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On 5/7/2023 at 4:27 PM, Luckyforward said:
https://abc30.com/texas-shooting-allen-outlets-mall/13220871/
This local news site from there says he was removed from the Army in 2008 because of mental health concerns.
2008 was a time when the Army was so hard up for able bodies, every unit deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan had a stop loss order to prevent people from ETS'ing during the deployment (yours truly included), and the words "moral waiver" entered our lexicon to help us understand the malcontents who a few years ago wouldn't have qualified arriving to the unit.
I shutter to think about how loud the klaxons were sounding to make the Army kick this guy out in the middle of all that. Especially if he was in a line unit.
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Using a flint was something I learned as a Cub Scout way back when. Pretty hard to beat for all around utility, plus some small, lightweight, and cheap kit. Still keep the lesson in mind even when I can use easier methods.
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The veneer of mental stability is a lot thinner than people are comfortable acknowledging. I say this as someone who has had to fight off "the grey" as as Jay Glazer calls it because it's part of my genetic code, apparently.
Reach out to someone if you need that anchor point, from someone you trust, a stranger if needed, a professional if you have the time...pretend your life depends on it, because it might.
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This would have been questionable inside the store. Him following her out to the parking spot is not going to look good.
Chuck has the right of it.
14 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:I get it, but no dude. Just no.
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1 hour ago, BigK said:
"Concessions for the kids" is right out of the socialist/communist textbook. That's how they disarm society. Our Constitutional rights have been conceded repeatedl:
- National Firearms Act (1934)
- Federal Firearms Act (1938)
- Gun Control Act (1968)
- Firearm Owner Protection Act (1986)
- Gun-Free School Zones Act (1990)
- Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (1993)
- Federal Assault Weapons Ban (1994)
Have the anti-gun side given any concessions? Even one?
Not by choice, but everything you listed is by and large overwhelmed by Heller and McDonald, the adoption of Constitutional Carry in a lot of states, and the Bruen decision (which will be more important as time goes on).
Legally, we're in far less danger of being disarmed than at any time since the post revolutionary war period. These are salad days for gun owners unless you're fixated on full auto.
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3 hours ago, TGO David said:
It was a struggle to listen to his message and not be distracted by the delivery style. Hopefully he has strong mentors in his life that will coach him a little and help him just be himself.
He's only 27, so plenty of time. Especially now that he has national attention and a platform.
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3 hours ago, MacGyver said:
When I first saw this I thought, “well… they’re trying to take an unforced error and turn it into a rout that may land the current speaker in prison - maybe even before of the speaker that he replaced makes it to trial.”
One of two things is true - and they’re both worth considering regardless of where you sit on the political spectrum. Either they truly think that the rules don’t apply to them and they can do whatever they want. Or they see the proverbial writing on the wall and are willing to burn everything down on the way out.
Both are problematic.
Given how they handle pretty much everything else as a legislature...I'm thinking option 1, the rules not applying to them, is their motivation. The pace and fury of this legislative session is just different, though. Not sure what is driving it other than the near impotence of the TN Democratic party as a political force, or maybe a governor starting his second and last term.
Republicans driving the legislature are doing a lot more and doing it on the more extreme side of their politics it seems. Some of that is good for gun owners I suppose...but like you, I worry about Lord Acton's thoughts about absolute power.
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10 minutes ago, leroy said:
btq...
The fact that these three instigated a a mini riot within the Tennessee State House chamber knowing full well it was at the least trespassing, and at its worst an attempted mass intimidation provided the monaker " thug "... All three of these " legislators " know that. Had they been outside, I would pass it off as a " political act "... You do the " political act " thing outside the state House chambers. You debate and legislate inside. As to the " legislators chosen by their communities " thing; it looks ta me like they may have made a mistake in judgement as to who to send. The time to " give voice to the minority opinion " was during the debate before the vote and before the " demonstration "... They well knew that.
AS to " words meaning things "; you bet they do. Actions are even more powerful...
I'm generally no fan of polititians of any flavor, no matter whether local, state, or federal. This time they accidentally almost did the right thing. If they had have got Gloria Johnson, they would've hit a " Grand Slam ". It simply doesn't matter what anyone outside the state of Tennessee thinks. They can bark n howl, nothing more. This is a state matter.
leroy...
The term mini riot is quite a stretch. Far as I know it was a civil disturbance more than anything.
I actually like a reminder on occasion that when they feel like it, the people will visit legislators in their venue. I know a lot of us would support, and probably be among a crowd doing the same thing if a draconian gun control bill was coming up for a vote. Sometimes the minority needs to be forcefully vocal as part of the process. As long as they're not violent and destructive, it's political, indoors or outside.
It's not something we can abide every time and on every issue, but politicians should be afraid of some vocal and in your face feedback like we saw here, Even if I disagree with their stance and wishes, I like the passion that compelled people to give their time to a cause and make their feelings know outside of voting and donations or a Thumbs Up button.
