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Sig 1911 Tac Ops Tac pac.

Well it's time to update this old thread. I've put close to 1000 rds of FMJ ammo through this thing. Some of it nice ammo..some of it scary looking steel case or worse. Not a single malfunction. IT seems my worries were over nothing and again I am grateful for this community contributing to this topic of conversation. You guys rock!

I'm in Clarksville and a local shop is selling a Black Forge BF15 Tier 3 for $649 and they also provide a 15% military discount. I've done LOTS of searching on the internet and have come up with nothing useful. I'm trying to see how these are performing int he real world and who is having problems and why as I am considering purchasing one. I'm not target shooter, but I would like an AR for a jack of all trades gun because well I'm familiar with the platform from being in the military.    Anyone have any feedback on these?   Most of what I found on the internet is just advertisements or people saying dont buy it, its not expensive enough to be good.

sorry I ghost ot back to this thread so late. I was sent home because my father passed. I was not at airborne but I did spend a few hours there at night on the lz there on several occasions Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

Just waiting for my 1911 to arrive:) Thanks fir all of the feedback. I will add mine once it gets here. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

Does it fit M44s I wonder? Is it reversible? I have a slow connection in Afghanistan, so  I cant watch the video or anything.

I feel your pain. I have to wait until September for my custom SIG 1911.

Hot damn thats pricey. I like it though. It eliminates the low capacity argument quite handily.

How is the size of the grips compared to a  single stack 45 acp model?

http://news.yahoo.com/national-gun-fever-shows-no-sign-breaking-050024304.html     NATIONAL GUN FEVER SHOWS NO SIGN OF BREAKING By Cynthia Tucker | Cynthia Tucker â€“ 18 hrs ago Email Share466 1 Print   Apparently, there will be no ban on assault weapons.   Never mind that Adam Lanza used a Bushmaster AR-15 assault-type rifle to rip apart the bodies of children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. Forget the fact that James E. Holmes, the alleged Aurora, Colo., movie theater shooter, fired, among other weapons, an AR-15.   Nor does it seem to make any difference that Jared Loughner -- the man who shot Gabby Giffords and killed six others, including a 9-year-old girl -- used a high-capacity magazine that the Clinton-era assault-weapons ban rendered illegal. A high-capacity magazine also enabled the massacre committed by Seung-Hui Cho, who killed 32 people at Virginia Tech.   The political climate has changed since the 1994 ban: Democrats have cowered before the gun lobby; the National Rifle Association has grown even more extreme; the U.S. Supreme Court has moved much further to the right. And, in the 20 years since Congress banned assault-type weapons and high-capacity magazines, Americans have heard a steady drumbeat of pro-firearms rhetoric that fetishizes the Second Amendment. In other words, the climate around firearms has gotten crazier.   Even before the current debate over more restrictive gun laws began, most political observers knew it would be difficult to get Congress to stand up to the firearms lobby. So it's no great surprise that Majority Leader Harry Reid, who runs from the shadow of the National Rifle Association, slammed the door on Sen. Dianne Feinstein's effort to re-up the assault-weapons ban.   Still, I find myself once again wondering just how bad things have to get before the fever breaks -- before the country comes to its senses on firearms. We're in the throes of a kind of madness, a mass delusion that assigns to firearms the significance of religious totems.   Many critics of an assault-weapons ban note that it would not provide any magical cure-all for the mass shootings that have plagued us over the years since Columbine. That's certainly true. But banning at least some assault-type weapons and the high-capacity magazines that feed them would be a step in the right direction. Why can't we take that step?   What would be wrong with reinstituting a ban? For 10 years -- from 1994-2004 -- an imperfect ban prohibited the sale of certain types of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. It covered only new weapons; old ones were grandfathered in, so those already in existence were available to criminals, the mentally unstable and the impulse-control-challenged. The original ban didn't prohibit easy modifications or cosmetic changes that allowed gun owners and manufactures to practically duplicate outlawed weapons. So the old law was hardly perfect.   But many law enforcement officials nevertheless supported it, declaring that it helped. It didn't end gun violence or stop mass murders or prevent suicides (which account for two-thirds of gun deaths in this country). But it prevented some killings. Isn't that worthwhile?   And the Clinton-era ban accomplished that without infringing on the rights of gun owners. They could still hunt game, protect their homes and enjoy firearms on gun ranges. The civilized world did not come to an end during those 10 years; the Second Amendment was not besmirched.   Yet, the vociferous -- nay, deranged -- leadership of the NRA has persuaded Congress that an assault-weapons ban is akin to totalitarianism. More important, it has persuaded Democrats that it has the power to end their political careers if they don't carry water for the gun lobby. After Al Gore's defeat in 2000, he and other Democrats blamed the loss partly on support for tougher gun laws. And the NRA was only too happy to take credit.   That was nonsense, of course. Gore won the popular vote and would have won the Electoral College, as well, if the ballots had been properly counted in Florida. Besides, he has only himself to blame for being a lousy candidate. But none of that seems to matter now because conventional wisdom has rewritten history.   If dead innocents -- their bodies ripped apart by bullets from an assault weapon -- couldn't persuade Congress to ban at least some of those firearms and the high-capacity magazines that feed them, the cause is lost. So is our common sense.   (Cynthia Tucker, winner of the 2007 Pulitzer Prize for commentary, is a visiting professor at the University of Georgia. She can be reached at cynthia@cynthiatucker.com.)     COPYRIGHT 2013 CYNTHIA TUCKER  

