The Rabbi

Yeah. And your Beretta is gone too.

Of all the shops in the area GC seems to have the worst reputation for customer service. My own experiences mirror that.

I'll trade a CZ 97 for an M1 Carbine any day of the week....

Gosh. Making assumptions about someone because he has a particular name, thereby imputing certain ethnic characteristics. And that's called? Anyone?

Brilliant! And that will cost how much? And how long until they make their way back here? News story not too long ago about a group if illegals being deported for the third time. To Nigeria. Add to that the fact that no one has ever rounded up and deported that many people over such a wide area and you have a plan that is totally unworkable.

And if any of those links were actually responsive to the issue they would be really valuable. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/0410immigpay10.html

I was relatively sure that was not the case, that TN had an exclusion if someone was shot while attempting to commit a crime. Third parties of course are another matter.

Great idea. Round them up and....?

I would say that's what you get for going to a big box retail store which hires the lowest-paid help they can get. But that would be self-serving. And some of the independents arent much better. A customer of mine told me how he went into one of the largest shops in town to buy a Taurus .44 and the clerk told him flat out if he wanted that gun then he was an idiot. He walked out.

While true, it is a cop-out when proposing a public policy. If you said it in the first post I probably agreed then too.

As I wrote above, police and prosecutors here have the right attitude overall and know an honest citizen from a criminal. They just will not charge someone involved in a good shoot on a technical violation. It would get laughed out of court, no jury is going to convict in this state. In MA, CA, IL, NY etc, all of that is out the window. Prosecutors will nail honest citizens for any reason at all because in those locales only police and criminals have/need guns so if you're not one you must be the other. Thats the thinking anyway.

Since you admit (correctly) that the borders cannot be secured, how do you guarantee that the people you deport will not sneak over again? It is a conundrum. If you make immigration too difficult then people will do it illegally. If you make it too easy then you have the same problem we have now. Thus I propose that it be very easy to get here and work but very difficult to get government benefits. If the jobs arent here then there is no incentive to stay and no penalty for going back home.

Remington and I think Winchester also make the 158gr LHP. I have shot the Buffalo Bore stuff and it is much hotter than the others. I am not convinced that is a good thing.

Prices at the wholesale level went up last January 1 so the price you quoted is a fair one.

I am not arguing that it is training, in the sense commonly used. Thus my point that people who criticize it for not being training are off base. It isnt meant to be training in that sense. So criticizing it for something it isnt is absurd. But, as I've said ad nauseam, it does give practice in very valuable skills.

When there is a direct and immediate threat to my life where complying would put my life and/or safety immediately in danger. Other than that I cannot think of any course of action better than what Saintsfanbrian has proposed.

I dont understand the issue. If you are carrying openly and an officer demands to see your permit, you are required to show it. TN Code 39-17-1351: But if you are just walking on the street the police have no right to stop and ask for ID. There was a very good video on the Web put out by the ACLU (of all people) that talks about this kind of issue.

Your argumentation skills are poor. You argue that illegals are driving up costs for everyone. I challenged that assertion and you cite some article that focuses on some very individual cases and gives anecdotal evidence. You have failed to prove your point. If your point were valid you would be able to point to a study and say "health care premiums rose x amount due directly to increased costs imposed by illegals." But there is no such study I have seen. The health care market is enormous and even heavy use by at most 10 million people will not have a statistically meaningful effect. Similarly people arguing that we will be swamped with illegals dont have a clue. There are estimated 10-15 million illegals in a country of 380 million people. Incidentally not all of them are Hispanics. As a percentage that is way lower than peak years of immigration in this country. But your solution is to turn employers and landlords and who knows what else into enforcement arms of the government. As a landlord it is really not my job to verify someone's legal status. My job is to rent housing to people. If the gov't makes it otiose to rent houses I will get out of that business. If the gov't makes it burdensome to hire people then they will stop hiring them, legal or not.

I told you, I'm an undocumented Ecuadorian working kitchen jobs when I am not slurping up free government programs meant for hardworking Americans like you, gringo. Nice article. I'd suggest reading it because it doesnt provide any proof of the impact of illegals on overall health care costs. Actually doesnt address the issue at all. But even if there were found to be some causal link, the solutions proposed, yet again, will not work.

Ah, you guessed it. I'm actually an illegal Ecuadorian kitchen worker. Darn, I thought this would work, cabrone. I am not "pro illegal immigration." I am for an immigration policy that meshes with reality. And the reality is that millions of people are coming here to find jobs. And there are employers here who need that kind of unskilled work done. So there is an economic reality behind this so-called problem. The solutions offered are generally worse than the problem as they all involve more government spending and more intrusion into privacy. That in addition to the fact that they won't work. As for trashy looking houses, you've described not a few of the redneck neighborhoods I've been through. And I would bet lower class whites have killed more people drunk driving than Mexicans have. Can you document any increased insurance costs associated with illegal immigration? No, probably not. A lot of the problem (and it has multiple causes) comes from welfare class types using expensive emergency room services for primary care. And those are born n bred Americans doing that.

As I've pointed out, even illegals pay plenty in taxes. But if the gov't hasnt enforced the laws already on the books (and which include virtually everything you've mentioned) then why would they start now? As for deporting people, why won't they just sneak back in (which in fact they do anyway)?

It was clear to me that the unlawful language was meant to apply to, e.g. breaking into someone's house where the crook could not claim self defense if he shot the homeowner when the HO threatened him. And in this state I cannot imagine a prosecutor bringing charges or a grand jury indicting or a petty jury convicting anyone under the circumstances outlined where a permit holder used his gun where he shouldnt have had one. Thank Gd, this isn't Massachusetts or something.

I dont understand the law or the need for it. It was already law here that there was no duty to retreat. It was already law that you could not be sued civilly for using force against a BG. I dont see a difference. If the legislature and NRA wanted to do something good, they could remove every prohibited place to permit holders and stop requiring those silly fingerprint cards at gun sales.

Gee, did it ever occur to you that there are many, millions, of legal Spanish-speaking immigrants here? Or do you think every Hispanic you see is a wetback? No, you do not have any idea what you are talking about. Your arguments boil down to "let's shoot them all." That is not acceptable nor feasible. And if INS has ceased enforcing the law, despite massive increases in their budget as I showed, what makes you think spending any more will get them to enforce it? What makes you think anything done will get them to enforce? If Shelby County is paying for non-emergency care for illegals then someone needs to ask those in charge in Shelby Co why that is. Demand accountibility.

If we have stopped enforcement then why has the budget for INS increased 5-fold? As to illegals, they are ineligible for all the programs you mention, except emergency health service. And since most illegals coming here are 20-40 they are the group least likely to need medical care.