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Thanks for the information, xtriggerman. I will give that a try. Should I try to make any adjustment in the bend of the rear mag retainer spring, item #24? A little more info... the gun is old and the mag is old. Both seem to have a little wear where the locking ears click into the side notches in the mag sides. There appears to be some wear on the bolt face, where it contacts the head of the cartridge. There's actually quite a bit of "noticeable wear" on the bolt face #58, where it engages the head of the cartridge in the magazine, to push it forward. Any thoughts? Thanks.

I suppose the sides of the stock are supposed to keep the pins in place. I'm hoping to be able to use some sturdy tape over the ends of the pins. Possibly something like the aluminum foil tape... commonly referred to as 400 MPH tape by the military. Thanks for the information, Sunfish. From what I can see on the parts diagram, there are only three parts to the trigger mechanism. Thanks again.

Have any of you removed the trigger assembly from a Savage model 342 .22 Hornet and reinstalled it? I have ordered parts from Numrich and will be disassembling and reassembling mine in about a week. I'm actually replacing the magazine retainer spring (rear), item #24, Product # 163450B, on Numrich's online diagram. In order to get the two screws out that hold this mag retainer spring, it appears that I have to remove the trigger parts, so I can get a screwdriver down in the box. I don't think the box (that holds the trigger and it's related parts) has to be removed. Currently, all of the through pins (4), have been replaced with what appears to be 3/32" aircraft aluminum rivets! So, I'm getting all new pins to replace these. It appears someone has been into the trigger before, but presently the trigger is operating just fine. I'm doing this in hopes irt will fix a "jamming" problem, when I try to chamber rounds from the magazine. There is slight wear on the two ears on this spring that engage the locking notches on the magazine. I have already bought a new magazine, as the old one has wear at these notches. It is my hope that this new spring will hold the mag fully in, all of the way, and tight. When I hold the mag in tight with my hand and cycle the bolt with the other hand, it feeds all five rounds without a hitch. Numrich's diagram does not show how these trigger parts fit together. If anyone knows where I can find a diagram of how these trigger parts fit together, I'd appreciate any and all information. These parts are down inside a metal box and have to be removed one part at a time. If anyone has seen a video on this particular trigger mechanism, please point me in the right direction. Finally, I'm not a gunsmith, and I'm not too proud to ask for help! Any helpful information that anyone can give me on this procedure will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Chuck (cjwaa1@msn.com) 615-895-5502

Rossi customer service update... still... nothing has happened! They claimed to have placed a new butt-stock on order for me, as some will recall, in October of last year!!! I contact them frequently, by phone, chat, and email... and their script is unchanged. They did say they would send me a replacement gun sometime back, but I had to send them my gun first! I asked them if they would be sending me one right back and if so, when should I expect to get the new replacement gun. I was told that they could not say when I'd get my replacement gun, even though I had sent mine back in. They even sent me a shipping label, but if it's taken almost a year... and they've been unable to produce a butt-stock... how many years for them to produce a replacement gun at my door! Us old guys don't even buy green bananas! Bottom line, I don't trust them, I don't believe them, and I don't see how they stay in business, treating customers the way they have treated me. Maybe some of you have had good customer service from them... and if you have, I consider you one of the lucky ones. If anyone has any pull at Rossi, or knows anyone at Rossi, or knows how to get them to step up to the plate and stand behind their product, I'd love to hear about it. I think Boyds makes a stock for this gun. I've even suggested they have Bouds ship me one and I'd ship my cracked one on to them. Also, I've suggested they use one of their retail sales outlets as an escrow, Wal-Mart, Cabella's, Bass Pro, or a local gun store, that have a Circuit Judge in stock. I take my gun to them and turn it in. They, in turn, give me a new one. I'd even be willing to go through a background check. They claim that they can't do business that way. They keep telling me that they don't have any guns at their factory in Miami, and can't tell me when Brazil will be sending them any guns! I don't understand how they stay in business! May Day - May Day - May Day, can anyone help? Mine is not an isolated case...check out this problem on Google and U-Tube.

Nice looking underfolder. I bought a Romanian underfolder from an individual a few months back and like it. Like you, I wasn't crazy about any folding stock, but like this one a lot. My stock is a little different from yours, but I can open and close my stock with a mag in the gun. I bought a sling at the gun show... a generic, so I'm still looking for the correct sling. A friend of mine, who is a better shot than I am, shot mine when I was checking it out, and hit a bowling pin at 100 yards, the first shot. So I think my sights are good too. I have another Romy "G" parts kit that I've had for years, that uses a regular stock. All I need to do is drive the rivets in the front and back trunnion to the receiver, and I'll have one with a regular stock. These things seem to eat any ammo you throw at them. Makes me wish I had more of them!

I need a .22 Hornet neck sizing/collet die. I am open to buying just the neck sizing die, or the full set, if it includes the neck sizing/collet die.The Reloader's Bench in Mt. Juilet didn't have one yesterday, nor the full four die set.Midway USA, and others, have new ones but they're kinda pricey. Hoping to find a used set that someone does not need anymore. Thanks for your help.

