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.22 Long Rifle and 5.56 make the same size hole as one another also.

The safe clean out continues.. so up for your consideration is a Remington 870 that was modified by Scattergun Technologies. This 870 Wingmaster was sent to them in the late 90s, when they were located in Nashville, before being acquired by Wilson Combat. Some modifications include having the barrel cut to 18.5”, chamber cut for 3” shells, action work, refinishing, enlarged safety, mag tube extension, and ghost ring tritium sights. For those that may ask, the serial number has a "T" prefix which dates it 1974-1977 and "LO" on the barrel should be a production date of February 1977. $700 - Located in Gallatin / Sumner County - TNDL or HCP flash I am looking for a Glock 17 Gen5 with front serrations and would love to make a trade deal. Preferably one like new in the box with a black frame. MOS or standard is just fine. Sorry no other models at this time. Thanks!

Ruger Mini 30 Shot about 300 rounds. Has Hogue stock and original stock. Has box, manual, and scope rings. Located in Murfreesboro near Walmart on Joe b Jackson. $800 Not looking for any trades.

My favorite hasn't been made for about a century now. Model 51 Remington.

and sometimes it is just an inconvience to go 'heavy' strapped, a quick pocket gun is better than no gun at all.

Oh, I am not arguing against the fact that there are a lot of other reasons to dislike Sig Sauer. My personal beef with them is that they will release a new handgun that makes you think, "Oh I should buy this!" only to release an evolved version of that same gun a year later that makes you think "I should have waited for this one instead."

We were out all night cutting trees out of the road again in my AO. Aggravating to be sure, but leaves a lot to be thankful for considering the tragedies that unfolded in other areas. We need to be praying for those people.

Life is a series of compromises, right? If lowering your odds w/ a mouse gun is unacceptable for the sake of convenience, so is carrying a pistol instead of a shotgun or rifle.

Colt Mustang is my favorite but if I was buying one today for carry, it would be the Ruger Security 380. It checks all the boxes. Around $300, feels good, easy to pull slide, great sights, holds 15 rounds, it's a Ruger.

take a look at sig p238 also

I have a recent production Colt Python with a 3"bbl, in polished stainless with factory walnut grips, with less than 50 rnds fired, never carried. I am the first and only owner. It is in like new condition with the factory box/docs. Given the poor reviews on the stock factory rear sight working loose, I installed a set of Wilson Combat rear sights that have proven far more stable (factory rear sight will be included). The weapon will be sold with the following accessories and will not be sold separately: (4) HKS speedloaders (1) Altamont Custom G10 Boot Grips with Colt logo (1) Hogue Grips w/ mounting hardware. (1) Pachmeyer Grips Price: $1100 FIRM No trade offers please, cash is king. No lowball offers. I am FIRM on the price. Be advised, this weapon will be posted on other sites. NOTE: Buyer will need to agree to the following conditions: 1.) Complete a bill of sale, 2.) Present a valid TN ID and 3.) Present a valid TN HCP

If my carry gun is so wimpy that six shots center mass from a couple feet won’t reliably stop a typical bad guy, I think I’d be better off with a knife.

I would much rather have my P365 with me, but even as small as it is, running down to the corner market in basketball shorts means I'm taking my LCP without a doubt. There is not a 9mm that small and light and if there was, you couldn't shoot the darn thing.

I bought a .380 to replace my EDC. I normally prefer a 45. Yep, I've seen all of the gel tests, read shooting reports, read the goat tests. Nothing beats a 357 mag for stopping threats of the two legged variety. Close second being 45 ACP. But the piece that goes with me always is a KelTec 32. I'm like bersaguy with this pistol, within 7 yards I don't miss point of aim. I won't try to quote any of what I have read, but shot placement is critical in stopping anti-social behavior. Which would I rather have in a gunfight? hands down my Taurus 608 with 125 grain SJHP. But I'm not carrying that every day and I don't shoot revolvers as well as semi-autos. All that said, I'm comfortable with my 32 and there aren't any micro 9s that are even close in size and weight. The 380 was only bought so hopefully the wife will learn and carry the 32. Someone once said the best gun to have in a gunfight is the one you have with you.

I don't want to compromise on any of it, but if we got instant background checks like we do with firearms, and no-cost or low-cost tax stamps, it would be a step in the right direction. I'd have a ####load more suppressors if I could buy one and go home with it the same day.

