Cruel Hand Luke

I've always had good luck with Atlanta Airsoft.....you might take a look at this.....it might interest you....http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/KWA-Airsoft-KZ75-Gas-Pistol-p/00526.htm

We will most likely run it again in the fall.

ADVANCED GUNFIGHTING AUGUST 13-14, 2016 DAYTON, TENNESSEE Price : $350 INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRIS This course is pure shooting at all ranges. We will spend the morning of the first day polishing up our pistol shooting fundamentals and then spend the remainder of the weekend taking our skills to higher levels. This is a physically demanding course that builds upon what you have already trained in other pistol classes. Course material includes methods for increasing speed and accuracy. In this class, we will do some long range shooting . . . like 75 yards and 100 yards! We will teach you to hit at all possible distances. We will also point shoot from belly to belly distance, while ignoring the use of sights both station stationary, on the move and on the run. We will study the various Threat-Focused Point Shooting systems (Point Shooting) as well as Sight-Focused Shooting Systems and their seamless integration and applications in a total Close Range Gunfighting program. We will shoot from field expedient positions (including one handed, behind cover, etc.). We'll examine special problems such as confined area shooting, shooting in crowded environments and other difficult problems. All attendees should have a high level of skill and a reflexive understanding of safety measures. There is little or no lecturing and the majority of the time is trigger time. Come join us in this exciting and cutting edge training event!   CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS   DURATION: 2 days   TIME: 8:30AM to 4:30PM   AMMUNITION: Approximately 500 rounds (Minimum)   RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Modern defensive pistol and a holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt. Three (3) magazines and magazine pouch, a belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, and range safety gear (eye protection, and ear protection). Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that.   For more info and to register......http://www.suarezinternationalstore....x#.VxZJ5vkrKow

Thanks for the reviews guys!

Yes, that class definitely focuses on the "Fight" part of the FBI "Run , Hide, Fight" triad. Thanks for the review ! 

This is still a little ways off, but we are half full already....there are 6 spots still available. (I am adjusting the # in the original post as I get deposits in)

Don't expect "Hollywood" reactions to being shot with a pistol...ANY pistol . If you shoot someone you may well have to shoot them several times with a handgun to change their channel. Some people are just tough SOBs and will not stop fighting until they are dead. Plan accordingly.

ONE WEEK TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  And yet this tragedy still happened.....

So.....studying THIS event is not of any merit?...but studying fights pre 1900 is where it is at? Your post is somewhat confusing.....while I too find studying ALL gunfights I can get reliable info on no matter what the era useful,  there is not any more value to studying something pre 1900 than something that happened in 1986. So I'm not sure exactly the point you are trying to make.   For that matter a horse probably will get you where you want to go...but  an automobile is far more efficient. And prior to 1940 there was no more reliable method of testing for diabetes than tasting the patient's urine....but no sane doctor is still gargling piss in 2016.    But maybe you're right...maybe we should dismiss those folks who have spent a majority of their life actually educating themselves in all manner of armed and unarmed conflict, scientific method research, modern understanding of anatomy with regards to terminal ballistics, and running the gun at the ragged edge of human ability.... and instead simply read a book about the old west.........

Reminder............ this one is coming up in a month !  If you plan to use a shotgun for home or business defense then this class will teach you the skills you need to prevail. 

That can be a thread all to itself......CULTURE makes a difference.   We see that in the FBI report of offenders who kill cops. The offender has grown up in a constant state of struggle and is often in a state of combat with victims and other predators. He has been arrested by the time he is 12 and carried a weapon since he was 14 . On the other hand the officers that many departments want to hire may have never even been in a fist fight because that would have gotten them in trouble in school. When those two cultures clash guess who has the advantage....    Also a quick anecdotal culture story.....at NTI (National Tactical Invitional) in 2007 I was talking to one of the judges as we waited for the next FOF venue to be ready.....he told me he has been a participant and or judge at all 17 NTI events and he could normally tell where someone was from by how they reacted in the scenarios. He said that people from the Northeast were VERY hesitant to pull a gun . He would just about have to zap 'em with a cattle prod to get them to shoot someone. People from the Southwest would normally give you 1 warning and then shoot. People from the South...they'd shoot you without even talking to you.  I told him that was largely cultural. Many in the South are of Scots-Irish descent and back when their ancestors came over they moved inland to the Appalachians and if someone stole their cattle they wouldn't travel back to the magistrate and wait for them to do something, they'd gather their brothers and cousins and go get their cattle back......whereas the northeast was largely inhabited by folks who were more in line with "following rules" and lived in more urban areas or areas that the "crown" could easier control as opposed to the southern frontier. Many of us are also descended from folks who chose to fight for the Confederacy against what they saw as an invading army in the 1860s and the blood of those people still flows in our veins. When it is time to talk it is time to talk... but when it is time to fight...it is not time to talk. There is time to talk and time to fight but there is not a whole lot of overlap between the two.  He said he'd never really thought of it that way but it made sense.....

