DavidD

Makes you wonder, is it the Reporter, the Mayor or both that don't have a clue?

I'm with Daniel, keep the Sig.........

Cool, I didn't know.

Yes, I love my 3G and will buy the 3G S soon. I really like the ease of getting on the internet when out and about when I'm bored. I spend alot of time here on TGO via the iphone as well. I also really enjoy my USA Today app as well, Thanx KahrMan!

Thanks Jaysouth for the reminder. Really, thanks

Thanks for the heads up. I too will stop by. I've never shot trap but absolutely love the sporting clays.

I hope it went something like this and Sen. jackson saying ..........

I don't know if I'd go as far as to say they are "gun friendly" however they are by far less biased than the others (2/4) in my opinion. Like you, I only watch channel 5 for local news now and have for years.

Ok, so it did happen Very Nice!

Around here, we like to say it didn't happen without pics..........

Deep breaths Hex, slow-deep-breaths. Say it with me now......Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, Mellowwwwwwwww, Hmmmmmmmm

I want to get a scope for my AR. While I really like the Red Dot scopes out there, I really want one with some magnification as eyes aren't as good as the y use to be. I really like the idea of a variable scope so that I can "zoom" per se. Now on paper the NC Star scopes like this fits the bill perfectly and even looks tacticool Product Categories However, I have read numerous places including here that the NC Stars are junk and not worth the little bit of money you pay. So, here I am, asking you guys what you'd recomend. Again, here is what I'm looking for: Variable magnification, probably no less than 2 but not more than 10. I'm shooting .223 and can't imagine over 150 yard shots. I really can't justify spending $1,400 for an ACOG. I'd like to keep it under $450.

Here is the reponse I received back from Mae Beavers, My State Senator: I will vote to override the veto. I had filed the same bill. The Governor made the statement that he will veto my parks bill also. Mae

I have owned both, an Interarms and a S&W. Sold the Interarms years ago, then bought the S&W. Both were/are extremlt acurate for such a short barrel but heavy as lead. I have never had any trouble out of either hower the S&W is out on recall right now.....

And on the night all the Legislators had convened for the weekend, prior to the day (Monday) in which the bill went into effect. Oh yea, it was definately planned. Bredeson is an idiot but he'd not stupid.