Every shooting is its own unique story. Nobody can predict how a person will react and there are many failure to stop horror stories. But, you never know what will happen until it actually does happen. I happen to like the 380. Then again, depending on the circumstances, I have carried .32s, .25s and even .22s. Its the Indian, not the arrow. Yes, they do make 9mms now that are as small as a 380. But I already have enough guns in both 9mm and 380. I see no reason to buy another that I don't really need. Further I have shot a couple of the small 9mms. I didn't like them and had trouble hitting with them. However, I can shoot a small 380 quite well. Another thing is that sometimes its more about the gun than the caliber. I happen to be very fond of the Walther PP series pistols. I have carried one of these in 380 and also in .32 acp. I've never felt under gunned because I shoot them quite well. My favorite 380 is the Colt Mustang. Small, easy to carry and its locked breech design makes recoil very manageable. I feel very well protected with it. Sure, some calibers are better than others. But caliber wars prove nothing. Few would recommend carrying a .22LR. Yet some people do and the lowly .22 has put a whole lot of people in the ground. Carry what you're comfortable with and the Hell with what anybody else says.

BUT I just had my shoulder replaced and cannot shoot it for 6 months! It was made in Turkey. Does anyone have one of these and can give me some beta?

About time. As you will learn, the authoritarian regime of PedoJoe, senile pant####ter and his scumbags at the ATF and DOJ engaged in a multifronted war against this device and this company. It's all over and FRTs are back on the menu, boys!

I've offered my prayers up for those affected by this latest round of storms. That is the best I can do today. I don't know if the storms are getting stronger. I'm sure the paths are moving as they tend to do over the decades. Earth is dynamic, turning and moving in constant state of shift. I'm with @gregintenn on this one too, are storms more deadly? Sure, there are more people now. I have seen the paths move and return over the years. The Bible says it rains on the just and unjust alike, I think one meaning is the weather goes where it goes, no one is immune or protected.

Looking to sell my Finn M91/24 “Lotta” rifle. These are sort of unique, as they were the first upgraded M91 models that the Finns reworked. IIRC, they only made 25k of these. This particular example has a heavy stepped barrel made by Bohler Stahl (German interwar period production), Finn 2 piece spliced stock, and the receiver is an 1897 Sestroryetsk Russian production. The rifle is very good condition, and the bore is mirror bright. Included is the Finnish leather sling. I have not fired this rifle but I’m sure it’s a great and accurate shooter like the other various Finnish Mosin Nagants I have owned. $700 or trade for other military rifles.

Go big or go home!!! What a score.

I assume everyone here realizes a 380 ACP projectile and a 9mm Mauser projectile make the exact same diameter hole, right?

A co worker's brother who lived in Cave City, Kentucky was shot something like 26 times by police with 9mms several years back. Far as I know, he's still walking around. You never really know.

Nothing is 100% regarding firearms. Ask the FBI why they adopted then dropped the 10mm. Ask they army why they adopted then dropped 38spl. One of the reports I read when I studied this involved a police officer responding to an armed robbery. He was shot in the upper arm by a 25ACP, dropped to the sidewalk and died of shock. Shot placement and round choice are #1 and #2. And by round choice I do not mean caliber. One could use a 9mm or 45 with FMJ or LRN and lose the fight without hitting the central nervous system. Hunters will tell you animals will run or continue to attack with a fatal wound. Round choice is dependent upon multiple factors. In theory, you want to expend all of the energy within a short distance. Good hollow points do that. Great hollow points will do it after passing through heavy clothing, windows, plywood, and other barriers. While many will perform well on bare gelatin, once clogged with clothing fibers they won't expand at all. There's a reason our military went to 5.56. A dead combatant takes out one, a wounded combatant takes two out of the fight. the ability to carry more rounds is secondary. 5.56 is also flatter shooting and makes sighting at long and short range easier. The switch from 45 to 9mm was for reduced recoil, more rounds was an extra as was our NATO partners using the same round. These calibers with civilian defensive rounds are quite capable but banned from combat. If you would prefer to carry a knife to a gunfight I hope you are well trained and don't have to fight outside of 7 yards. Even a knife is not 100% unless you hit the central nervous system. for TLDR, maximum system shock stops fights.

The Colt Mustang. Basically a miniature 1911. Its a locked breech design which makes the recoil lighter than on blowback pistols, more accurate and easier to shoot. I have two of them and love 'em. My favorite 380. The Sig P238 and Kimber Micro are both copies of this pistol. But the Colt came first and can usually be found a little cheaper. Of course, if you just want to go classic, you just can't beat the old Walther PPK or PPK/s. Old school cool at its finest. If you're interested, I currently have a Sig P232 listed in the classifieds.