Did the coyote take off when you stopped the four wheeler? I've heard from a friend that they're not afraid of his tractor... until he stops... then they beat feet.

I've kinda stocked up on factory .22 Hornet ammo to have the brass for reloading. Most of it is 45gr Soft Point and Hollow Point, with some V-max. What is the best bullets for the .22 Hornet, for coyotes here in Tennessee? Also, does anyone have experience with "neck sizing", and if so, did it extend the life of your brass by a noticeable number of loads?

For anyone interested, I think G&L eluded to the possibility that they may cover more of the story this Sunday night, on their show between 7PM to 8PM. on 99.7 on the radio. Until we know the whole story, it seems it is almost impossible to determine if any state or federal laws have been broken or not. The details may show this incident was an effort in making a false propaganda video, to continue the liberal fight to shut down gun shows and gun stores. Hopefully, we can get the full story Sunday night... hope everyone will listen to the G&L show, on 99.7, between 7PM and 8PM and post what you take away from it on here.

They did as requested, but charged them for the service. But, they wanted to film G&L destroying the rifles, but G&L said no. G&L tried to buy the guns, but the antis said their company told them they had to be destroyed. At first, G&L thought that the guns may have been used in a suicide. After all, who would want to destroy brand new guns! I think G&L called the GS where they had been purchased, and began to put two and two together.

I was listening to the "Guns and Leather" radio show (99.7) tonight, Sunday, April 17th, 2016 and was shocked at what is going on in the Nashville area. If anyone can get a transcript of the last part of the show and post it, that would be great. It would help others understand how an anti-gun, New York company is trying to undermine the integrity of our firearm industry locally.   They can't buy firearms being out of state. Apparently, they are getting anti-gun locals to do it for them. The objective is to make up a video which portrays them walking in, buying AR-15s and a hunting rifle, and walking out minutes later. After the massive lies and smear tactics footage is shot, the New York company wants the rifles destroyed, locally. I guess they don't want them to be called in as evidence, in case this sham backfires on them.   They called, and hired, Guns and Leather to destroy these brand new, in the box, guns! Guns and Leather did not know what was going on, until they asked some questions and did some research. Maybe we can get Phil Valentine to do a special show, outing these New York scumbags for the anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment, haters they are. In good ole western movie lingo, they are trying to frame us or to set us up in the worst light.   They need to be exposed. Someone, please contact the people that can expose these lying/scamming New Yorkers. Thanks.

Modest wear on the ramp or pin from being used. any modification to the ramp by a previous owner, or age allowing the ramp spring to relax can cause poor feeding. This is not guaranteed, but likely your problem. A few years back I replaced these parts in a "340" series (one of the variations of your rifle) and this sway restored feed-up from the magazine to chamber. Numrich still advertises these parts as available, and even if they are used they may correct your feeding issue. You should be able to buy the ramp, spring and pin (you do want to replace all 3 parts) for less than $25 delivered to your address. Stumpy Stumpy, thanks for your input. I have considered doing just what you suggest and have looked the parts up on Numrich. Like you said, they show all three parts available and less than $3 each. Did you find wear on yours when you replaced them? What caliber was your "340"? Mine is a .22 Hornet. The front end of the cartridge wobbles all over the place on it's way to the feed/bullet ramp.I really like the little rifle and hope I can get this worked out. Update: I ordered the ramp, pin, and spring. Any words of wisdom, or tricks of the trade on changing them? For instance... is the pin smaller in diameter on one end than it is on the other. Also, looks like the ramp can be installed 180 degrees wrong! I plan to install the new ramp just like the old one... hoping that no one has turned the one that's in there around 180 degrees. Thanks.

Graycrait, you're on to something there. It will feed one round better than it will if the mag is full. It acts like the spring tension on a full mag is causing a lot more drag friction on the head, allowing the bullet to be pushed down in the front. I've cleaned the mags, with them disassembled. I've even switched the leaf springs around in the mag, to see if it would help. It did not. It seems that the instability of the front of the round, comes from the cartridge rim being larger in diameter than the case body. But... it must have worked fine at sometime, otherwise Savage wouldn't have been able to sell them. New mag didn't help! Thanks.

Roverboy, I actually bought a brand new magazine and it has the same feeding problems. Both mags allow a great deal of side to side and up and down movement of the nose of the cartridge as it's pushed toward the bullet ramp by the bolt. V-Max bullets, with the more pointed nose, feed fine. It's the SP and HP bullets that give me the problem. Thanks.

Yeah Gregintenn, I've checked that and they seem to be in as far as they will go. I will check the mag hold bracket for wear though. I believe they're available from Numrich, if I need one. Thanks.

Actually, the bullet ramp moves as the nose of the bullet contacts the edge of it. Some of the movement of the bullet nose may be guided by adjustment of the magazine lips. But, I bought a new mag, in hopes that it would solve the problem, but the new mag feeds worse than the old one. I'm considering taking the gun apart and inspecting for wear of the bullet ramp on the pin, If all is good there, I'm considering gently contouring the sharp edge off of the upper surface of the leading edge of the ramp. If the bullet head didn't wabble from side to side, or down, as the bolt pushes it towards the guide ramp, I wouldn't have a problem.

