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If you have the former Handgun Carry Permit, HCP, now known as the Enhanced Carry Permit, ECP, you have up to 8 years to renew before you would need to take the class over. You have some restrictions on where you can carry until you receive your new permit.
www.tn.gov/safety/tnhp/handgun/handgunonline.html
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3 hours ago, BillyBob said:
The way I was taking it was the 50 dollars was to cover the background check... so do lifetime holders have to pay anything or the only thing they have to worry about is if something comes back on the background check they will be doing automatically?
They will let you know if you need to worry.....otherwise, don't.
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About 7 conditions have to be met to legally carry in most states to include TN. If the state is going to endorse one to carry, they want to be sure you are legally cleared to do so I guess. I would still make it clear one cannot legally carry in parks etc without a permit.
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57 minutes ago, Erik88 said:
Ok. What does that have to do with my question?
Because some want a permit. To keep your CCP you have to renew. No permit, no carry in the places I mentioned. I might be a little slow. If this didn't answer your question, please restate.
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1 hour ago, Erik88 said:
Why would they pass this law after just removing the requirement to even get a permit? This is the first I'm hearing of it.
Must have a TN permit to carry in national park, greenways and other public recreational areas owned by state, city or county.
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The way I read this bill, it only applies to the CHP. Therefore the ECP which would include lifetime are not affected by this bill. There is already a fee for renewal of the ECP every 8 yrs.
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Boxes 1 vs 5&6 still have direct conflicts.
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True Blue may solve your issue
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Is “smokeless BLACK powder” correct?
details matter
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1 hour ago, StephenB said:
I am going to correct the flow chart. I think the only thing I need to do is possibly change some wording where I refer to the public park, natural area, etc. to include playground, civic center, and other recreational areas (just for examples based on 39-17-1311) to follow the same path where it asks if there is a school event and if not then checks for the concealed or enhanced permit. Does that sound accurate?
Your 1st box seems to be inclusive of those areas, so the addition of the school clause would be proper. Also possibly combining boxes 5&6 and eliminating the drop down of 5 may be proper as well.
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Yes I believe you are correct. Believe it was HB 2554….very fe places one could not carry with ECP.
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I agree with you...the sign should not have the force of law. But, AFAIK, there has not been anyone charged/convicted of this. If anyone knows differently please share.
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It lies between Oak Ridge Hwy and Pleasant Ridge Rd....close to NorthWest Middle School. Yes, if one becomes aware of a school event, one must then store the weapon in the car (locked of course) or leave. If you want, the Handgun Division in Nashville can be very helpful with questions. Or, there is regional rep from the division that can be reached. Just ask any school for their number in your area. BTW, I do enjoy these discussions and hopefully give some clarification especially here on TGO. And yes, sometimes not all of the instructors agree....that's where Nashville comes in.
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"recreational areas" is a very broad brush. This would include greenways, dog parks, specific parks such as Victor Ashe park here in Knoxville which is a multi-sport park, sometimes used by schools for cross-country or soccer. Public golf courses and on and on. One could imagine the complexity of go/no go, so carry is permitted by state law which trumps local ordinances. In fact, only the State can regulate firearms, exception is the Federal Gov'mt.
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21 minutes ago, StephenB said:
Actually, I had assumed that same thing in my initial version; however, in the law it never states the exception for a playground, civic center, or other city/state/county area for recreational purposes. The title of the specific section of the law refers to 4 different areas - "public parks, playgrounds, civic centers, and other public recreational buildings and grounds". In 39-17-1311 (b)(1)(H)(i) it explicitly lists areas where the exception applies for permit holders, but does not include those 4 listed above. It's confusing and I missed it initially until I spotted in some US LawShield materials that there was no carry in those 4 areas for any permit holder and I went back and corrected the flowchart.
The law for carry was specifically designed to avoid those public enities from being able to create a matrix of confusing and contridictary laws. Since I have been teaching the carry courses since 2012, those areas we are discussing are completely legal for carry by permit. To be prohibited they would have to invoke all conditions noted under 39-17-1359 (g)(1). This was implemented to ward off a lawsuit regarding carry at the Knoxville fairgrounds during the fair. Sometimes I have found US Law Shield can be misleading.
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StephenB, please check this again......Playground, civic center, or other area owned or operated by municipal, county, or state government for recreational purposes
(b)(1)(H)(i) is the exception for permit holders
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The most powerful handgun round is the 9mm, no need for anything else...period. It will blow your lung out of the body.....JOE BIDEN said so.
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Placing your safe against an outside wall gives more time and fire protection. Bolt it down. Mechanical lock. If size is a problem I prefer two smaller safes to one huge safe; twice the safety from fire, flood, and thiefs. Buy the best quality you can. Prefer the corner bolts.
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I'll just wait for a M&P that says 'Made in Tennessee"
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Still can’t stay away from my 1.0 Shield with 8 rd mag. But now I have switched to the Desantis Pegasus IWB holster. Versatile for appendix or 4 o’clock. If I get a wild hair will carry 1.0 compact in same brand holster.
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Out of stock when I checked today
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Doesn't included an option for employees of post-secondary educational institutes with ECP and notification of campus police for allowable carry.
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is the LOP adjustable; if so what is the range?
Mental health card for gun owners?
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