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What an absolute and complete misread of the board by the TN GOP. They could have achieved the same effective result with censure and revocation of committee assignments done without the public fanfare. But instead they tried to send a message...the message ended up being how petty and vindictive the Tennessee Republicans are.
All they had to do was ride this out and let the groundswell taper off. Even if the shootings will change voters minds on gun rights, there are years before it would have any impact at the polls with Bill Lee just kicking off a new term and the legislature in super-majority status. Very strong odds the desire for change on guns being a #1 issue wouldn't last that long unless we (hoping not) see shootings more.
What a bunch of power drunk fools. They'll still survive in spite of themselves, but it's embarrassing to be governed by such bewildering incompetence holding that much power.
3 hours ago, leroy said:the booting of these two thugs
leroy, I would ask why you think that description of them as thugs is appropriate in this case. This was a political act, not a criminal one which is usually the general barometer for thug as a noun. I'm generally not too overbearing on the "words matter" stuff, but in this case, talking about two black men chosen by their communities who tried to give voice to a minority opinion, the words we use absolutely have an impact.
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No complaints when I've gone in the past. Standard enough on the layout and rules. As mentioned, bit pricey, but not absurdly so...just enough to make you want to train with a purpose between that and the cost of ammo.
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Two centuries later, we're still spinning around in circles it seems.
QuoteDuring this course of administration, and in order to disturb it, the artillery of the press has been levelled against us, charged with whatsoever its licentiousness could devise or dare. These abuses of an institution so important to freedom and science, are deeply to be regretted, inasmuch as they tend to lessen its usefulness, and to sap its safety; they might, indeed, have been corrected by the wholesome punishments reserved and provided by the laws of the several States against falsehood and defamation; but public duties more urgent press on the time of public servants, and the offenders have therefore been left to find their punishment in the public indignation.
Thomas Jefferson Second Inaugural Address
March 4, 1805
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59 minutes ago, TGO David said:
I guess Metro PD should have stayed off of Covenant's property and waited for a private Blackwater-type security force to show up and handle the situation. Publicly funded police departments should stay the hell out of protecting rich private school kids, right @btq96r? If their tuition doesn't cover private security, then #### 'em.
Dude, c'mon...the apples to oranges of a dedicated everyday security guard on the payroll vs. police answering a call is so far and wide it's not even a comparison.
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21 hours ago, Hozzie said:
So shouldn’t those parents get back any taxes they paid? Why not if so?
And I despise when people say someone doesn’t “need” the money. Who are you or anyone else to decide? They may work 3 jobs so they can send their kids there. Need has nothing to do with it. Again, provide equal money to every kid and let the parents decide. That is fair, no?
Heck, we spend (waste) more money per kid than just about any other nation on school. The fair share should be more than enough for any kid to find a good education if their parents gave a damn.No, they shouldn't. They didn't pay taxes just to the school then and there for the kid they removed from it in favor of a private education. This is a collective thing. A while back, we decided schools should be publicly funded for everyone...same as roads, libraries, police and fire departments, and anything else along that train of thought. Every parent with a kid in private school knew the way this works, and still elected for the private school. I've got no issues with the way that decision came about because I recognize the value of a private education over a public one in a lot of cases. But that doesn't absolve them from the collective contribution to public education.
A better way to look at this: schools are a way to ensure we have an economy a generation later. Everyone who is holding a job today and producing something deemed of economic value to society is doing so because of a school. Yes, homeschooling is responsible for some, private/religious schooling for more, but the overwhelming majority learned to read, write, do math, understand science, and history in a public school paid for by collective tax revenue. This isn't a formulation that can be traced to whomever claims a child as a dependent on taxes...it's a whole effort. We don't keep an economic foundation as a country without a public school system.
I'm not one to decide on how people spend their disposable income. But if these private schools want security, it needs to come from their own coffers, not public ones. It'll be up to the parents to decide if the added cost of security is the make or break line in the household budget. I'm guessing it will be minimal...even in the scenario where someone is working 3 jobs to send their kid to a private school. I just saw on Channel 5 one school started someone for security Thursday and the plan is to raise tuition and after school activity fees to pay for it.
There is a lot of debate to have on how much we spend for education, how it's used, and what it gets us. But this debate I'm taling about is a binary choice of whether or not to use public funds for private institution security.
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On 4/1/2023 at 2:04 PM, Johnny Rotten said:
Not sure why it's ridiculous, both of my kids went to private catholic school up to the 8th grade, I paid my tax's and didn't get squat in return.
Because you chose the parochial education for your kids. That's your prerogative. I'm open to vouchers for kids who couldn't afford tuition to a place like TCS, but this is giving money to a community that doesn't need it. At TCS, tuition for their largest attendance group (K-4) is $16.300 per their website; it's clearly not appropriate for the government to give them the same levels of support public schools get when they have parents with means supporting their institution.
Believe me, I'll be happy if private schools source private security. This isn't me thinking those kids don't deserve the protection, it's me thinking tax payments shouldn't cover it. The parents chose to remove their children to a supposedly better educational experience...the cost burden they assume doesn't stop at tuition and fees.