Ok, I got a little long winded. I hope it isn't too long to be effective From: David D Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:22 AM To: 'susan.lynn@charter.net'; 'sen.mae.beavers@capitol.tn.gov' Cc: 'sen.doug.jackson@capitol.tn.gov'; 'sen.jim.kyle@capitol.tn.gov'; 'sen.mark.norris@capitol.tn.gov'; 'sen.diane.black@capitol.tn.gov'; 'sen.roy.herron@capitol.tn.gov'; 'speaker.kent.williams@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.jason.mumpower@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.gary.odom@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.glen.casada@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.lois.deberry@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.john.litz@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.mike.turner@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.henry.fincher@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.sherry.jones@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.larry.turner@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.dennis.ferguson@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.mark.maddox@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.gerald.mccormick@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.kevin.brooks@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.debra.maggart@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.jon.lundberg@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.barrett.rich@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.judd.matheny@capitol.tn.gov'; 'rep.joey.hensley@capitol.tn.gov' Subject: HB 0962 Representative Lynn and Senator Beavers, I think I know where you both stand on this issue but wanted to reinforce what I believe is your stance on this bill. Please do all you can to be sure that the Governors Veto of HB 0962 is overturned in both the House and Senate As Soon As Possible. I appreciate both of you immensely as you are truly acting as elected officials should by voting per the will of the people. Unfortunately, there are many of your fellow Representatives and Senators that believe they know better than the people who elected them. They forget that their only duty is to be the voice of the people, for the people. Our Governor is obviously guilty of this as he has demonstrated by this veto and apparently is arrogant enough to believe he knows best. Other Representatives and Senators copied in this email, First and foremost, I am a law abiding resident of the Great state of Tennessee who has had a valid Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit for many years. I have never broken any laws other than the typical driving infractions normal for a man in his mid 40's. Thankfully, I have never had to use my handgun to defend myself or others at any point during this time and I pray that I will never have to. I do however carry my handgun with me at all times, except when going into a restaurant for lunch or dinner that serves Alcohol, even though I do not partake in having a "drink". During these times, I am forced by my own conventions to follow the law and leave my weapon in my locked vehicle. This act in itself increases the potential for crime in our great state. Not from the perspective that I do not have the weapon on my person so I could defend myself and family God forbid the need arose, but by the simple fact that my weapon is now in my vehicle and susceptible to theft by a criminal who would do God only knows with it. As any responsible gun owner should, I keep my weapons, both handguns and rifles locked up in a safe in my home when not in use. This is certainly much more secure than any automobile. It amazes me at the misinformation out there about "Guns and Alcohol don't mix." Well of course they don't, It is nothing short of political rhetoric. That is precisely what HB 0962 bill states. A TN Handgun Carry Permit Holder cannot consume alcohol under this bill. I constantly hear "Who will enforce this?" My answer, the same people who enforce that guns aren't allowed in restaurants that serve alcohol now. Who is protecting me and my family at the present as we sit in Olive Garden? It is currently against the law so only criminals are currently being served while carrying a gun in restaurants where alcohol is served. Is there anyone out there truly naive enough to believe it isn't happening right now? That is exactly what scares me and should you as well. I would venture to say that the person who is knowingly breaking the law now could care less about obtaining a Handgun Carry Permit in the first place, even if they could. After all, if they are going to break the law, why go through the expense, background check and Handgun Safety Course? I, as well as allot of fellow Tennesseans, are simply asking our legislators to level the playing field. Like many others, I refuse to disarm myself and allow only the criminals to have firearms. I have pondered this issue for many years and have come to the conclusion that the only solution to gun control is to control who has them and who doesn't simply by enforcing the laws currently in place. I assure you, it would be less costly and much more effective if our legislators would spend their time looking for better ways to enforce these laws and to punish those who break them rather than to try and dream up new ways to hinder those that will not break the law. As a prime example, we as a society have not been effective at ridding our schools or our streets of drugs, so why are some so naive to think that by taking guns from law abiding citizens it will somehow lesson gun crimes? Whether you agree with the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States or not, this is not the issue at hand. We can all agree to disagree on the issue of gun control. However, you and/or your predecessors have voted to allow Law Abiding Citizens of this great state to apply and receive Handgun Carry Permits without all of the rhetoric of the time about "Wild West Shoot outs" and such ever materializing. This bill just corrects what I believe was an error on the original bill by creating so called gun free zones in our everyday lives. If you trust someone with a loaded gun, shouldn't you be able to trust them to show constraint in a restaurant that serves alcohol? People seem to forget that TN HCP holders have been carrying loaded handguns into restaurants such as Cracker Barrel, Panera Bread, Chick Fill-A, Jason's Deli, Subway, McDonalds, Taco Bell etc. for many years now without incident. Since 2000, we have even been carrying loaded handguns into Liquor Stores, Grocery Stores and Convenient Stores that sell alcohol and apparently TN HCP holders have shown constraint and not shot up the places. I ask you what is the difference? Why all of the sudden would HCP holders start to drink in Chili's because they are allowed to carry in there now? I honestly do not believe this to be the case. Remember that we TN HCP Holders are law abiding citizens. We cannot have so much as a misdemeanor on our record in order to obtain this HCP, nor can we have a DUI. It's a shame that these guidelines do not hold true for our elected officials. Please do not continue to punish us while trying aimlessly to restrict criminals as in fact all it does is give them the upper hand. Criminals could care less what laws you pass. Please vote the obvious will of the people and override the Governors Veto of HB 0962. Your loyal constituent and fellow Tennessean, David D xxx xxx xx xxxxxxxx, TN xxxxx

You obviously haven't been looking around too closely.... http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tennessee-politics-legislation/21893-governor-phil-bredesen-vetoes-hb0962-restaurant-carry-bill.html

Jamie, While agree with most of what you've said and deeply respect your position, I do have a problem with the above part of your quote. Didn't your training include situational awareness and threat evaluation? How many Criminals/Whacko's have you ever encountered with guns being openly carried? Don't most tuck them in the front of their pants without a holster? I do not ever o/c nor do I believe it is the way to go normally for tactical and response reasons however I do believe that your statement about having your own weapon in hand before confronting the individual is a little dramatic and overboard.

Well, I have found myself a free Saturday morning so I'm going to head that way. Still on with the rain and all?

We gotcha Phill, go for it man.....

Called. Spoke with Mrs. Cross. Told her I'd like the Gvernor to sign HB0962. Took 23 whole seconds

Yep, How'd you get that????

Well, maybe not soo unique, but qty should help. Here they are- Ok, maybe the Ninety-Two isn't that common, or possibly even the DAO PX4

Well, you might have a point there smokey!