Worriedman

To show how snappy the administration is, they are almost talked into making Pope the new "Gun Czar", with that load of what Farmer Brown hauled off that he packs with him everywhere he goes. Of course I predict that in fact, it was them were playing him, and now that they have been able to count on his support and used him up for what good he was able to do for them, he will soon be kicked to the curb.

Under the General Police Powers of the State, statutes barring property owners from prohibiting storage of firearms in locked vehicles on their property are rationally related to legitimate State interest of increasing public safety. They do not result in a permanent invasion of the property, and reduce crime. Property owners and employers are usually required to recognize a state-protected right of their employees and invited guest, as laws meant to support the health, safety, morals, and general welfare of the entire community are generally upheld even if they destroy or adversely affect private property interests. The Kentucky Supreme court in this case did exactly that.

http://volokh.com/20...-in-their-cars/

I view with interest the comments of five (5) different Republican Legislators to me yesterday, that prudence would dictate that I pay no attention to the law, and simply carry my weapon wherever I go, regardless of what the law says. That I feel, is the real problem with the people elected to do our business, they have become immune to having to live by the edicts that they turn out to rule our lives, accepting the dollars of corporate sponsors of laws that the legislators themselves do not intend to obey. They have become immune to having to follow any rules due to their "special dispensations" they simply hold that no law is meaningful to them, and if you are one of the chosen, or as one put it to me, "smart enough to survive" pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, it is how they live.

Montgomery and Sargent, both Republicans, voted for allowing a floor vote as well, I had missed that in the earlier count, and should let it be know that they were with Matheney and Eldridge.

Has the world turned upside down? Jimmy Naifeh votes FOR a gun bill and the majority of Republican legislators vote against it. Got to give props to Judd Matheney and Jimmy Eldridge, the only two Republicans to stand with us.

Too late for that tactic, Pope is out of the gun show business. He now is pandering to the Leadership of the Legislature and the Governor, resting upon his gains from the shooting sports enthusiast who have made him rich, (well that, and his previous ownership of topless clubs), a legend in his own mind.

I am so mad tonight that my blood pressure is off the charts. SWMBO is genuinely concerned that I might have the "Big One Ethel", but I have to admit THAT is hilarious, and was sorely needed!

That was the whole point of the secret ballot, so no one will ever know, like the secret votes to put Harwell in as Speaker, the Caucus doing THEIR business to disenfranchise the Citizens. Cowards, all of them!

Did anybody else pay Mr. Pope for his "Tennessee Patriot" quarterly newspaper back in 2010. He sold subscriptions to the "conservative newspaper" which was supposed to be delivered 4 times a year. I purchased a subscription at a gun show in Jackson, (where ironically I was manning a table in support of Ron Ramsey for Governor). He took the money, but I only got two issues, and had to pick both of them up. I never got an explanation of why he did not deliver the promised number of papers, nor a refund???

Senator Faulk (as sponsor) has to put the bill "On Notice' or it goes nowhere. He is also the Chairman of the Calender and Rules Committee. The only two people who truly have any sway over the movement of the bill are Senator Faulk and Lt. Gov. (Speaker of the Senate) Ron Ramsey.

http://www.votervoic...V_CULTURE=en-us If you follow the instructions on the page, the above link will automatically e-mail every House member and every State Senator. Please take the time to change up the subject line and body of the message slightly, or the "spam" filter will keep it from being delivered. The crucial time for this is the next two days, if these bills do not get on the floor by Wednesday, they will fail for this session. We still have a decent chance to move these to the floors of the respective chambers, as there has been a lot of pressure brought to bear on House and Senate Leadership regarding the issue. A last big push is needed to show them that we are paying attention. I appreciate so much TGO David allowing me to put this up!

Ramsey is unopposed in his race for his current seat. From where he is sitting, he has no down side to cozying up to Fed Ex. The only way to get his attention is to keep those cards and letter coming in, and then posting what you send.

Was at a gathering in Nashville Friday night where it was presented by a member of House Leadership that the Caucus, i.e. Republicans, has not made up its mind regarding HB 3560. I find that hard to understand, per the fact that 28 of the 30 co-sponsors are Republicans, (which is 43.75% of all the Republicans in the House). What level of support prior to putting the bill on notice might have been achieved, had Leadership not consistently, from inception till now, fought to keep this measure bottled up? With that number of supporters of the bill, (even under duress) and, the fact that it has been vetted on its merits in the accepted legislative manner, through sub-committee, to full committee, and passed out of both to Calender and Rules, it SHOULD receive a place on the floor for a full debate of the State's Representatives. If in fact, the bill is so abhorrent in its content to the legisaltors, that will be apparent in its reception by the whole body of the House. However, if there is desire on the part of the assemblage, to honor what has been passed out of committee in BOTH chambers (and judged Constitutional by our State Attorney General in its earlier broad form prior to the narrowing in the House version, which in truth, was requested and structured by those who favor the Citizen's ability to provide for their own security and safety), let it be proven and not a matter of conjecture. What harm could there be in allowing the General Assembly to do the People's business if the individual members of the caucus are so adverse to the passage of this measure. Leadership should welcome the chance for the members of the House to verify their assertion that there is not enough support to move the bill to a Public Chapter, thereby rendering their opinions correct, and once and for all stilling the voices of dissent against that declaration, which ask simply for a fair hearing of the issue. Or do they fear that once the yeas and nays are counted in full, their caucus will show a different opinion, possibly reflecting the desires of the People? The truth would out in the counting of the votes. Of note, the Republicans alone number in the superior position to pass or kill, and alone, will bear the accolades or condemnation of the results. Where does the allegiance of General Assembly lie, to the Citizens at large, or to the few "Business" interest that seek to rule the rest of us for their perceived benefit? Twenty (20) other States have versions of this bill, and as related by the Federal Express Lobbyist in his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, (which passed the companion bill to its own Calender and Rules committee) no harm has come of it in any of them. Let the entire Legislature decide and end the debate. Surely, with the vast majority of the House being Republicans, (who we all know have our best interest at heart), the correct decision will be made.