I hope this hasn't been covered before. If it has, someone point me in the right direction and I'll shut up and go read and learn.   I've got a Savage 342 chambered in 22 Hornet. It's a bolt action, box magazine fed rifle, built sometime between 1950 and 1955. I bought it from another party that claims to have not shot it in the last 15 years. So, any questions asked at time of purchase, beyond physically looking at it, were pretty much a moot point. So, I wanted it and bought it, without ever firing or even cycling it. This was a few months ago and no use until recently.   Flash forward to now, and I have experienced feeding problems with factory ammo, particularly the more blunt nose "soft point and hollow point" ammo. The real pointy bullets... V-Max, fiber tipped sharp nosed bullets cycle just fine. Upon observing the bullet leaving the mag and traveling forward, the nose will catch on the front edge if the "spring loaded" small feed ramp. NOTE: Seems I do remember mentioning this on here before, but still have the problem. I'll apologize and say that senility and forgetfulness is not kind to us old codgers!   Anyway, the feed ramp is a small formed piece of metal, mounted on a pin with a spring pushing the top toward the oncoming round. I'm no gun designer, but it looks to me if the feed ramp had been wider and longer, all of the feed problems could have been averted. I have not contacted Savage to see if there is a "new and improved" version of this feed ramp, as a replacement or in later versions of the bolt action .22 Hornets.   My question is, have any others ran into this problem, and if so, how did you fix it? Has anyone replaced one of these feed ramps before and did it solve the feeding problem? If anyone has a late model... like a Savage 25 Walking Varminter, in .22 Hornet, would you please look at your feed ramp and tell me if it's on a pin with a spring? If you could take a pic, it would be appreciated. Thanks to one and all with helpful suggestions... short of "sell it"!

Thanks for the additional info. If they let me keep the stock I'll definitely be giving it a try. A thought just crossed my mind... if they change wood on the buttstock, the forearm may not match the buttstock. Hopefully, if it's that much of a miss-match, they'll send me a new forearm too. But like Oh Shoot says, it could be forever before I see anything from Rossie.

Graycrait,   It sounds like this is some good wood glue. Like I said, I only have hairline cracks and haven't removed the stock to see if they're all the way through. This being said, if I'm allowed to keep the stock after I get the new one, I'll probably attempt a repair. I have a concern about trying to open these cracks mechanically, so I hope that this glue is capable of "wicking" into the crack. I may not get a chance to find out, as they may require me to put the cracked stock in the box and send it back to them. Right now, I'd like to see my new replacement stock show up!

Yeah, OS, I guess that is exactly what I'm experiencing now. I have been waiting since October of last year. The Circuit Judge stock looks a lot like my Thompson Center Contender stocks to me. So, it looks like they could get the same manufacturer to build stocks for them.... they put me off for the longest, saying they were looking for a US manufacturer. Don't know what the replacement stock will be made out of, but it would be nice if it was walnut....which I highly doubt it will be.

Graycrait, thanks for the heads up on this product. Currently, the cracks in my butt-stock are only hairline cracks. They are hard to see, unless you know they are there and are looking for them. I didn't find them myself! I met a guy to do a gun trade, and when he was visually inspecting my Circuit Judge he said, "your stock is cracked"... to which I replied, "no way". His eyesight is better than my tired old eyes, so he proceeded to show me where it was cracked. I honestly didn't know it was cracked, especially with so few rounds through it. I tell you all of this to ask if this product will repair these hairline cracks? At one time I considered asking them for the "Tuffy" setup furniture, but found out it was short... like a youth stock.

Robtattoo, I'm encouraged to hear you've had good service from their customer service department. I've had excellent service from the "Taurus" side customer service, in the past. I don't know if the Taurus/Rossi relationship is joined at the hip, or if it's two separate entities, but I'd like to have a little more of that Taurus excellent customer service!

Actually, they never made that offer and honestly, I'm probably a bit old fashioned, but I prefer wood on all of my guns, except those that will take a beating in the field... duck hunting and varmint hunting mostly. Also, the CS rep said that they were getting a much better wood than what they used before that was from Brazil. Not sure if it'll be walnut, but sure would be nice if it was. I like the little gun, I just think the wood and it's finish left a lot to be desired. Mine's blued, but wish it was stainless. I will keep after them. I've noticed there have been a lot of views on this thread. Maybe they'll realize a lot of potential customers are witnessing how they treat their current customers. Also note that the box for my Circuit Judge is labeled "Taurus/Rossi". I would think Taurus should be concerned about the reputation of "non support" they're getting through Rossi failing to take care of a factory defect in their product. IMHO.

jgradyc, I will probably offer it up for trade once I get the new buttstock on it. I don't want to take a loss on a like new gun because of a faulty buttstock, when I have a new and improved one coming....someday. The customer service reps are telling me that they are building the stocks out of a different kind of wood, and that they are in production.

peejman, thanks for the suggestions. I do have an order number and use it every time I call or email Rossi. I'd hate to make this thing a full time job. I'd rather they just do the right thing and send me a replacement stock. I don't want to attempt any fix on the stock, as I feel they may want it back for a new one.