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Can the saiga accept all standard Hi cap Mags?
To meet 922r, the Saiga has to be modified to use standard AK hi-cap mags. Its a fairly easy conversion if you take your time.
There are now aftermarket Saiga hi-cap mags available, but they are pricey. By the time you buy a few of them, you end up paying more than the price to do the conversion.
Regardless of what you do, you can't go wrong with a Saiga.
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I've got 3 WASR10's and have never had a problem with any of them. You used to be able to pick them up for under $300.
A lot of WASR's have a nut welded on the end of the barrel to meet the post-ban restrictions. Its easy to cut through the weld with a Dremel...remove the not, and then add a brake on the threaded barrel.
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Steyrs are great guns. I have a M9 and a M40 and love them both. CDNN has the updated MA1's available cheap (they may have sold out by now).
The trap sights take a little getting used to, but once you do they work fine.
Check out www.steyrclub for lots more info.
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I wasn't comfortable with the Warsaw-length stock on my AK, so I swapped it for a NATO-length, plus added a 1" butt pad. I really could tell the difference after the mods.
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I'm gonna try to go Saturday afternoon.
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I know Armalite owns Eagle Arms, but is there any difference in the two brands? I'm thinking about ordering a AR upper...just don't know much about the Eagle line. Thx/
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Rifle - $280 (I saw a few at the show this weekend, but they started at $375)
Ace stock and internal block - $105
Trigger group, shepard's crook and saw grip - $50
Pistol grip nut - $5
When all is said and done, about $440 for a rifle out of the Izhmash factory + the cost of mags. You could obviously save a few bucks if you went with the Tapco plastic stock instead of the Ace. I've found that Brownells has fantastic prices if you register on their site. I did that and now all my prices are 15-30% off list for some reason...
Oh yea, http://forum.saiga-12.com/ is a great resource for these guns and conversions.
Did you not have to put a feed ramp in yours for the AK mags? I I did mine about a year ago and used the $20 kit that you buy from the Saiga forum. Works great.
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...or, a bunch of customers could just amazingly show up at the same time
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I saw a Marlin 30/30 in good shape for $285 the other day. I almost bought it, but I don't have any idea if that is a good price or not. Anyone know?
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I joined this week, along with two friends. Maybe we can put together a TGO shoot there sometime.
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Does anyone know of any dealers in the Knoxville area that sell Saigas? I was about to order a .223 to keep my X 39 company, but want to try and "buy local" first.
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I recently moved to Tennessee from Virginia, where I had a VA CHP. Virginia does not formally require a range test of any kind...just proof of competency. That requirement can be met by sitting through a three hour handgun safety class at a gun show (as long as you get some type of certificate to prove that you were there).
Now, to get a TN permit, I just had to pay $50 and provide documentation that my fingerprints had been taken in Virginia.
So, it is possible to get a TN permit without ever have firing a shot. I doubt that has ever happened...but it is possible.
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Anyone know if you can bring a guest for free if you are a member?
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I applied in mid-January.....received it April 22.
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I really like Ruger, but I swear they just can't get it right when it comes to introducing a new handgun. Their P345 really felt and looked great when it came out two or three years ago, but the first several thousand of them had lots of problems. Now, here we go again. Its a good thing Rugers warranty service is so good.
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I went to buy some shotgun shells this week and was really surprised that they have gone up too to around $7 a box for the "cheap stuff".
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I put off building my first lower until someone could help me. Then this week I said screw it, I'll try it myself and see what happens. It really wasn't hard at all. Between the two sets of instructions on ARFCOM you can breeze right through it. As promised, the only real pain was the spring & detente on the front pivot pin. Someone suggested doing that one under a blanket to make it easier to find when it launches...that was a very helpful tip. After five or six tries I finally managed to hold it in long enough to get the pivot pin inserted. What a PITA.
I tapped all the other pins in using a punch and the handle of a screwdriver....didn't even use a hammer. Lowes sells a 3-pack of punches for $10 that worked real well.
Anyway, everything seems to work. I think my next lower assembly will be about a 20 minute job.
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Will a dremel do the trick?
I used a Dremel a lot on mine, both for drilling and for cutting the receiver to move the trigger. My little drill press was also very helpful.
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Auburn how did you like it once everything was finished? Im sure it looks better, but what about actual shoot-ability? I have a 16" 7.62x39 with skeletal stock on the way.
Luv it! Even with the conversion it never jams and is dead-on accurate. I still gotta get the barrel threaded to put a AK74 brake on it, then it will be done. I tried one of the pin-on converters that completely sucked.
I'm thinking about getting another Saiga in 223 with a 20 inch barrel.
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This is not directed at you, Auburn, in any way, unless of course you're in the "conversion" business.
Nah, I'm not in the business. I just read way to many opinions about what you must/should/can/or could do to a Saiga on the Saiga forum.
I went ahead and did the full conversion on mine with fire control group, pistol grip, etc using US parts. -
It's easy to make the Saiga accept regular AK mags.
Install a bullet guide, file down mag release to accept the AK mags.
Takes about 30 minutes to do.
There's much to be said about leaving the Saiga as is (with the exception of adding the bullet guide).
It appears more as a "Sporting Rifle" and would draw less attention than an EBR. You can still use the standard 10 rd magazine and if need be always slap in a 30 rd mag.
One of my stock Saigas in 16" barrel is only 1" longer than my SKS Chinese 16" Paratrooper.
While I would buy a VZ58 at a decent price for 450 or so, to me there's no comparison for value. The Saiga wins.
Steve
Unless I'm mistaken, just the hi-cap conversion you describe makes the Saiga illegal per 922r. You also have to add the required number of US parts. I've also seen factory Saiga hi cap mags for $50, so I'm not sure how that changes things.
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The Saiga is a geat rifle, however you will need to do the conversion job on it if you want to use hi-cap mags to avoid 922r issues. That adds a bit to the price, but it is still a great bargain. I really like mine.
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This is a little more than you quoted, but the Sightmark Aimpoint clone seems to get decent reviews for casual use. Cost is $99 at Talon Arms.
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I went ahead and did the full conversion on mine with fire control group, pistol grip, etc using US parts.
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