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  1. If Rudy Giuliani is the GOP nominee, I'm staying home election day and storing some guns and ammo in sealed containers and hiding them. Maybe I'll go and vote for a write in but IMO, Rudy Giuliani would be no different than Hillary or Obama. I couldn't hold my nose tight enough to vote for him, I'll just prepare to survive the next 4 years the best I can.

  2. They work reliably and probably never break. Ever. And pretty inexpensive.

    That's the best I can say about them. Otherwise they are clunky and ugly and very bulky. The steel versions are very heavy.

    Ruger never could come up with a good carry gun. Part of it was Bill Ruger Sr's famous dictum: No honest man needs a gun smaller than a canned ham.

    Well, I can't comment about bulky since I started carrying a Glock 21SF. It took a while to get comfortable with the grip and I hear the old 21s were even a bigger grip. Ruger has the reputation of having the toughest revolvers, I guess that goes with their auto's too.

  3. I have one with a hammer also, it's the absolute toughest little snubby there is. Mine has a strong DA trigger pull, soon I am going to buy a lighter spring from Wolf Springs and install it. I keep it loaded with .357 158 grain semi-jacketed HPs, I always feel well protected when I carry it.

  4. A few months ago I traded in my full size Kimber 1911 for a Glock 21SF. Now I would have kept my Kimber but it was a $$ issue, I loved to shoot the Kimber, it was the most accurate handgun I have ever had but I hardly carried it. The reason I wanted the Glock soo bad was because of their reputation for reliability. Frankly, I couldn't trust the Kimber not to malfunction on me,(not going into full battery at times), Now it was reliable if I kept it wet with oil, fired quality factory hollow points but the occasions where it did fail didn't give me full confidence in it as a carry weapon, I know I could have gotten it tweaked a little by a gunsmith. Also I never cared for grip safeties, in a stressful situation with a fast draw one may not get the perfect grip and the SA trigger pull was too light for a stressful encounter IMO. I have had it double fire a couple of times because of the recoil and light SA trigger. I wanted the Glock21 because 1st, 13 rounds of .45 instead of 8, 2nd, toughness and reliability, 3rd, a not soo light DA trigger with takeup, 4th, don't have to oil it every week weather I shoot it or not, 5th, still good accuracy although not as good as the Kimber.

    I checked the chamber and it is fully supported, I have also been firing quite a few +P Honaday 230 grain HPs with no problem. That's what I keep it loaded with for carry now. I will not shoot re-manufactured ammo and I know not to shoot lead bullets out of it. I'm sure some will think I'm crazy or stupid for trading my Kimber for it but my motivation was practicality, I mean what good was the Kimber if I never carried it.

  5. Well as some of you knew, I had back surgery yesterday the 27th.

    Basically, I had a huge herniated disc in my lower back that was pressing against my right sciatic nerve which runs from your spine down to your toes. It was causing moderate to severe pain all the way down the back of my leg, from the top of my butt to my toes. It had been going on since November.

    After physical therapy and a series of epidural injections (which helped, but only for a short period of time), the pain returned and my doctor and I decided surgery was the best option. I was very confident in him, and that confidence was justified because I had surgery yesterday, and I have no leg pain at all now. The procedure was a microdiscectomy which trims off the protruding disc piece. The incision is only about 1" long. I felt very good about him from the first visit on..

    My back hurts at the injection site which is to be expected, but I feel good enough to go to a cookout at my friend's house right down the road tonight. I can't drive of course since I can't twist my body, and the pain killers I am on prevent my from driving, too.

    Anyways, I'm doing a ton better. Surgery is weird.. give you an injection, the next thing you know you are waking up in recovery. Everything went fine yesterday, and I am feeling good today.

    Thanks for all the well wishes. I want to get back out to the range soon.

    I had the disc between C6 and C7 in my neck removed March 12th and the vertabreas fused together, I know what you are going through friend. I think mine is working okay but I have a bad day every now and then but that's after I do some work I shouldn't be doing right now. Be careful about yard work etc. I should take my own advice.

