Warbird

BS, as I said in the above post, it is already the law that places who serve liquor by the drink must already sell 51% of receipts in food. THERE ARE NO TRUE BARS IN TENNESSEE.

This is complete and utter Bovine Scattology. HE should know better, but being a doofus moron he probably doesn't. There are no true bars in the state of Tennessee. If you sell liquor by the drink you MUST sell 51% of your business in food, or you just don't stay in business. You can sell beer and beer only w/o selling food. This idjit is just trying to scam someone into thinking he is really for it but for this wee bit of difference. What he argues doesn't exist in Tennessee. And there's also a provision that no matter where you go to eat, if you drink you are breaking the law if you are also carrying. DOh!

Read a short blurb about it. Sorry to hear it. According to the reports, which are always sketchy when moron reporters try to to report on aircraft anything, a witness said the plane was flat and spinning when it went into the ground. Very rare for a small twin engine plane to end up in a flat spin, while not just after takeoff or just before landing, or most often practicing stalls. No report on the type of aircraft but I will be interested to know if it is a Piper Twin Comanche. They had issues years ago with the ease of getting into flat spins in engine stall maneuvers. For one I would think they were not practicing stall maneuvers while on IFR in bad weather. Two, what some witness says was a plane coming in flat and spinning and what I would term a 'flat spin' which is a true aviation term may be different thing entirely. Sorry to see the 3 people lost their lives. Edit: According to this new story it was a Beech Baron. Maybe a guess is they lose an engine and fail to feather the dead prop fast enough or at all and perhaps did not throttle up the other engine in time. Who knows, bad weather but no lightning, don't know wind conditions this mornin or ceiling levels.

Stick to north and north west of Atlanta; Marietta, Alpharetta, etc. Also a considerable amount of the tech jobs are in that part of the Atl Metro area.

One thing that must be remembered is that gun owners were not defeated on their issue. It is an important distinction. The dems avoided the issue like the plague and the liberal gun hating leadership has more blue dogs to deal with and the yellow dogs are actually in the minority in the house. So they have an uphill fight in their own caucus and many members who do not want to vote on gun grabbing legislation, the issue has not swayed their way in recent years and many fear the assault weapon ban would again cost them control of the congress. However it is no times to let your guard down. The leadership right now feels emboldened. They and the new pres. are both extraordinarily arrogant and pushy. If push comes to shove they will force a vote over blue dog opposition and wont care of the repercussions, threatening no help in reelection efforts if they dont capitulate to leadership. There are good arguments to make for coming out of the gate and going after gun grabbing legislation and for waiting. We must be prepared now whether it is now or later.

pellet rifle is a great way to learn. They are quiet, no recoil, easy to handle. They don't shoot far. You can teach them all of the basics of handling and safety and they are accurate. It's a great way to learn. Then move them up to a .17 or a .22. You definitely do not want to teach a child just learning to handle a gun with a pistol. Too difficult, to easy to get hurt, much easier to make a big mistake and hurt someone else. Let them practice a while with a rifle, then let them try a pistol. A revolver is a fun and great pistol, and to buy one is one thing to have that as their first shooting experience is a bit much IMO.

At least when it's numb it doesn't hurt.... for a while.

Not sure what the huh is? I don't think much of the Mosin pure and simple. IF you compare it to its contemporaries, it isn't in the same class as a 1903 Springfield, much less a garand or Mauser action rifle. The comment of the clean vbore is that many people have bought those and tried to fire them before properly cleanining them. This is no small task in many Mosins, long and laborious. The kick of a Mosin which still hasn't had the barrel cleaned due to the restricted caliber of the bore and the additional pressure has been known to increase the recoil considerably. I also said I don't think of much of most Russian rifles in general, my preference. The only ones I liked that I have owned was the Dragunov, which is a good weapon though limited; and their machine gun, AK-47, a rifle with the basic ballistics of a 30-30. The AK is a heck of a good rifle for what it is designed to be.

Definitely a 4 bore and an 8 bore. Next to those, maybe a .470Nitro Express in a double rifle. Not sure of the hubbub with the Mosin Nagent. If the bore has been cleaned properly recoil shouldn't be a problem. The ammo and buttplate both add to it of course. The mosin buttplate, like its wood, sucks. But I never found it painful or that it really packs a punch. In general part of the Russian problem was they never could make a comfortable, quallity rifle with good wood. They were good at making a wachine gun with a 30-30 round that is pretty dad gum good by all battle standards. I have my share of AK's. I had a Dragunov. It was the best Russia had to offer IMO for a non-machine gun rifle. I also own a Russian O/U shotgun which is tighter than it should be, but is built like a tank. It is rough but the barrels are regulated well. IMO the worst recoil in pistols isn't the big ornery 454's and such, it is the airweight 38's and 357's, the derringers and such. Not the big dudes with the big bores. I did shoot a 454 Bowen short barrel once, thogh not an airweight, it sent a good shock through the body. I remember when you could buy those Mosin's at Roses's for $39 all day long. I bought a few, and my thoughts on them are mediocre at the very very best.

I had heard his problems requiring shutting down a while were not finance related, but health problems related. Hope he is back in top form now. HE is a good guy.

All old legislation is out the window. This year is a new legislative body, nothing rolls over. I'm sure someone will submit this bill again or something similar. Every year there are donzens of bills introduced by anti-gun rights scum. Usually there's one to ban all ammo that deforms when it hits something.

