TGO David

Have you tried the Smith & Wesson M&P series? The grip on them is phenomenal, IMO.

I don't think it could hurt. I've seen some other folks do that as well. Really your strong hand should be gripping the frame slightly less hard than your support hand to help reduce steering the muzzle with your trigger press.

A lot of "gamers" shoot with their support wrist canted forward drastically like that. I'm not using that term disparagingly either; they shoot really really good and faster than I do. My experience is that this stance requires the arms be almost completely straight and locked at the elbow. For a while there I flirted with shooting like that when I was hot for USPSA matches. But as I moved away from that and started thinking about practical shooting and human biomechanics, my grip has evolved so that my elbows stay somewhat bent, my head isn't so low into the sight picture but rather the gun further up to my eye-level, and my hands almost in a pugilistic configuration wrapped around the gun. It's still a thumbs forward style, but my wrist isn't cammed forward as far as yours is and I find that it gives me more maneuverability and stability for shooting on the move.

Ok, you cant your support hand forward a lot more than I do I guess. If I cam my wrist like that, the tip of my thumb is even with the leading edge of the trigger guard on my P2000. Not so much with the HK45... the trigger guard on it is much larger than that of the P2000 so my thumb doesn't even clear it. That's why I was having a hard time visualizing you having your thumb on the accessory rail of a P30, which is almost as long as the HK45.

No problem.

You end up with your thumbs on the accessory rail... seriously??? Either you have orangutan hands or you're doing it wrong. Please post a picture of what you consider to be the modern-style thumbs forward grip.

Love it.

*sigh*

Disregard my previous statement then. Check and make sure you don't have some bogus plugins installed in Firefox.

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Dude, you're not getting it. If you want to support TGO, fine. If you don't, fine. If it's because I didn't pet your fur in the right direction... fine. I stopped trying to please everyone all the time a long time ago. TGO isn't about me, it's bigger than that. So if I'm the reason why you decide whatever you decide... whatever. I hope you get your computer problems figured out.

Spyware on your computer.

Do whatever you feel lead to do. If my refusal to support your home computer factors into that decision, I will gladly forfeit the $35 and consider myself ahead in the game. PS: Batman's answer was just quoting what I had said. So you're welcome.

PS: It's interesting what comes up when you Google the guy's name. I found this particular item to be rather disturbing... Employee resigns after stealing $4000 from Scott County Circuit... - Topix

And his cheap insurance.

Ink doesn't work that way, n00b. It's metric.

I made it a point to buy a lot of my favorites on DVD last year. I've got all of the perennial stop-motion favorites like Rudolph Saves Christmas, Frosty the Snowman, etc. but we also picked up the original The Grinch as well as the Jim Carey Grinch and a few of the others already mentioned here. This year I need to pick up a copy of Scrooged. Possibly one of the best yet most underrated of the holiday films.

I'm downloading ink to your printer... now.

You're hired.

Hollywood bullets.

Polly took it right in the chest, too.

Ok, I can add that.

I forget when this season started... month, I mean. How long do we have to wait? At least the new season of 24 starts in January.

One last thought from me on this subject before I have to get to work... Tennessee Gun Owners - FAQ

Are you talking about the Reviews feature?