    What really sucked is before I got the herniated disc removed I went to the Cheatham range and shot my Moisen Nagant and had a sharp pain like a knife run through my neck and down my arm, bad enough to end my session. I was afraid I wouldn't be able to shoot any long gun with any recoil anymore. I haven't tried it out since then, I'm going to be very bummed if it still hurts. I already had to quit skydiving in the 90s because of my worn out back but it never hurt my lower back to shoot rifles and shotguns, only my upper back and neck.:)

  6. Am I mistaken? I thought they couldn't access our HCP information on a routine stop... and that we had no duty to inform.

    I know the permit number is the same as the driver's license number, so I assume this was done for a reason, but I didn't think they had that capability yet.

    Doesn't much matter to me anyhow, as I inform the officer regardless, more of an intellectual point for me personally.

    Before the Cheatham Co. Sheriffs got digital radios I used to listen to my scanner and when listening to a traffic stop the dispatcher always told the officer either negative or positive on handgun permit.

  7. You also have to with the XD. The difference is that the XD you have to fully retract the slide and lock it open as the first step. Which should be the first step anyway, to make sure the chamber is clear.

    If you don't mind me being sarcastic here, my proceedure to clean my handguns, well all my guns is first and foremost make sure the gun is unloaded before I start to disassemble it. I believe that would greatly reduce any chance of accidental discharge no matter what the firearm is.

    With my XD I always lock the slide back and visually look in the chamber then push the take down lever up and ease the slide forward then pull the trigger. Even then it's always pointed at the floor.

  8. <TABLE width="90%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="10%">HB2184 by Niceley</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="30%">JUDICIARY COMMITTEE:

    Recommended for passage w/amendments- refer to: Calendar & Rules Committee </TD></TR><TR></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="20%">5/9/2007 </TD></TR><TR></TR><TR></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="50%"> Ayes................................................6</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="50%"> Noes................................................4</TD></TR><TR></TR><TR></TR><TR></TR><TR></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="50%"> Representatives voting aye were: Bass, DuBois, Fincher, Lundberg, Matheny, Watson -- 6.</TD></TR><TR></TR><TR></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="50%"> Representatives voting no were: Briley, Buck, Coleman, Sontany -- 4.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    I thought Buck was a 2nd Amendment supporter. :)

    Or is he just one of Naefeh's butt kissing cronies?

  9. I also e-mailed my Rep Sunday night and actually got a response from him Sunday night. That's impressive to me, I'm glad I voted for him.

    It has made it through the first few committees, but I believe will face some difficulty getting through the Calendar and Rules Committee to the House floor for a full vote. I will continue to do everything I can to help it along. It is a good bill.

    Phillip Johnson

    Now checking on the bill today this is what I found.

    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left width="35%">Actions Taken on HB2184

    </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">Action Date

    </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left width="35%">Actions Taken on SB2143

    </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">Action Date

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE width="90%" align=center><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="35%">Re-ref. to Finance, Ways and Means</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">5/22/2007</TD><TD vAlign=top width="35%">R/S #83(8) to be heard in S. Jud. Comm. on 5/22/2007</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">5/17/2007</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="35%">Placed on cal. Calendar & Rules Committee for 05/22/2007</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

  10. I have never heard of a problem like that in any quality magazine... Just static tension won't weaken a spring, it's when the spring is cycled that it begins to yield. Springs are cheap... Heck, for an AK, mags are cheap!

    I always keep 1/2 of my magazines for nearly all of my guns loaded. Never had a problem.

    I have 6-30 round mags. I want to get a few more, maybe I'm paranoid but I have a feeling AK mags may be hard to find some day.

    I was listening to Colonel Hackworth on FOX a while back before he died, he told a story while in Vietnam he and some men came across a dead Vietcong, he had been dead for many months or a year and he dug his AK out of the dirt. It had rusted and was caked with mud and dirt. He said he forced the bolt back a chambered a new round then emptied the mag of about 20 rounds on full auto just to show the men what the AK was famous for. I seriously you could do that with an AR.

  11. I can get my hands on a Japanese 7.62 for a really good price! Anyone know what these things are worth? I dont have any other info, just that its japanese and its a 7.62! My understanding, its in excellent shape.

    I'm assuming it's a WW2 era. The only thing I have heard about Japanese firearms is that they only have collector value. I have heard that function and quality they were junk. I saw a Tales Of The Gun episode once where some guy had a Nambu pistol that had the sear on the outside of the pistol, he touched it with his finger and it fired. He made a comment that probably a few Japanese officers shot themselves in the leg holstering this pistol. :stare:

    Now if it's new then I have no idea, I haven't seen any new Japanese firearms.