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5 minutes ago, TGO David said:
McNally is doing anything he can to pander to anyone who will save his job from his own nauseating proclivities. A sad old man who undoubtedly struggles to get a meager rise in his shorts from staring at scantily clad younger LGBTQ+ men on Instagram.
He's a pitiful old pervert signing on to something that he hopes will keep him employed.
That and Bill Lee is open to grant funding for private school security. I'm all for private schools having guards, but they should fund it like they do all their other operating items.
Coupled with a red flag law that's just meant to turn down the heat and we'll have taken some steps backwards.
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A death in training is every bit as tragic as a loss in combat. Hoping these families find their way to gentler days.
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41 minutes ago, Links2k said:
the new avatar
For a moment I thought it was Bass Reeves, but realized it didn't have his epic mustache.
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Some folks are going to take this in a bad way...on either side. I would just ask you to consider the following statement and my reasoning.
The guns are why we have some of problems at the level we do, and that's a risk we're assuming as a society for the protection they offer.
We can talk about all the other things that can kill, but for the same reasons we want them for our own safety, guns are just efficient for those who want to do evil. Put a modern gun into the hands of someone who is set to attack society, the potential for what we saw Monday is very easy to manufacture. A knife or something else common but deadly can't come close to the ability a gun has to create death at scale. And even some the worst people out there can't or won't participate in arm reach intimacy with violence; they need the simplicity and detachment using a gun brings as a stand off tool to perpetrate the act. Guns may not be the root of problem, but they're the tool of choice for those who embody the problem. American society has enabled that.
It's the danger of risk in a cultural philosophy that wants the population to be able to engage a corrupt and hostile government with open force. I'll mourn for those lost in this shooting and every shooting. The random brutality of the is why they are taken is a tragedy with each one gone. I'll even still say the risk we've seen and what may come isn't worth forcibly disarming the population to the point of disadvantage against our government's strength in force. But I won't shy away from acknowledging guns enabled what we saw because we've made them easy to get for our own protection of liberty.
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8 minutes ago, bersaguy said:
I read an article this morning that was a news interview from her doctor about her emotional issue and he said she should never have been able to buy a gun. That being said means she had to have lied on her application to .purchase at some point. She purchased 7 guns in I think 3 or 4 weeks at 5 different stores.
That will just be used as evidence the current system isn't sufficient to keep guns away from the mentally ill, and more control/restrictions are needed.
Not sure how comfortable I am with mental health professionals entering patient data into a federal and/or state system. Especially as it might stop people from getting help when they need it, even if they aren't the type that would do this. Where do we draw the line at personal privacy and public safety?
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I know the mother of one of the kids killed. Not well, but I know her. I can't even begin to think of how the life for her and her family life is irrevocably changed. It's just an ineffable amount of sorrow that I hope time can heal.
Some can berate the Trans community by thinking the shooter was representative of their ilk, but that's as shortsighted as those who would lump all gun owners into a mischaracterization so wide and far. You don't have to accept or appreciate their lifestyle to acknowledge yesterday was an evil act needing no further characterization.
Those officers showed what speed in a situation like this can do. A lone shooter is a threat that can be neutralized quickly enough by a few men ready to be brave when the moment calls. I'm thankful the rest of the kids and staff at that school had responders who were found to measure up to all we could have asked while answering that call.
This spreads a lot wider than that one school. I can't begin to imagine how many kids and parents had an emotional day as the perception of normal was shattered for a great many across the area.
May we never have a day like yesterday again.
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50 minutes ago, Darrell said:
That's stomach churning. Interesting, too, how early reports had this animal entering through an unlocked door.
The easiest thing to assume usually wins out absent facts. We all wanted to believe it was an unlocked door since that's a easy fix. Putting bulletproof glass in school entrances is less comforting to the human mind (and budget).
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Wish I had something more than a platitude to offer. Have a co-worker with kids in the school across the street. Would wonder where his head is today, hoping he and the wife get kids home sooner rather than later.
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Very commonly, we talk about if a homeowner is "underwater" with the value of their home against the mortgage they're in. I think we're going to get more familiar with talking about the owner of that loan being underwater with the return on capital.
Quote- Half of all mortgaged homes have first-lien interest rates at or below 3.5%, a full 3 percentage points below today’s market rate, while two-thirds are at 4% or lower
https://www.blackknightinc.com/black-knights-january-2023-mortgage-monitor/?
The banks and Fed have nobody to blame but themselves for this. The ramifications from about a decade of free money orgy via ZIRP is long overdue. It's going to be turbulent as we've seen over the last few weeks, but it's time to take the crap you can't avoid after a night out at the steakhouse.
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Also worth considering are questions about timeline for getting rid of them through a sale, and if local sales are the only option. I get you don't want your friend to get ripped off, but if holding a lot of firearms and dealing with all the unfamiliar quirks around selling and shipping aren't appealing....this may be more a fire sale compared to retail one price point wise.
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I heard from a friend that Clarksville is getting one too? I suppose I'll check it out when visiting my goddaughters and their parents after it opens.