Gordon Kahl and Posse Comitatus are names you don't hear much anymore.... for those wondering "who?".....   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Kahl

 Not in this one. I think you might be thinking about the North Hollywood bank robbery. 

Be careful about hunting things (or people) you don't really expect to find and not being truly prepared to find if you do find them..........   Some people are just tough hard to kill dudes and you may have to internally disassemble them to convince them to stop fighting.....Platte was shot 12 times.  FBI Agent Mireles nearly had his arm severed by a .223 round but continued to fight.    Not all former Rangers (Platt)  or Marines (Matix) are necessarily law abiding citizens....there are some well trained bad guys out there.....   Pistols suck at stopping people.   Pistols REALLY suck in a rifle fight.    The gun in your holster is more secure than under your leg if you end up in a car crash.....   If you are injured KEEP FIGHTING you may still win....(Mireles ended the fight after having his arm all but destroyed with a .223 round.)   Ambidexterity and/or 1 handed skill comes in handy sometimes....in this fight McNeill, Hanlon, Platt, Matix , and Mireles were all hit in the arm or hand.    Tactics and aggression make a difference. Platt's use of "Fire and maneuver" flipped the battlefield and came close to getting him and Matix out of there..........if it hadn't been for Mireles.    People that get shot in the face tend to be less combat effective than they were before they got shot in the face. McNeill shot Matix in the face early on and Matix was unable to return fire after that.        What are some things we got directly from this incident?    The government spent A LOT of money on ballistics research. All the ammo designs that we have today that expand AND still penetrate deep enough to hit vital organs from less than ideal angles are a result of the Ballistic Workshops in 87 and in the 90s.   The 40SW cartridge . Love it or hate it, the .40 is a direct result of the FBI blaming the bullet instead of the training/ tactics.    Patrol carbines beginning to be pondered and discussed by forward thinking trainers. The North Hollywood Bank Robbery in Feb 97 pretty much sealed the deal on this.   The push away from revolvers and toward everyone carrying  semi auto pistols in the FBI and the trickle down effect to agencies nationwide. 

So for those of us who study this type thing what do we/have we learned from this in the last 30 years?

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/04/11/fbi-marks-30th-anniversary-bloody-miami-shootout/   MIRAMAR (CBSMiami/AP) – Thirty years ago, FBI agents Ben Grogan and Jerry Dove died in a vicious gun battle with two heavily armed suspected bank robbers in Miami-Dade’s Suniland area, which is now part of Pinecrest. It’s described as the bloodiest shootout in FBI history. On a street corner in Pinecrest Monday , a wreath was laid to remember the heroes of the FBI who died in the Miami Shootout on April 11, 1986. Five agents were also wounded during the gun battle. “Ben Grogan and Jerry Dove sacrificed their lives to save mine,” said retired agents Edmundo Mireles. “It’s a wonderful gift getting an entire 30 years of life.” Mireles was seriously injured during the shootout, as was fellow agent John Hanlon. Grogan was 53 when he died. He was a two-decade veteran nicknamed ‘The Doctor’ and was one year shy of retirement. Dove was 30 and had joined the agency four years earlier. The so-called “Miami Shootout” involved two serial bank robbers at SW 82nd Avenue and 122nd Street. The suspects, William Matix and Michael Platt were also killed by one of the wounded FBI agents. More than 140 shots were fired. It all started when agents Dove and Grogan spotted the suspects’ vehicle. A high speed chase ensued when the agents tried to stop the vehicle. When agents in three FBI vehicles finally managed to stop the suspects’ car, Matix and Platt came out firing. The incident is infamous in FBI history and is well-studied in law enforcement circles. Despite outnumbering the suspects 4 to 1, the agents found themselves pinned down by heavy rifle fire and unable to respond effectively due to their much smaller service handguns. The suspects had a Ruger assault rifle, a shotgun and .357 caliber handguns. Although both Matix and Platt were hit multiple times during the firefight, Platt fought on and continued to injure and kill agents. This incident led to the introduction of more powerful handguns in many police departments around the country including more powerful semiautomatic weapons for all FBI agents. “Although it was 30 years ago, it is something that will remain for us because it changed us,” said FBI Director James Comey. “It changed our equipment. It changed our training. It changed how we do our work.” The 1988 movie “In the Line of Duty” re-created the blizzard of bullets in the “Miami Shootout.” Some of the weapons used in the shootout are now on display at the FBI building in Miramar as part of a memorial that brought the FBI’s top man from Washington. In 2001, the Village of Pinecrest honored the two agents by co-designating a portion of Southwest 82nd Avenue as Agent Benjamin Grogan Avenue and Agent Jerry Dove Avenue. Street signs and a historical marker commemorate the naming of the roadway in honor of the two agents. (TM and © Copyright 2016 CBS Radio Inc. and its relevant subsidiaries. CBS RADIO and EYE Logo TM and Copyright 2016 CBS Broadcasting Inc. Used under license. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.)