  12. Norinco builds some quality firearms... too bad they are no longer imported, especially their 1911 clones.

    Hang on to that Mak. It will give you good service for a long time, based on their reputation.

    I've gotten alot of enjoyment out of it.

    Here's a question, not exactly about AKs but AK magizines. Is there any truth to what some say that if you leave magizines loaded for a long time it will weaken the springs? I keep them loaded for the next range session but I haven't shot it in over 4 months.

  13. message sent to:

    <TABLE class=bd cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.larry.miller@legislature.state.tn.us, </TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.john.hood@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.nathan.vaughn@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.joe.armstrong@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.stratton.bone@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.tommie.brown@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.frank.buck@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.glen.casada@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.charles.curtiss@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.lois.deberry@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.john.deberry@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.craig.fitzhugh@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.ulysses.jones@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.mike.kernell@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.mark.maddox@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.steve.mcdaniel@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.michael.mcdonald@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.jason.mumpower@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">speaker.jimmy.naifeh@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.gary.odom@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.doug.overbey@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.phillip.pinion@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.randy.rinks@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.leslie.winningham@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.rob.briley@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.kent.coleman@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.janis.sontany@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.eddie.bass@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.tom.dubois@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.henry.fincher@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.jon.lundberg@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.judd.matheny@legislature.state.tn.us,</TD><TD align=middle></TD></TR><TR class=msgolds width="80%"><TD width="90%">rep.eric.watson@legislature.state.tn.us</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    Here's my e-mail I just sent to the above reps.

    Sir or Madam Representative:

    As a citizen and voter, and carry permit holder in the State of Tennessee I would like to encourage you to support and vote on the passage of HB2184, the park carry bill. Permit holders are some of the most law abiding and responsible citizens in the state and realistically the is no reason for anyone to fear us carrying or keeping our handguns while visiting any state park in Tennessee. There is no difference with permit holders carrying in a park than it is while shopping in a Walmart, Kroger, or our local Mapco etc. Not only would citizen permit holders have the option to defend ourselves from criminal attacks to our life and health, but often we have had to pass up the opportunity to take a nice relaxing drive through a park on a weekend just because we had or handguns in our vehicles when we were out shopping ect. It seems that lately many have some false idea that permit holders are a bunch of cowboy yahoos by statements and opinions they have made, or decisions they have made. I and many other permit holders find this personally insulting and offensive. As I have said permit holders are some of the most law abiding and responsible citizens in the state who have undergone a very strict and extensive background check, not to forget the time and money we have donated to the state just to get our permits. Voting against this bill for one makes no sense and is also a slap in the face of law abiding, hard working, tax paying Tennesseans.

    Again I strongly urge you to support and vote for passage of HB2184 and strongly encourage the Governor to sign it.

    Thank You:

    Jon

  14. I bought a MAK-90 in 94 for $450, fired several thousand rounds through it with no problems. I know it's a cheap Norinco but it's surprisingly accurate out to 100 yards. I don't know what todays prices for one is.

  15. HB 2184 by *Niceley. SB 2143 by *Burchett, *Crowe.)

    Handgun Permits - Allows any resident, who has a valid handgun carry permit, to possess his or her handgun while within the boundaries of any state park. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13 and Title 70.

    Actions Taken on HB2184

    Action Date

    Actions Taken on SB2143

    Action Date

    Placed on s/c cal Criminal Practice and Procedure of JUD for 04/18/20074/11/2007P2C, ref. to S. Jud Comm.2/22/2007

    Firearms and Ammunition - Removes authorization to restrict firearm and ammunition sales during state's emergency and disaster situations. - Amends TCA Section 58-2-107.

    Summary for HB 1285 / SB 1597

    Actions Taken on HB1285

    Action Date

    Actions Taken on SB1597

    Action Date

    Placed on cal. Judiciary Committee for 04/18/20074/11/2007Passed S. as am., Ayes 32, Nays 03/28/2007Rec. for pass. if am. by s/c ref. to Judiciary Committee4/11/2007Am. withdrawn.(Amendment 1 - SA0097)3/28/2007

    These two seem to still be alive right now. SB1597 passed the Senate.

    HB 1143 by *Buck. SB 1885 by *Jackson.)

