robbiev

Thanks! In my post above, the part about the parks was simply a direct copy and paste from the law. Even though there are some differences of opinion, it seems fairly clear to me that the law translates as "any public park, playground, or civic center owned by any city, state, county, or other municipality."

If you beat somebody up with a 2x4, that would be deadly force.

Here are the basic places that you CANNOT carry legally. Anywhere that serves alcohol (already discussed). Any room where any judicial proceeding is being held. Schools and school property. This also includes the BoE. There is a statute that allows you have a gun in your vehicle if you are on the property as long as the gun stays in the car, and as long as the gun is not "handled." On the grounds of any public park, playground, civic center or other building facility, area or property owned, used or operated by any municipal, county or state government, for recreational purposes. On the grounds of any public park, playground, civic center or other building facility, area or property owned, used or operated by any municipal, county or state government, or instrumentality thereof, for recreational purposes. Any property that has been properly posted. You can also read most of the laws here: http://www.rrmemphis.com/laws.html

This is not necessarily true. If you use a knife against another person, it's still deadly force. You have to be able to justify the use of deadly force, regardless of what type of instrument you use to inflict the force. Basically, deadly force is defined by the result, not by the instrument used to obtain the result, so it depends on the situation. Also, saying "don't come one step closer" does not necessarily justify deadly force. Again, it depends on the situation. Also, on the flip side, it is not "required" by any law that you must say this (many people think it's required).

Sometimes, fast and steady wins the race.

I was going to try to shoot this drill last weekend when I was at an outdoor range, but there was a match going on so I didn't get to. I did get a chance to shoot something very similar tonight. It was one target at 3 yards and one target at 5 yards to the right of the first target, but not quite at 3:00, because it was in an indoor range, therefore the caveat is, it was not quite the same, but it was really close. My raw time was 3.87, with one point down. This was an IDPA match, so my total time was 4.37 (and it was shot on an IDPA target because that's all we have). That translates to one shot out of the A-zone, which is not quite the same as the IPSC target. The one shot that was out was barely out, but it was still out, and it was the very last shot I fired. This was shot no concealment, with a stock Sig 226 in a Kydex holster (Uncle Mike's I think) at about the 3:30 - 4:00 o'clock position. I don't have the everyone else's scores, but I will have them by the weekend (or I should) and I'll get them posted on my website if anyone is interested in looking at them.

I have two 229s and two 226s. I've owned several others, a couple of 229s and a 228. I a huge Sig fan. They really work well for me.

A friend of mine has one for his 1911. I think it's fun to shoot, but other than that, I don't have any use for it. I think it's more of a novelty than anything.

I can't say for sure. I would guess no, it hasn't changed, but that's a guess. Even though a car may be considered extended personal property, physical property owned or controlled by a company (or individual) is THEIR personal property, so they can still set the rules, so I'd guess it depends on which supercedes the other. I do know that two of big parcel shipping companies (the big brown and the big purple) search cars from time to time, and, as recently as just a couple of months ago, I know personally of someone who was fired for having a rifle in his car. It was hidden in the trunk, and was found after a security supervisor made him open the trunk. I would add, that most companies probably very seldom conduct random searches, and if you work for a company that's in an office building but doesn't own the property, they (the company you work for) probably has no right to search your car, but the owners of the building/parking lot might. And, along the same lines as others have said, if you don't tell anyone, and you are discrete, it's probably never going to be an issue. (seperate topic) I had a manager who came and took a gun class at the range where I work part-time. I was there and he found out I'm a gun person. He was a gun person too, so I didn't worry too much about it. Unfortunately, he started wearing an empty holster around the office, and the other managers got freaked out about it became an issue. Still, it never caused a problem for me. Later that same year, I had a different manager ask me about how to get a permit (he found out from the first guy I worked at a range). A few days later, he came to me and said he had checked the company policy book and found out company policy did not allow guns in his car, even when he was away from work, because it was a company supplied vehicle, and asked me if I carried a gun at work, because he didn't realize the company had a specific policy against it. I gave him my standard reply, "Well, I wear a gun any time I'm not at work," which was good enough for him.

Generally speaking, a private company can do anything they want to on their own property. Warrants apply to search by police officers or government agents, as do the amendments to the constitution. If a private company decides they want to search vehicles that are on their own property, there's not much you can do about it, except refuse, which may cost you a job. I worked for a company a few years ago that fired a high level manager because he refused to allow a $5.50 per hour security guard search his vehicle. He sued to try to get his job back, and lost the case based on that exact same precident; private companies can set (basically) any rules they want.

I wear Perry suspenders, which are designed to hook onto a belt (at least the ones I wear are). I wear a concealment vest all the time, so i don't really worry too much about how it looks, since no one can see them anyway.

I voted as "concealed." I carry concealed the vast majority of the time for several reasons. Since it's illegal to carry in an establishment that sells alcohol, I have to be concealed when if I was going to carry somewhere like that. Not, saying I do, mind you. Just saying "IF." I have a bad habit of going out late at night to get gas, and I don't bother to put on a concealment garment. From time to time, I have stopped in a local donut shop or convenience store while I was out, and never had a problem. The other night, I went into an all night Autozone with no problem. No one even looked twice. BUT, it's very rare that I would do that.

Thanks for all the replies. And thanks for the comment. It's always nice to know people actually look at my webpage. 8^) RR

I am going to try this in the next few days. Just so I'm sure I've got the scenario right: Two targets total. One directly in front of me at 3 yards, one to my right (3 o'clock position) at 4.5 - 5 yards. Draw, engage one target with 5 rounds, reload, then engage the other target with 5 rounds. Correct? Just a guess; I think I can do it with my standard carry rig, unconcealed, in under 6 seconds.

Hi there. I found this site while I was searching for something else. I'm Robbie Robinson from Memphis. I'm on many of the other gun boards, although lately, due to my schedule, I haven't had time to post much. I'm a shooting instructor and competitive shooter and I have a web page with a lot of gun info on it, and as soon as I can, I'll add a link to this site. http://www.rrmemphis.com