For those looking for a great place to learn the fundamental skills of defending yourself with a pistol this is for you. We cover everything from mindset and awareness and dealing with unknown contacts to disrupting your adversary's OODA loop, accessing your pistol and getting fight stopping hits, after action assessments, malfunction clearance, reloading both proactively and reactively, and many more topics.   A few reviews of this class....   http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?68549-DPS-with-Randy-Harris&highlight=   http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?94986-Defensive-Pistol-Skills-Jacksonville-Florida-Jan-14-15&highlight=jacksonville   http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?102162-AAR-DPS-with-Randy-Harris 

DATE ON THIS CLASS HAS BEEN CHANGED TO JULY 30-31       RGF-2: RIFLE GUNFIGHTING II JULY 30-31, 2016 CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE Price: $350 INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRIS Rifle confrontations worldwide rarely exceed 25 yards. Rather than a long range marksman's weapon, our research shows the rifle will most likely be used just outside the reach of more conventional weapons, as well as within these closer intervals of confrontation. This course will take the student quickly through the basics and impart the techniques necessary to deploy the Tactical Rifle, Civilian Carbine, or Submachine gun in a close interval emergency.This course is highly recommended for civilian defenders, military personnel, or police operators (we make no distinction in the material presented). CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 2 days   TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM (Central time)   AMMUNITION: Approximately 500 rounds (Minimum) and 50 rounds of pistol ammunition.   RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Rifle (any action or caliber suitable for use within 50 yards), all weapons must be equipped with a sling, also bring a pistol with at least (2) magazines, a belt, holster, magazine pouches, rifle ammo pouches, and ear & eye protection (knee and elbow pads are strongly suggested). Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. For more info and to register for this class..........http://www.suarezinternationalstore....x#.Vwk6wfkrKow

 THE DATE ON THIS HAS BEEN CHANGED TO JUNE 25-26 !!!!     CRG-1: PISTOL GUNFIGHTING JUNE 25-26, 2016 CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE Price: $350 INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRIS All training must begin with fundamentals. This comprehensive fundamentals class is designed to prep you for the more advanced courses such as Close Range Gunfighting. Through a carefully designed and detailed curriculum we are able to bring you up to a level of skill in a short two day class that previously would take over 4 or 5 days to achieve at other schools. You will learn a complete presentation of the modern combative technique of the pistol which will put you in good standing for any defensive situations you may encounter in the real world. We will also be incorporating fundamental Point Shooting techniques which will prep you for the more advanced courses such as Close Range Gunfighting. You will learn the components of various point shooting methods and integrate them into your existing skill sets. This knowledge will put you in good standing for any defensive situations you may encounter in the real world. No experience or prior training is needed to attend this class and it is specially suitable for beginners, or as a tune-up for accomplished shooters. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 2 days   TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM (Central Time)   AMMUNITION: Approximately 350 rounds (Minimum)   RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Modern defensive pistol and a holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt. Three (3) magazines and magazine pouch, a belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, and range safety gear (eye protection, and ear protection). Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. For more info and to register for this class......http://www.suarezinternationalstore....x#.Vwk5tfkrKow

TWO DAYS TO GO!!!! 

Welcome aboard from Ooltewah.

PM returned.

REMINDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   THIS ONE IS COMING UP THIS WEEKEND! 

Sunday June 5 in Knoxville I will be offering a 1 day class .    Dealing With Pests-Civilian Use of Force Continuum and Solutions. Date: Sunday June 5  Time : 9AM to 3PM Instructor: Randy Harris (http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/instructor-randy-harris.aspx) Price : $150  ($50 Deposit required to hold spot in class balance due at class)  Location: 1818 Tarklin Valley Rd Knoxville Tn 37920   This class is a one day presentation of the civilian use of force continuum. It will focus on dealing with unknown contacts with voice and body language then transitioning  to preemptive empty hand skills along with reactive empty hand skills used to defend against both empty hand attacks and against contact weapons, and finally transitioning to and accessing your pistol while under attack and using it effectively in close quarters.    This is the class your CCW class SHOULD have been. This is not an "NRA safety class". This is not a "stand still and shoot little groups" marksmanship kind of class.  It is an interactive study in up close street violence and gives you tools to deal with the most likely types of attacks. I'll be offering this at a one time discounted rate at $150.  There will be a strict 12 person limit so as to keep the class small enough so that everyone gets plenty of reps and plenty of attention. It will be both interactive and live fire.    You will need.... Your carry pistol and at least 1 spare mag (or speed loader for revolver if you like to party like it is 1899) holster for pistol 100 rds of pistol ammo  Blue gun replica or airsoft gun replica of your carry gun if you have one.     List of things that never hurt to bring if you have them (but don't feel you need to buy them just for class)....... Airsoft mask training knife copy of your folding knife if you regularly carry a folding knife and ever plan to access it as a defensive weapon. We will have some available but not sure how many we will have.  mouthpiece (just in case of incidental contact) not at all mandatory but can be useful cup (just in case of incidental contact) not at all mandatory but can be useful      As of right now we have 6 spots still available......       PM me here for address to send the deposit.