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This guy is not registering anything he owns.
This guy is not paying any taxes on anything he owns.
This guy is not letting anything he owns be turned into NFA items.
This guy is not giving up anything he owns.
This guy is not willing to "compromise".
Guns, mags, ammo or anything else that "goes up".
This guy is not willing to rebel with armed force.
This guy is not willing to fight with law enforcement agencies at any level.
This guy is not willing to sit in jail.
I will let my hired representatives and the NRA fight it out. If that fails, I will take to the streets of my state capitol to protest and demand the state refuse the federal regulations and defend anyone under the TN Firearms Freedom Act - with force from local/state law enforcement if needed.
If that fails, I will reconsider what I am willing to do. Course at that time, there will not be much left to loose, so who knows what I will be willing to do.
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According to TTAG, NBC had cancelled all gun related shows and Discovery has cancelled American Guns and Sons of Guns. All in the wake of Friday's tragedy.
NBC?
Well, there goes their entire fall schedule :lol:
That is very offensive.
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I agree.
No reason to insult vagina like that
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Heard on tube that NRA has averaged 8K new members per day since the shooting in CT.
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Methinks is why they have been silent.
Imagine the numbers if a ban gets put on the table or even goes through. Big bank. Big big bank.
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Dicks still has a good market on sports stuffs. I doubt loosing any gun sales will hurt them very much.
Academy is really hurting them here in the Nooga though.
And golf? I'd rather play fetch with myself than play golf
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Dick's removed all firearms from store nearest NewTown and suspended sales of "modern sporting rifles" (ARs) nationwide.
You can read their official statement here and there:
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/20372623/dicks-sporting-goods-removes
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Hmm...
I was wrong. That's never happened to me before. I'm not sure how to explain this feeling I have right now. I think I'll go lie down now
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Dicks and WM are only pulling weapons frpm stores located around the shooting.
they didn't say how many stores or what the exact locations were.
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Do you guys know many teachers? We'd be better served by a progam to increase our school resource officers.
School RSOs are expensive.
Tax payers are stingy.
Armed staff is free.
See where this is going? :)
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I sent you a PM, Brian.
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This song will be the last thing you think about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY
I am not going to listen to anything but horrible and regrettably catchy songs from the '90s for the rest of the week.
Figure by the time Friday rolls around, I'll be happy to go out in a burning blaze of hail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvcohzJvviQ
What's on your playlists? :)
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No sympathy for that guy. He knew what he was doing and was given ample warning.
I would like to see more details about the machine gun though.
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As to the application fee...no one here knows what it really costs the state to process an application and unless we DO know the cost all the claims that it's "too high" are meaningless. It could be they could charge 75% less than they do; or, for all we know, the fee being charged today doesn't even cover the cost.
Cost of a drivers license is $20.
Cost of a BG check is $10.
Add a few bucks for the cost of a fingerprinting machine/3rd party fingerprinting.
Goes hand and hand with what others in this thread have said other states charge.
TN adds a few extra hands and steps to the process to triple the costs and increase profits. One extra step is TCIS. TICS is a middle man for NICS.
Another step is the state not offering free BG checks , or waiving the checks altogether, to those with a HCP.
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Cops says he saw a knife. Kinda hard to tell in the vid.
The corpse's lawyer sez he was tangled up in the seat belt. Can not see that either.
I'd call that a wash.
I do see a repeat felon attempting to either run or attack the cop. I'm fine with the outcome.
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To no one in particular:
It isn't about the cash strapped not being able to afford to purchase a right.
It is about the state putting restrictions and a tax on rights for the sole purpose of creating additional revenue and profit.
It's not that complicated. Taxing rights is wrong.
The above post is not directed to the guy that is ignoring me.
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And that's exactly what it was; a jumping assumption likely jumped to because not doing so would not have supported your already formed opinion.
Most of the firearms I've purchased in my life have been "used"...there is nothing wrong with a used firearm and I never and have never said otherwise.
It really doesn't matter if you said "new" or not.
I will repost my comment here without it since you believe that one little word nips my [point. :)
A poor man that eats Ramen noodles every night has every bit of the same rights as you. He might be able to scrape up $150.00 for a Highpoint but it might be impossible for him to come up with another $200+ to purchase his right to carry it.
And who says that poor man has to buy a
newhandgun anyway? Maybe his weapon(s) are hand-me-downs, "loans" or gifts. Does he forfeit his rights because his gun was a free gift and he's poor?It's a sad day when we are willing to put a price on God given rights.
You still think rights should be purchased.
You still think the poor can afford unconstitutional taxes if they can afford a weapon.
The word "new" does not change anything here.
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And the "new handgun" issue is wholly in your imagination; if you think "decent" means the same as "new" then that's your incorrect assumption.
My apologizes for making such a jumping assumption
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Awesome! I'm in Trenton often and had no idea 'yuns were out there.
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Sheesh....
Wish someone would insult me by saying I've never been poor :lol:
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Who the hell are you to assume I've never been poor or anything else about me for that matter? What, exactly do you know about me? The answer is NOT A DAMN THING. You want to disagree with something I've said; fine...disagree. You think I don't know what I'm talking about on an issue then fine; think that. But I've worked GOD DAMN HARD for everything I have am I'm sure as hell not ashamed that I have it and I'm not about to start being ashamed just because someone makes a swipe at me like you just did.