    Firearms and Ammunition - Authorizes person with handgun carry permit to possess handgun within the confines of a restaurant licensed to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises provided such person is not consuming alcohol while in the restaurant. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13.

    Actions Taken on HB1143

    Action Date

    Actions Taken on SB1885

    Action Date

    Assigned to s/c Criminal Practice and Procedure of JUD2/21/2007P2C, ref. to S. Jud Comm.2/12/2007

    Don't know what the deal on this one is. Nafieh killed one just like it a few years ago in his a$$ kissing sub committee before allowing a floor vote. He called it, and got the local media to call it, "The Guns In Bars Bill" just to scare niave people into believing it was something it was not.

    HB0067

    by *Turner M. SB0153 by *Jackson, *Kilby, *Ketron, *Crowe.)

    Firearms and Ammunition - Prohibits employers and nongovernmental entities from prohibiting persons possessing a handgun carry permit from transporting and storing a firearm out of sight in a locked vehicle on any property set aside for vehicles. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13.

    Actions Taken on HB0067

    Action Date

    Actions Taken on SB0153

    Action Date

    Taken Off Notice For Cal. in s/c Criminal Practice and Procedure of JUD of Judiciary Committee 2/28/2007Taken Off Notice For Cal. in: S. Jud Comm.2/20/2007

    Don't know if that means it's dead.

    HB0132 by *Bell, *Overbey, *Williams, *Gresham, *Matheny, *Hawk. SB0053 by *Finney R., *Crowe.)

    Game and Fish Laws - Authorizes persons with handgun carry permits to possess firearms in all public hunting areas, refuges, wildlife management areas, and national forests managed by the state. - Amends TCA Title 70.

    Actions Taken on HB0132

    Action Date

    Actions Taken on SB0053

    Action Date

    Placed on cal. Judiciary Committee for 04/18/20074/11/2007Rec. for pass. w/ am., ref. to S. Cal. Comm. Ayes 8, Nays 0 PNV 04/11/2007

    Looks like it passed the Senate today.

  16. http://www.wkrn.com/nashville/news/bill-passes-tennesseans-can-keep-guns-in-emergencies/85773.htm

    Bill Passes, Tennesseans Can Keep Guns In Emergencies

    Tennesseans will get to keep their weapons to defend themselves in future disasters and emergencies.

    Tennessee lawmakers shot down a standing law allowing the governor to confiscate guns.

    Louisiana had the same law and enacted it in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

    Post-Katrina New Orleans experienced a dramatic rise in violence. To curb the chaos, Louisiana government ordered all citizens to turn in their guns.

    Wednesday, Tennessee senators assured residents of the Volunteer State they will keep their guns, even in a State of Emergency.

    Republican Senator Mark Norris proposed the bill that bans local...

    ...officials from taking weapons

    He said, “You can't complain about a vote of 32 to nothing, I’d say the state supports our Second Amendment rights, our right to bear arms, and that's important at all times, especially in times of a state emergency."

    Some local gun owners are happy the bill passed.

    Senator Norris said, "We can't have happen here what happened in New Orleans after Katrina. We don't want the government to take our guns away. We need them in times like that."

    J. Buford Tune supports the bill. He said, "You’re gonna have to do what you have to do at the time to protectyourself and your property."

    On the other side of the bill, some said during a chaotic event such as Hurricane Katrina, the government needs to step in and keep the peace.

    Russell Charles Ross said, "With cases like Louisiana and the deep south, yes, guns in the wrong hands, death... As a country, we're still cleaning up after the mess."

    Initially, Governor Phil Bredesen showed concern about giving up power during statewide emergencies, but that has changed.

    The governor is not expected to veto the measure.

    Abdelladif Ali supports the measure as well. He said, “I originally from Sudan inAfrica… We had a lot of problems with the government making laws. We don't need that there."

    Before the bill passed, the governor had the authority to confiscate weapons and wouldn't allow citizens to buy guns and ammunition during natural disasters or a declared emergency.

    Senator Norris said his bill protects Tennesseans' constitutional rights.

    In 2005, the National Brady Campaign to prevent gun violence gave Tennessee a grade of D when it comes to laws to prevent gun violence.

    For instance, safety training is not required for handgun buyers and buyers aren't required to be familiar with gun laws or know how to safelyhandle a gun.