While I agree with your sentiment I will say the $16,500 they make as a state rep is hardly keeping them out of the soup line, nor would the loss of that job cost of most of them money. In fact most in Nashville lose money to go to Nashville from their more lucrative jobs back home. No, they do not do it for money, nor to implement YOUR ideas back home once there. They get elected to impose THEIR ideas upon YOU.

Who is your rep? Republican or dem? If a republican, it is time for an all out onslaught from everyone you know there. Do not allow this type of mealy mouthedness. OF course they can easily say they support all of that when Naifeh was in power and they knew it would never come to a vote. It is time to put up or go home. Hammer, hammer, hammer!!!

Yeah let him stop that drilling. Smart for coming together, since enjoys better than 75% American support. I love it. They can't help themselves but step over the line. Sign of things to come.

No. There was no basically about it.

Well it is nice to know that you will not support anyone or any group who would try and let your representatives know how you feel about legislation or educate them on any subject. No you go one step further and actually suggest citizens should not HAVE THE RIGHT to go to politicians and let them know anything. So they can simply do as they please in absolute ignorance of anything. The absolute and utter ignorance of who and what a lobbyist is only surpassed in this country by the ignorance and lack of any basic knowledge of economics for 90%+ of the population. You have no idea of what you say. You do not comprehend the ramifications of barring any lobbyist (ie citizen) from the system due simply to your complete lack of knowledge of our system at all. I hate to sound mean, I am not saying you are stupid, but ignorant of our system.

The republicans and democrats will each choose their nomination in their caucus. So when it gets to the floor, it's between the two nominees.

I'm a member. This was a tough election season and the NRA I know spent a ton of money on ads all over the country. You can see most of the ads they ran at www.gunbanobama.com. Some have wondered why they didn't run any Obama ads in Tennessee. Simply put, IMO Tennessee was in the win column all along. Think about it, where do you want the NRA to spend the donations you send to the ILA/PVF? Oh and by the way, membership to the NRA does not help them in election efforts. All media must come from the PAC. Membership dues cannot be spent on election media. Also thanks to the laws the NRA cannot solicit money for that PAC from outside their membership. But, back to the point where would you have them spend the millions they spent, in Tennessee where you could feel good, or in swing states where there was a chance to make a difference? I think the economy and a weak repub candidate were too much for them to overcome, they did make a diff in quite a few house and senate races across the country. Personally I want them spending their money where it can do good, not here where the pres and senate races were a lock and no serious house seats contended. That's smart, that's targeted.

Dem leadership said yesterday that they will push for the assault weapons ban again, since it was so effective last time, and make it permanent. They say they learned lessons from the past, ha. They can't help themselves but to go too far. This time it will be interesting, the congress is now full of blue dog dems who do not want to vote on this, they are in repub districts. But, leadership is all liberal from safe seats and they will #uck it up for the rest of their folks. Funny, I remember reading absolute bovine scattalogy on here from several that they wouldn't go after gun rights, no no..... This bill presently in the hopper isn't the one to worry about. A new one will be introduced in the new congress in Jan. Also, they plan to add all semi-autos to the ban list.

They didn't tell you to get out and vote because if it was membership or information research calling it would have been illegal. Only ILA can participate in politics.

As I posted on another thread. It is highly unlikely. For one any repubs who voted for Naifeh would be crushed in two yrs. Naifeh managed to get repub votes because they tried to appease him and knew they couldn't unseat him. Now they can win and some of those people will be chairs of committees, which Naifeh would never offer them. Also Naifeh was already on shaky ground with the dems, they have been tired of his high handed tactics as well as the Memphis west Tennessee stranglehold on leadership for soooooo long. He faced serious opposition even if he had kept a majority. I never say never with some of the squishes the repubs have in Nashville. But, I think it is HIGHLY unlikely he will retain any control. That said, keep up the pressure.

It is highly unlikely. For one any repubs who voted for Naifeh would be crushed in two yrs. Naifeh managed to get repub votes because they tried to appease him and knew they couldn't unseat him. Now they can win and some of those people will be chairs of committees. Also Naifeh was already on shaky ground with the dems, they have been tired of his high handed tactics as well as the Memphis west Tennessee stranglehold on leadership for soooooo long. He faced serious opposition even if he had kept a majority. I never say never with some of the squishes the repubs have in Nashville. But, I think it is HIGHLY unlikely he will retain any control.

When they come to session in January.

An Obama strategist essentially admitted this is all because Americans struggle with the term of what middle class means, but essentially middle class is anyone making 45-50k a y. More than that and you are upper middle. What a pile of crap! Oh by the way her name is Malia Lazu and if you want to see what Obama would have working for him, google her. She is as far leftist, radical, racist as they come. Anyone who isn't concerned about the type of people he has ties to and works with has to be blind deaf and have their head buried in the sand. I long for the days of Hilleary as an adversary when we disagreed on policy, but knew she was at least not a complete and total America hater. She wrote a book titled, "How to get stupid white men out of office" These are people with ties to the most radical anti-America activists not only in this country but outside as well. Lazu herself spnt a lot of time with Chavez in Venezuela. If you have any interesdt in keeping any real 2nd amendment rights, save your money and be prepared to fight and mobilize for your rights life come next year.

Summer study in an election year means file 13.