The current law already extends the Castle Doctrine to a privately owned vehicle. http://nashvilleatto...for-protection/ http://state.tn.us/s.../pub/pc0210.pdf The TCA will have to be changed to delist the ability of a property owner to "post" their property for the bill to work, as the current code allows. Currently 39-16-611- Section 1- [c}states: Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily injury within a residence, dwelling or vehicle is presumed to have held a reasonable belief of imminent death or serious bodily injury to self, family, a member of the household or a person visiting as an invited guest when that force is used against another person, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence, dwelling or vehicle, and the person using defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred.

Ask your neighbors if the other 18 States that have passed these bills fall into that laughing stock?

Do you have a copy of their Bill? I have a meeting Tuesday with someone who that might be a good thing to have on hand.

From an article published last year: http://www.memphisda...e.aspx?id=58222 In two meetings in his office, Ramsey assured me that he was in favor of the ability of Permit Holders to keep their weapons in their personal vehicles, wonder what changed his mind?

I, along with Butch Butler worked the compromise with Mark McBride in 2009, the Owner of the Little General chain. It is his intent to allow concealed carry in his establishments, and at the time the signage was legal to allow as he posted. My understanding is that he still allows concealed carry, and as the proprietor, he can decide what he allows regardless of what the change in signage laws state.

The United States Court of Appeals, Tenth Circuit, does not agree, they found in RAMSEY WINCH INC.; Auto Crane Company; ConocoPhillips; Norris, a Dover Resources Company; DP Manufacturing, Inc., a Delaware Corporation; Tulsa Winch, Inc., a Delaware corporation, Plaintiffs-Appellees, v. C. Brad HENRY, Governor of the State of Oklahoma; W.A. Drew B. Edmonson, Attorney General of the State of Oklahoma, and their Agents and Successors, Defendants-Appellants, No. 07-5166, Feb. 18, 2009, that state statutes barring property owners from prohibiting storage of firearms in locked vehicles on their property were not a per se physical taking of claimants' properties under the Fifth Amendment, notwithstanding claimants' contention that statutes required them to provide an easement for individuals transporting firearms; statutes applied to all property owners, not just claimants, statues merely limited claimants' use of their properties, and that the statutes did not require claimants to deed portions of their properties to the state for public use. In addition, the Court found state statutes barring property owners from prohibiting storage of firearms in locked vehicles on their property did not completely deprive claimants' of all economically beneficial use of their properties so as to constitute a taking under the Fifth Amendment, and were rationally related to legitimate state interest of increasing public safety, (very important) and thus did not violate substantive due process. In addition the Court found that state statutes barring property owners from prohibiting storage of firearms in locked vehicles on their property was not preempted by overall purpose and objective of Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA).

Then why block the work of the Legislature if that is their intent (to get stuff done)? Let the elected representatives do their job, there is always the veto?

Obama Quote: “Well, what we’re going to have to do is continue to make progress on the economy over the next several months. And where Congress is not willing to act, (what he means is "If their actions do not suit us") we’re going to go ahead and do it ourselves. But it would be nice if we could get a little bit of help from Capitol Hill.†Haslam Quote: When asked if he would make sure the bills don’t pass, he laughed and said, “That’s a pretty good summary.†Lack of respect for the process of the Legislature, the effect being to have powerful people decide the fate of the Nation or State to suit the desires of the few, the elite, over the interest of the People, who put the Legislature in place, and pay their salaries in the expectation that certain norms will be adhered to. Bills that have been debated on their merits in the proper committees, and found by them to be valid, deserve to have a vote by the full chambers. That is the design of our governments. We now have rulers, not statesmen or servants of the People.

From TN Report. http://tnreport.com/blog/2012/04/18/gun-rights-vs-property-rights-debate-closer-to-floor-in-house/ For a man who does not have the pressure of re-election on him, why would one who sponsored a much broader bill than exist now, cave to pressure from Leadership? This calls for contact to Sen. Faulk on a massive scale. As Chairman of the Calender and Rules Committee, he owes allegiance to all citizens of Tennessee, not just the constituents in his Senatorial District. Phone (615) 741-2061 e-mail sen.mike.faulk@capitol.tn.gov

Take that back. Go to General Assembly page: http://www.capitol.tn.gov/ Then to House. http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/ Then to House Weekly Calender on right of page to reach here: http://wapp.capitol....aspx?type=house Pick the day you are searching for, then the action, in this case Thursday, April 19, 2012, for Calender and Rules.

I get the information from friends who work at Legislative Plaza, not sure it is a published thing until the day of.