I just purchased a S W Bodyguard 2.0 380 semi auto pistol. Have no idea if it is the best on the market or not. Probably not, however it is a fine small 380 pistol. I got 125 rounds through it and have not had time to put any more through it presently. It is very shootable, and it is accurate. My shooting was at 25 feet, and it is dead on at that distance. I purchased the Bodyguard to be a backup pistol to my 357 revolver and carry it on my weak side. I can get an all-fingers grip on even the 10-round magazine, and it also comes with a 12-round mag. You got 10 + 1 and 12 + 1 capability with the bodyguard. The pistol is thin compared to some. It is priced at 399.00 + tax and background check. The pistol also fits in a reasonable sized pocket easily and one can draw it efficiently. I fulfils my want for a backup pistol. Your wants may be different. The 380 caliber is at the bottom and IMO is the smallest caliber I would carry. My opinion is one must be able to put the rounds where they will be effective, if forced into a confrontation with it. I would preferer to use the 357 but as a last resort the 380 should evil be forced on me or mine. Mind you, not looking to test either handgun out, in any way, as far as violence is considered. Pray daily to be safe. I try to minimize my chances of a confrontation, always. Edited to add; I read Carl Chinn's book, " Evil Invades The Sancturary," on the shooting in the 2 Colorado church. He was head of security and on that day was standing in a hallway facing a deadly intruder armed with an AR 15, and 2 fully loaded 9 MM pistols. Carl had a mini 32 caliber pistol, and he recounted how under gunned and inadequate he felt standing there with that very small mini pistol. Something to think about, don't you think.

I don't hear much about Glocks kBing any more. Older Glocks with roomier chambers and poly rifling were the usual suspects, especially .40 guns, ESPECIALLY if lead bullets were being used. I don't know why a gun would blow up with good ammo unless it fired out of battery. 320s mysteriously blowing up has been a little too common lately. I saw one self-destruct with factory ammo. The factory can make bad ammo too, but I think it's a lot less likely. I wonder if out-of-battery is possible with a 320. ETA: I didn't know 320 case support was this lacking. I usually roll my eyes when I hear "not fully supported" but there is quite a bit of brass exposed as Ben Stoeger shows below. It's also interesting that he mentions firing out of battery. He is probably exposed to more 320s than most Sig employees.

Gen 2.5 or 3, however you look at it. It's the Gen2 bolt release and the one piece 7-round tube. Langdon model with magpul furniture. Optic mount is the aimpoint micro footprint but irons still cowitness with the optic on. Added the cable management/heatshield from Langdon. Super nice shotgun but I've never shot it. I always say I will but I never do. So it needs a new home. More pictures among request. Immaculate condition. Asking $1500. Will entertain a partial trade of a Glock 34 Gen5.

Ruger LCP II is worth looking at. Easy to conceal and pleasant to shoot.

Any more details on this? Was it an ND, which would entirely be his fault, or was it one of the "uncommanded discharges" that are getting so much attention? Thanks, Whisper

A big part of choosing a carry gun is understanding its strengths and weaknesses. If this man had put those .25acp rounds into his opponent's face instead of chest, I'm guessing the outcome likely would have been different.

One, carry and shoot what you are comfortable with. Meaning size, weight, manipulation and accuracy. Your example leaves out some important details; such as were all 5 shots in the torso? Abdominal shots may be survivable vs. 5 rounds in the high central chest area. Were some of the hits in an extremity? Again placement is key. If you can carry and shoot a larger caliber that would be my preference, but if not, be proficient with the one you carry.

My EDC for more than a decade has been my old LCP1 with a seven round magazine. I can hit with it, it's comfortable, and I'm comfortable with it...

I carry a 380, but I'm not a professional gunfighter like most internet forum guys. I shot for my HCP with a 22 revolver. I'm pretty thrifty too.

Well, it is good to be you...... congratulations. Only absolute is don't rush shooting that thing with the replacement. Joint replacement works out pretty well IF YOU FOLLOW the rules of rehab.................

Congrats, as far as advice, shoot it with your other side.

To the OP, theres too many variables not mentioned to say with any finality, but at the end of the day it boils down to this: Insufficient placement wont work against a determined foe, regardless of caliber. An insufficient Caliber, though properly used, may still fail when a more capable caliber wouldn't. We do with that information what we will.