I carry one everyday when I go fly. Not my favorite pistol but it goes bang everytime and the bullet go roughly where I want them too. Its a pistol, not  a sniper rifle. Would I buy one? MAYBE, but I dont think I could pay more than about $350 for one( I dont care what market value is or isnt..its just what the M9 shooting experience is worth to ME)

That why I recommended a Mosin. Cheap as dirt, shoots straight enough to get a deer at a reasonable range. Round is big enough to do it. That or head shots with the AR on the deer?

Take deer hunting our of the equation, I would pick the AR everytime.  Just my 2 cents.   I cant see any of the other situations where the bolt gun would be better. I also cant think of any situation where you would be engaging past 500m in a REALISTIC scenario, defensive anyways. If you need a second heavy hitting gun..just get a mosin and keep it handy.

I want to buy a Makarov or a Tokarev. Dont care which, I do want one soon though. Both awesome little guns.

VMETS? Ill have to research that. Ive been in 9 years so far, never heard of that.

Already in motion. Thank  you again.

Dang. I completely missed the info in that link somehow in my searching. *DOH*     Thanks.

Yes. I have. Do they just need a range card? Or?

I'm active duty military, and I am wondering EXACTLY what documents need to be submitted and how. I've looked on the website and it seems fairly vague about the entire process.(I'm  in the military so I'm used to seeing exact requirements.) Anyone gotten a HCP recently in Montgomery county? Any advice, information is appreciated.

What is insurance and stuff like on these?

I could resist the draw no longer.   Sig 1911 w/rail in the "tac pac" $900 out the door.   Range reports to follow once I return from Ah-crap-istan

The real question is why hasnt this been done. It would "help" both sides if nothing changed regulation wise. Computer databases are easier/cheaper to monitor and maintain than paper files. More accurate too. And I mena...How great would it be able to just walk in and buy a SBR(which again is dumb to to have as a NFA item..especially when they make pistols...LOL)

I agree. Making suppressors NFA items is like making motorcycle mufflers NFA items. LOL

Easy. There are so many semi autos on the street...its almost as smart to just make it as easy to buy a pistol as it is a gallon of milk...because it would make about as  much difference. 

He is of the view that suppressors shouldnt be any more difficult to buy than a pistol or rifle. I am as well. We are both on the same page that autos shouldnt be as ridiculous to get but somehow we should maintain the ability to keep a lid on them so they ont become common on the street, and then into the wrong hands as easily.