome.  

  7. On 7/13/2022 at 8:14 PM, Links2k said:

    I think regardless who heads the ATF they will never be a friend of gun owners.  It’s the nature of the job. 

    I met a guy one time and got to know him and knew him quite a while before I found out he was ATF. Great guy, but after I found out he was ATF I had to cut ties with him. Just couldn't trust him, because even though he seemed like a great guy, I bet he could turn pretty quick if he smelled something with you. I question the motives of anybody that would even want that job.

    Now some of you would say that if you aren't doing anything wrong there is nothing to worry about, but I would submit that almost everybody that has ever owned firearms has violated a firearm law at some point. 

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  8. I hope they do whatever they need to do to keep other States satisfied and maintain reciprocity. My permit doesn’t do a whole lot within the boarders of the State, but it is golden to be able to carry in other States.

  9. 23 hours ago, Snaveba said:

    Well, I have not personally read anything on the TGO that I think should prevent an individual from getting a CCP.  We all have our differing opinions, and levels of enthusiasm, but I feel that the Mods on the TGO (tip of the hat) as well as the established members are fairly reasonable thinking individuals and would recognize the kind of extreme rhetoric that might be a precursor to violence and intervene. 

    You’d probably be surprised at what NY officials would deem “disqualifying speech”.

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  10. On 7/2/2022 at 6:49 AM, Darrell said:

    I read this morning that NY's new handgun bill requires CCP applicants to turn over all social media accounts for evaluation. I suppose that TGN counts as social media, and I wonder how the NY evaluators would look at comments that people make on a similar forum. My guess is that more law suits are coming soon.

    I agree, more lawsuits, but it’s a shame you have to file suit to have your rights.

    They will have to weasel this new lawsuit all the way to the Supreme Court, the new law will get shot down, and then they will just make another unconstitutional law, and the cycle continues. Meanwhile, the people filing these suits are going broke with legal fees.

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  11. 11 hours ago, E4 No More said:

    The Justice Department doesn't prosecute contempt of court charges; the judge does.

    So the justices are going to all plié in a car and go to NY to arrest Eric Adams?

    A Judge can make any ruling he wants to, but if you don’t have anybody to enforce the ruling, it doesn’t mean much. Kind of like when President Jackson told the Supreme Court “You’ve made your ruling, now enforce it”, and they didn’t do a thing.

    I would like nothing more than to see the NY mayor and others be brought to justice, but I don’t see it happening with the current administration.

  12. On 6/27/2022 at 8:15 AM, E4 No More said:

    Any judge can hold someone in contempt of court for just about any reason. It violates the 1st, (IMHO), and they do not need the justice department to enforce it. If the FBI refused they could also be held in contempt. I don't think anyone wants to test that with the SC.

    At the end of the day though, if the Biden Justice Department doesn't want to prosecute, contempt of court doesn't mean much. If NY ignores the ruling, do you really think the Biden Justice Department would go after them? Even if the FBI was held in contempt, there is nobody to arrest them. 

  13. 17 hours ago, Whisper said:

    I don't agree on this.  I think yesterday's Supreme Court ruling is going to provoke a flurry of lawsuits against existing gun laws and that new laws will all be subject to careful scrutiny.  There are elements of the current gun bill (dealing with mental health and juvenile criminal records) that actually might be helpful, and I'm thinking now that the egregious elements of any new gun law will be vigorously contested.  Our gun rights organizations will have fertile ground for potential lawsuits.  It's a great day in America.

    Cheers,

    Whisper

    Well, not having a law to have to fight in the courts is better than having a new law we will have to fight. I agree that there are segments of the new law that could be successfully challenged in court, but getting all the way to the supreme court takes a long time, and a lot of resources.

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