I think this is the answer for the twenty first century... At this point in history, there is nothing better, ounce per ounce, than a 9 mm. The ballistic guys have optimized this cartridge better than all the others put together. TGODavid... ".There are too many small and reliable 9mm micro-compact handguns today for me to give a second thought to carrying a .380 ACP. The days of having to choose small cartridges to get small guns are past us. ". That said, there will always be situations where God intervenes, and a yahoo survives what should have been a fatal shot, no matter the caliber. I've got an uncle ( now long gone to his heavenly home ) who wuz shot 3 times in the belly by my aunt in an argument with 148 grain wad cutters. He sat down on the couch and called an ambulance. I worked for him for years in my college days. He wuz a WW2 vet and a bricklayer. Tough as they come. I'm 78, gimped up, and carry a SIG 938 or a 38 special LCP every day, unless I'm goin thru " Bouganville ", then I grab an extra 9 mm of some flavor, or something bigger. I believe there is no better round than the 9 mm for daily carry, and nothin better than two of em for dangerous situations. All that from a revolver and 1911 snob that has burned thousands of big bore rounds over the years, n carried em all... leroy..

We have the technology to test things to failure. You can use robots, fixtures, and other automation to simulate a wide variety of conditions in a repeatable fashion for thousands of repetitions all under the watchful eye of cameras. Sooner or later, someone has to offer up one of these "faulty" P320s and subject it to the full battery of the scientific method. Once that happens, we'll have the answers we all seek. Until then, we've got nothing more than armchair engineers throwing shade at the P320 and 99% of them are doing it because controversy translates to monetization on social media.

The recall was a drop safety issue. They corrected that YEARS ago and anyone who still has a pre-recall gun in pre-recall state has no excuse for their gun being in that condition. The new claims are that some of these guns somehow go off on their own. I am very skeptical of it and never had any problems out of my P320 and it sat for months in my safe, holstered with a loaded chamber, and it never fired on its own. We may find that there are some tolerance stacking issues that affect a small percentage of these guns, or we may find out that human beings will almost always blame something other than themselves or their garbage-tier holsters when a negligent discharge occurs. I'm still waiting to see this problem (a.) reproduced and (b.) thoroughly analyzed. So far it hasn't happened.

I sincerely hope this results in the downfall of this company. Lads, there aren't many Ronnie Barrett "True Believers" out there anymore. Turns out, your favorite silencermaker has been spending hundreds of thousands to keep silencers ON the NFA. With friends like these... And this is not the first time, nor will it be the last time that "our side" has proven to be decidedly NOT on our side. They are on THEIR side. Many of you with significant and long time NFA experience will know the names J. Curtis Earll, Kent Lomont, Dan Shea, et al. Fixtures in the NFA biz who are allowed all kinds of leeway, from literally WRITING the NFA handbook used by the NFA branch...you can thank former NFA Director Ken Houchens for that steaming pile. What??? Wearing a polo of that company and hanging out at a NFA dealers booth at Knob Creek doesn't smell like corruption? Silly noobs, you just don't understand how this business works. MGs MUST stay on the NFA or else Transferable guns don't appreciate in value and we might have to get real jobs instead of acting like barkers at a sleazy auction house! We also have to lobby to ban bumpstocks, FRTs and binary triggers! Our obscene profits and outsized influence on this niche market depend on zero competition! Alas....I digress most forcefully. Folks ask me all the time when I'm coming back to the gun biz after 8 years gone. My answer is always NEVER. This BS is why... r ROTTEN BASTARDS.

Great condition, has black rear sight front tritium extended slide stop, extended mag release and mag well. Comes with box, back straps, and 2 Glock factory magazines. No trades at this time.

For nineteen hundred dollars, I would buy a better looking firearm, i'm sorry but that is ugly! Just my $0.02

I mainly do pocket carry, easy to do and barley noticeable

Very much understood. I should have added that we met with the young man first and got good "vibes" from him. I know that's not necessarily a good thing to go by. But we did. Like many here, face-to-face conversations, and first impressions are an indicator for us as to how someone is recieved. Still...it is a risk. I understand.

The collection was lacking revolvers so I just picked up a few S&W.

I think a lot of it has to do with your age. Many of us Boomers grew up at a time when all the cops carried revolvers and wheelguns were all over the TV and movies. For us they're normal. But the younger generations grew up with semi-autos. That's their normal. Revolvers are still great guns, but just not the standard any more. You go with what you're used to. Although I have seen many posts on gun boards where some younger person discovers revolvers and is suddenly in love with the old guns. I think wheelguns will be with us for a very long time yet.