Aside form your baseless assumptions, our conversations would go a lot more smoothly if you didn't read what you think I said rather than what I actually said..
Easy, Hoss. :)
Just making an observation. No one that's been on the Ramen noodles financial plan will say "if they can afford X, they can afford Y".
Someone else mentioned being able to afford a car but couldn't afford gas. Great analogy.
It's great if you've never been in that position.
.when did I EVER say someone has to "buy a new handgun"? The answer is never. If you think that's the wrong answer then please quote the post where I said otherwise.
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I agree but how much is too much? If $200 is unreasonable how about $100 or $75? Even $50 is a lot for some people.
I realize that $150-200 or so can be a LOT to some and pocket change to others but if someone can afford a decent handgun I would think they could afford the cost of getting the HCP.You've never been poor have you? It shows :)
A poor man that eats Ramen noodles every night has every bit of the same rights as you. He might be able to scrape up $150.00 for a Highpoint but it might be impossible for him to come up with another $200+ to purchase his right to carry it.
And who says that poor man has to buy a new handgun anyway? Maybe his weapon(s) are hand-me-downs, "loans" or gifts. Does he forfeit his rights because his gun was a free gift and he's poor?
It's a sad day when we are willing to put a price on God given rights.
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We need constitutional carry and refinement of our HCP process; a couple of very minor adjustments would make the process much less hassle but I very much like that I can carry in some 36 other stats just with my TN HCP and I don't want to see that changed unless it's a change to being honored in more states.
Many places that do the class also do the fingerprints; I don't see how going to a sheriff's office would be better or more efficient? My fingerprinting took about 5 minutes tops; the only hard part was the machine getting a good read.
I just read GA's carry laws and I don't see how their process is significantly better...different; but not truly better at least as I look at them quickly. More important I think; their permit is not honored in about 11 fewer states than TN.
Never researched reciprocity. Take your word on it though.
Guess that's from GA not requiring any safety classes. I'd gladly trade carrying in an unvisited state for less restrictions in my home state.
Far as the differences in permitting process;
TN requires an 8 hour safety class which normally costs 80-100 dollars. There's day one wasted.
Ga does not require this.
TN requires tested applicants to apply at DoS and to pay 115 dollars for the application form and fingerprinting. These long lines makes days two wasted.
GA does not require this. You
applyget your permit at your county's probate court. Application is short and fees low. More importantly, court employees are required to be good employees, unlike the often appointed "welfare to work" employees manning the long lines at TDoS.TN requires you to make an appointment for fingerprinting after you file your application. This usually doesn't take very ling but it's still another unneeded trip.
GA does not do this. You simply show up at your closest jail at your convinced time. Not sure if 3rd parties can do this.
TN can take upto 90 days to issue.
GA is "instantly" (close enough to call instant. They even show you your permit before you leave the court).
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I go commando.
It's the only tactical way.
True story.
Are you affirming that's it's the only tactical way.... or that I really do go commando?
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And boxers vs briefs
I go commando.
It's the only tactical way.
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Maybe I'm a bit more individual liberty minded than most..I never had a job working for someone else save for my time in the Army and a few short jobs here and there for short periods of time..That said, I was extremely offended and taken aback by all the hoops I had to jump through to get my Tennessee HCP. The application was an affront against my personal liberty, the 2nd amendment and our Founders intent. I was BOILING MAD on the inside when I was subjected to Fingerprinting like a criminal. I know I must seem like an extremist for my Libertarian views but I'm happy to be put in the same category as Thomas Jefferson. I'm STILL steamed up thinking about it....I carried weapons for years living in Alaska with ZERO permits required with zero problems. Here in TN going to a class, paying that fee, paying another $115 fee to the State than having to make an appointment at yet another place (that was not easy to find) to get my fingerprints done seemed like a LOT of jumping through hoops. It should not be this way. We need a REAL political action movement to start asserting our rights. I don't believe in the NRA as they've sold us out before. I'm not aligning with any organization that doesn't believe in the "shall not be infringed" part of the 2nd Amendment.
Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. Something needs to be done nationwide and the Federal Courts are not the Answer. They have already proven treasonous. Do Extreme Libertarian minded folks have no recourse but the last one?
I agree. The hoops and taxes should be removed from the process.
I have suggested a lot here ( and to my reps over the years) that TN needs to copy GA's carry laws. Instant issue, fingerprints handled by LE (free) and applicants are charged what it costs the county to issue them - and not what the state want's to profit.
I wnet through this when I lived in GA and It only took me about an hour to complete the entire process and had my permit in hand within 4 or 5 days or so.
It takes most Tennesseans longer than an hour just to stand in the first line at the DoS.
No worries though. People are hard at work bickering about laws with little to no chance of ever coming up to vote, instead of removing unconstitutional restrictions and taxes.
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What time tomorrow is the world supposed to end?
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Yes.
I'm not worried until I hear nothing at all. Or until I hear black noise. Which ever comes first.... or last...