TripleDigitRide

Would it be out of line for me to ask why your interest in this case is strong enough that you're willing to plan a trip to Florida specifically for this trial?

Ah, forget it. Yeah, there's probably no need to keep this going. We're all pretty set in our opinions on the subject. The chance of changing anyone's mind is slim to none, so this whole thing is going to continue going in circles. Peace.

Give Kris a great, big Thank You from all of us here on TGO.

They either lose money when outside companies can't support the BSA's anti-gay views, or they'll lose money if and when chartered organizations (Latter-day Saints, Methodist Church, etc) decide to leave because they they can't support the BSA decision to allow gays.    To me, based on everything I've read here and elsewhere, this appears to boil down to money. With that being said, the way I see it, either the pro-gays are going to force them to lose money by way of pressuring outside donors (UPS, for example) to stop funding the BSA, or the anti-gays are going to bring in additional money to offset the lost revenue due to the lack of outside donors. The money is going to have to come from somewhere. Now it's just a matter of which side wants it more. You can't turn back time, and the pro-gay side isn't going to simply disappear, so the anti-gay side better start raking in the dough. Sadly, organizations like the BSA can't sustain on morals alone. 

Yep! I just got done watching 50-60 of his videos, and people who know he's there try to show off, or they look over at him instead of the road. The end result is often the same.

This guy has some great videos.

I've scraped the foot boards on mine a few times, but I've always been smart enough to ease out of it a bit. He was scraping for a good while, so he has no excuse.

If this is all about money, then I guess the BSA supporters need to start raising more money. If you can garner the same type of enthusiasm and support that Chick-fil-A received, the BSA wouldn't have much to worry about. 

My sister was riding a snowmobile a few months ago, and when she started to roll down into a ditch, she had the bright idea to put her arm out there. Snap, crackle, pop, major surgery to repair arm and elbow, wearing a Terminator-looking arm brace, 6+ months of physical therapy, still not back to normal...

Hopefully, between the split second that picture was taken and they hit the pavement, she pulled that arm back it and took it like a woman.

Dinner at USMC's house!

I knew LMT made their own, but I'm not sure about CMT.

Not a bad option. How 'bout CMT, from right here in Tennessee? Then again, I don't even know if they make their own lowers.

Should we know to keep an eye out for a certain company with questionable character?

Psssst! I've got 100 Lincolns with your name written all over them.  :shhh: 

Between my TGO friends and my family and friends from my homeland, y'all are about to give me a complex. One side thinks I'm too liberal because of my views on gays and abortion, and the other side thinks I'm too conservative because of my views on guns, welfare, immigration and healthcare.  :slapfight:  

As Bill just mentioned, this has long been a tactic in both the political and corporate worlds. This didn't start with Obama. The idea is to keep so many patsies between folks like you and I and the head honchos, that there's always someone else to take the fall. Until we, The People, force those head honchos to take responsibility, we will continue down the same path, no matter who's at the top.

for a whole lot less, I'm sure.

HOLY ****! $100 for a twisted gas tube?  :stunned: 

What's the purpose of this?

That's what I'm thinking. Based on the article you posted earlier, in order the BSA has been caving in one direction or another for a very long time. And as far as I can tell, much of the caving has been due to religious pressures; from one religion who can't agree with another. You're only angry when it doesn't cave in your favor. 

Put on the jake brake for a moment, please. Now you're saying the south has culpability, or that I live in the south. Go live in Philly for a while and let me know what you think. Go in any region of this country and tell me with a straight face it's worse here with some factual evidence. People extend bias, or discrimination, for many more reasons than you may realize. That doesn't mean it is bad, or it is illegal discrimination. If you get hurt by the crowd you are around, you can always find another crowd. That's my point about the gays, and anyone who wants to force his or her way into another's organization.   I'm simply basing MY opinion on MY life experiences. I lived up north for 18 years, the south for 18 year, and have done a whole lot of traveling. I don't have quite the years under my belt as you do, so there's always a possibility that my views on any given subject will change between now and then. I'm a fairly hard-headed person who has some conviction. I'd like to think I'm a better person than to allow a group of people who I have little in common to brainwash me into being their pawn so I can carry out their dirty work. It appears you think otherwise.

No, the only thing it proved was it's willingness to be forced by outside political factions to bend over to political correctness and further erode one's rights for another's. Private organizations, by their nature, are discriminatory. Now, if you want to call that bad, I won't waste the time to argue. Go try to join the Belle Meade Country Club. Discrimination is also found in other types of organizations like the Sons of the American Revolution, which I am eligible to be a member of. Exclusions of groups are acceptible and are discriminatory. By the way you used the word "discriminatory", you make it all bad. That takes years of hearing crap and believing it, without even realizing it. The word bias is completely discriminatory. Words have meaning. Yes, I was using the word in its broad sense. I figured those of us in this conversation would understand what inwas getting at. And last I heard, the Belle Meade Country Club only recently accepted its first token black member. Oh, how the times are a changin'. Does it always have to be a matter of caving to political pressure or correctness? Can't it just possibly be that people simply change their mind or views on any given subject? Does a person or group who change their opinion on a subject automatically make them a lesser person, or only if they don't coincide with your way of thinking on a subject you are passionate about?

While there will undoubtedly be some children who continue to make fun of gay scouts, I don't think it will be nearly as prominent as some may think. The younger generations are far more accepting and tolerant of gays. Like it or not, it's obviously becoming more mainstream by the day. They are seeing more openly gay students in their schools and circle of friends, on TV, in society in general. Remember, not every part of the country has the same deep-rooted history of prejudice and discrimination as the south. We sometimes get caught up in our own little bubble and forget there's a whole other world out there.

That wasn't my intent. My point was that the BSA has proven its willingness to be a discriminatory organization in the past, yet they survived the changes of the times. I doubt this ordeal will be no different.