    There are no consumer safety standards on guns, Tennessee does not require guns to be sold with a child safety or personalized lock to stop the gun from being used by anyone besides the owner.

    Also, guns aren't required to be registered with law enforcement and police do not have a record of how many guns are in the state, or where they are.

    So did it pass Nafieh's royal permission in the house yet? I check the state legislative web site but it confuses me more than informes me. I hope it's ready for Bredesens desk. I still haven't forgiven Bredesen for his original opposition, he knew very well what that bill was about all along.

    Now lets pressure our reps into passing bills that ease restrictions on carry permits such as being able to carry in parks and in restaurants that serve alcohol.

  17. Also,

    Tennessee has the Good Samaritan Act of 1999. Tennessee Code 29-34-201.

    (a) Any person who is injured while committing a felony on the real property of another is barred from recovery of actual or punitive damages resulting from injuries, either accidentally or intentionally inflicted by the owner, lawful occupier or tenant of such property, which the person recieves while committing or attempting to commit a felony.

    (:) A person who accidentally or intentionally causes property damage to or inflicts injury or death upon the perpetrator of a criminal offense is absolutly immune from civil liability for the payment of monetary damages from such persons actions if at the time such damage, injury or death occured.

    © The offenses for which such immunity applies are:

    1. any criminal homicide,

    2. aggravated rape,

    3. kidnapping,

    4. aggravated kidnapping,

    5. especially aggravated kidnapping,

    6. especially agravated burglary,

    7. aggravated robbery,

    8. especially aggravated robbery,

    9. carjacking, and

    10. attempt to commit first or second degree murder.

  18. Tennessee code 39-11-611. Self-defense

    39-11-611. Self-defense. -- (a) A person is justified in threatening or using force against another person when and to the degree the person reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The person must have a reasonable belief that there is an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury. The danger creating the belief of imminent death or serious bodily injury must be real, or honestly believed to be real at the time, and must be founded upon reasonable grounds. There is no duty to retreat before a person threatens or uses force.

    (:) Any person using force intended or likely to cause death orserious bodily injury within their own residence is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or serious bodily injury to self, family or a member of the household when that force is used against another person, not a member of the family or household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence, and the person using the force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred.

    © The threat or use of force against another is not justified if the person consented to the exact force used or attempted by the other individual.

    (d) The threat or use of force against another is not justified if the person provoked the other individual's use or attempted use of unlawful force, unless:

    (1) The person abandons the encounter or clearly

    communicates to the other the intent to do so; and

    (2) The other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the person.

    (e) The threat or use of force against another is not justified to resist a halt at a roadblock, arrest, search, or stop and frisk that the person knows is being made by a law enforcement officer,unless:

    (1) The law enforcement officer uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest, search, stop and frisk,or halt; and

    (2) The person reasonably believes that the force is immediately necessary to protect against the law enforcement officer's use or attempted use of greater force than necessary.

    [Acts 1989, ch. 591, { 1; 1990, ch. 1030. { 8.]

  19. Bredesen said he had questioned some language in the bill, but that it sounds "reasonable."

    Please allow me to translate what he said.

    Being a yankee democrat, I forgot I was in the south where the idea of opposing 2nd Amendment rights goes over like a turd in a punch bowl so I will retract my horrible mistake before it bites me and my fellow democrats in the ars.
  20. Either Bredesen got an earful from Tennesseans and decided it was a bad political move to oppose this bill or he has a secret little deal with Naifeh so he wont have to even touch it and try to save face. If it fails in the house then I like the idea of painting state Democrats as gun grabbers, still a bad political move for them.

    I recieved this e-mail this morning from my rep.

    I strongly support this bill as well. Thank you for your input and support.

    Phillip Johnson

  21. I mostly worried about it passing the Democrat-controlled House. Especially with Naifeh in charge. :stunned: Bredesen won't be in the next election. He's barred from running again due to term limits. That is what spared us from getting that turncoat Sundquist again.

    I believe the next election, Naifeh's up for re-election. Everybody should really get involved weather you are in his district or not to campaign against him. I like the idea of campaigning against any Democrat running for Governor and let the state government know that when the Governor turns his back on his employers it has ramifications for all in his party. We shouldn't wait either, or be too nice and polite about it. Politics isn't nice and polite, to beat them we have to crawl down in the mud with them and fight.

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