knewcomb

A house surrounded by treadmills attached to a generator. They can run fast all they want while giving me power.

Glad to see MLK made it to the trial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-k7oRlMbPno#at=97   Harvard Law Professor regarding the case and Angela Corey, 

What if the mace had not worked? Mauled arm? No longer able to close fist due to nerve damage from said bite? The events leading up to the lunging of the dog could have been handled better but thats irrelevant at the point that this 3 yr old 130lb "puppy" is about to sink its teeth in.

I hope they would.

In the full video, he through the intersection, cops tell him to turn it down because its an active scene, he pulls to the curb and gets out, doesnt turn his music down, the proceeds to stand on the corner. At no point in time did he comply or even attempt to.

Ive mentioned it in each of my posts. Whether you think its right or not, if its an active scene and you are causing a disturbance (loud music) and you are told to turn it down and you dont comply, you can be detained. Its really that simple

You think thats all he or she will say while they are up there?

Gotcha. So its a general term. I thought it was only individuals who actually saw or heard the incident. Im sure being the mother she would be allowed to be in the courtroom whether she was testifying or not. 

  What is she a witness of? 

  I may not be remembering correctly but didnt the GF say that Trayvon made it back to the fiance's house and then proceed to go back to Zimmerman? 

I dont think she is being called as a witness. She is just going to say that it was Trayvon screaming on the tape. 

Curious, if manslaughter carriers a 30 year sentence in Florida, what does Murder 2 carry?

It will be interesting to see the testimony from the mother. No doubt it will be emotionally charged and rightfully so. Im wondering what she can really say without bringing up TMs character, history, etc. At that point the door would be open for the defense

Any idea how many people sign up for these?

The video in the OP doesnt show the complete event..   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI The man was instructed to turn down his music, he then proceeded to pull his car over and get out. Did he turn his music down or off? No he didnt, He did not try to remove it. In fact, it was the exact opposite. 

Once again, he wasnt being detained for recording. He was being detained because he didnt turn the music down after they had asked him to. It was causing a disturbance with active police business. Its called noncompliance. Thats what law he was breaking. Recording had absolutely nothing. He was purposefully interferring. Do a little background on him and you will find a history of this.

Why do you keep bringing up him recording? Thats not why he was being detained. There were plenty individuals there recording. Nothing was said to them

  He wasnt cuffed for recording. He was cuffed for noncompliance, which was completely justified given the situation. If you have an armed suspect held up with hostages you dont need some idiot blaring his music just to be an ass, He had plenty of time to secure his dog. He shoved it in the car and didnt bother to tie it down or roll the windows up, Roughly? They didnt chase him down, he met them. He should have used that time to tie the dog down or roll his windows up and let them come to him, 

Here is a screengrab right before the shot. The dog is literally inches from the cops arm with his mouth wide open. They may have not had pepper spray. Even if they did have it, its not unreasonable to think that it may not stop the dog trying to protect its master. IMO, its a terrible situation, but a dog like that can do serious damage to human flesh. It wasnt shot until it was literally right on the officer with his mouth open ready to bite. They didnt shoot it as soon as it popped out of the car.

The shooting occurred about 7:15 p.m. Sunday at 137th Street and Jefferson Avenue about two hours after police surrounded a house where a gunman had robbed two people inside. A crowd of spectators gathered in response to the large police response, which included several police Hawthorne resident Leon Rosby describes the moment his dog was shot numerous times by Hawthorne police. (Robert Casillas/Staff Photographer) cars and the department's Bearcat armored vehicle. As some, including resident Gabriel Martinez, aimed their cellphones at the scene to record it, Rosby drove up in his rented black Mazda. Swain said Rosby stopped in the intersection with music blaring from his windows. Officers told him to turn down the music because they were trying to hear what was happening down the street. Rosby pulled forward, parked and got out with his dog, but left the music still playing loudly. "It's distracting the officers," Swain said. "It's interfering with what they are able to hear. It's not just a party call. It's an armed robbery call. The officers need to hear what's going on with the people being called out of the residence. That music in Hawthorne resident Leon Rosby talks about his encounter with Hawthorne Police Sunday at 137th St. and Jefferson Ave. that ended with his Rottweiler Max being shot to death by officers. Rosby stands near the blood spattered sidewalk where his dog was killed. (Robert Casillas / Staff Photographer) his car is bleeding over and it's distracting them." Martinez said the Usher song "Tell Me Again" was looping over and over. Rosby, who pulled out his own cellphone to record the police activity, did not lower the volume. "I do apologize if I didn't immediately comply. The music may have been a little loud but I was complying," Rosby said. "I said, 'Sir, I want to make sure nobody's civil rights were being violated.' " A neighbor, who asked not to be identified, said the officers asked him to turn the music down, but he refused. Rosby, she said, responded, "It's my (expletive) radio!" Rosby, 52, denied cursing, saying he was a Christian.   When I say harrasing, I mean he was interfering with active police business. He wasnt arrested for recording. 

Imagine if Americans flooded Penn Ave. in protest of their elected officials not keeping their promises like the Egyptians have after one year. 

As maroonandwhite said, its easy to sit back and armchair this situation. Could spray be used? Could a taser be used? Better question, could the owner have minded his own business and went on his way and not harrased the cops who were obviously on police business? If a dog lunges at me, and im carrying, thats a dead dog. This wasnt some cop just shooting some dog for no reason. Its a 100lb rott who was in the act of lunging. Its unfortunate that the dog had to die but I dont blame the officer one bit.

Looks like he was getting cuffed for noncompliance. Seems there was a raid or something going on. Either way, the dog is dead because of its owner. He had plenty of opportunity to just leave but he didnt. Didnt roll up the windows or secure the dog. Like a good dog, it wanted to protect its owner. Was the cop suppose to let the dog maul his arm? I think not. This wasnt your friendly neighborhood lab.

In todays society, if you are silent, you might as well be guilty because thats how it will be twisted. Its unfortunate.