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  1. Explain please, which law are you referencing, and what was the wording of the law in1796 when we were made a state?
  2. The Senator that took the criminal Brian Kelsey's place amended 1503 in such a manner that it not only took out every good thing in the bill, it added more restrictions. The Republican Supermajority in the Senate Judiciary showed its true colors, refusing to allow long guns as 42 other states do with no permitand 4 more do with a permit. With friends like this...
  3. For those of you in Memphis and the area, Paul Rose is the key bill killer, supposedly from a rural area, his comment to me was "The little Old Ladies in my church do not want to see AR 15s in the Wal Mart". He knows that any store could put signage up saying not long arms allowed just like they can now with handguns. He knows that AR 15 pistols are legal and easier to conceal, he just does not care. If anyone has any stroke with him, he is a key vote, if he were to flip to our side then the new guy from Memphis Brent Taylor would most likely follow. As it sits today this bill will fail if it ever actually gets considered in the Senate. Every Senator that votes against this should be ousted for Official Oppression.
  4. Rep. Todd Warner is dog poop as fare as the other House members are concerned...his relationship with the former Chief of Staff for ousted Speaker Casada puts him in a hole, so nobody else is going to glom on to that letter. However, I think the present Lt. Gov.'s days are numbered from the scuttlebutt I am hearing. Why Sexton is going on the radio to support him at this point is beyond me, except a friend standing up for a past relationship...
  5. Bill passed out of Civil Justice, now to Finance it makes the State money but will have to be considered as it involves money. Next week in the Senate, that is the heavy lift.
  6. Should get voted on today, if those in charge of committees don't let the Administration and Moms Demand Action (funny how those two groups seem syncopated against your 2nd Amendment Rights) run the clock our jabbering lies and untruths. It is becoming clear to me the TBI, the Department of Safety, the Sheriffs Association and the Chiefs of Police along with the governor are attempting to create a 4th Branch of government...They are falling right in line with Bloomberg! I am loading up and headed back, today is important.
  7. I don't think the Director has read the case... “[The purpose of the Second Amendment is] to secure a well-armed militia .... But a militia would be useless unless the citizens were enabled to exercise themselves in the use of warlike weapons. To preserve this privilege, and to secure to the people the ability to oppose themselves in military force against the usurpations of government, as well as against enemies from without, that government is forbidden by any law or proceeding to invade or destroy the right to keep and bear arms .... The clause is analogous to the one securing the freedom of speech and of the press. Freedom, not license, is secured; the fair use, not the libellous abuse, is protected.” J. Pomeroy, An Introduction to the Constitutional Law of the United States 152–153 (1868) District of Columbia et al. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 618 (2008) Before addressing the verbs “keep” and “bear,” we interpret their object: “Arms.” The 18th-century meaning is no different from the meaning today. The 1773 edition of Samuel Johnson's dictionary defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.” 1 Dictionary of the English Language 106 (4th ed.) (reprinted 1978) (hereinafter Johnson). Timothy Cunningham's important 1771 legal dictionary defined “arms” as “any thing that a man wears for his defence, or takes into his hands, or useth in wrath to cast at or strike another.” 1 A New and Complete Law Dictionary; see also N. Webster, American Dictionary of the English Language (1828) (reprinted 1989) (hereinafter Webster) (similar). The term was applied, then as now, to weapons that were not specifically designed for military use and were not employed in a military capacity. For instance, Cunningham's legal dictionary gave as an example of usage: “Servants and labourers shall use bows and arrows on Sundays, & c. and not bear other arms.” See also, e.g., An Act for the trial of Negroes, 1797 Del. Laws ch. XLIII, § 6, in 1 First Laws of the State of Delaware 102, 104 (J. Cushing ed.1981 (pt. 1)); see generally State v. Duke, 42 Tex. 455, 458 (1874) (citing decisions of state courts construing “arms”). Although one founding-era thesaurus limited “arms” (as opposed to “weapons”) to “instruments of offence generally made use of in war,” even that source stated that all firearms constituted “arms.” 1 J. Trusler, The Distinction Between Words Esteemed Synonymous in the English Language 37 (3d ed. 1794) (emphasis added). Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U.S. 844, 849, 117 S.Ct. 2329, 138 L.Ed.2d 874 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U.S. 27, 35–36, 121 S.Ct. 2038, 150 L.Ed.2d 94 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding. District of Columbia et al. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 581-82 (2008) ““[O]rdinarily when called for [militia] service [able-bodied] men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.” ” District of Columbia et al. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 624 (2008) “In the colonial and revolutionary war era, [small-arms] weapons used by militiamen and weapons used in defense of person and home were one and the same.” State v. Kessler,289 Ore. 359, 368, 614 P.2d 94, 98 (1980) (citing G. Neumann, Swords and Blades of the American Revolution 6–15, 252–254 (1973)) District of Columbia et al. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 624-25 (2008) It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service—M–16 rifles and the like—may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment's ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large. District of Columbia et al. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 627 (2008)
  8. This is part of the testimony by the ex Chief of Police David B. Rausch from Knoxville, now Director of the TBI. I have further testimony and it is every bit as bad and denotes the Admiration's desire to rule rather than serve.
  9. I sat in Senate Judiciary Committee Meeting yesterday and watched every substantive gun bill get strangled to death by the gun hating picksby McNally on that committee. As usual, Sen.s Kerry Roberts and Dawn White voted in favor of less regulation but they are too few and that is by design. At least the new NRA Lobbyist was able to witness the terrible performance, and he seems to be a straight shooter (no pun intended) but what the bosses in Washington will back him on remains to be seen, but so far he s sending out alerts and is supportive of our efforts. Which leads me to the final chance for positive movement for the year, HB 1005/SB 1503. TI is the last one standing and will be in Civil Justice full today and next Tuesday in the Senate Judiciary. It has been amended to take out the loss of Civil Immunity for places that post against lawful carry, (McNally and Chamber of Commerce insistence) but it still removes 1307 (a) and changes to 18 for carry and permits and adds long guns into the permissible weapons list. Stevens has it in the Senate and he asked to roll it to see if it comes out of the House intact, and even mothed some platitudes I sent him from the Bruen case to appear supportive of his own bill... Down to the wire today and next week for anything to get accomplished.
  10. Has passed full Civil Justice and will be on the floor Tuesday night. It has to be read twice in floor sessions by the clerk, then Jay can describe it the third time and there will be a vote. If it passes full house it will be taken up by the Senate next year and passage by both houses for two years running, it will go on the ballot in 2026.
  11. McNally has said he was upset with the new AG deciding to agree with the plaintiffs in the Beeler case. He wants to take that power away from the office and suck it into the Legislators. That would be for sure putting the fox in charge of the hen house. He is ticked about the 18 year old thing, but does not want to take their ability to vote away or get married, sign contracts... He hates his status as king to be challenged.
  12. I have to keep calling my Attorney buds, they have software that can get the updates, it is still about 18 days out I think.
  13. Department of Safety and TBI got cold feet, and did not want to remove the "Intent to go armed" following talks with their masters, so they pulled support to strike the clause, Chairman Ragan will run his original bill to define the term. I smell another law suit coming.
  14. Latest Amendment to HB 1005 Amendment No. Signature of Sponsor AMEND Senate Bill No. 1503 House Bill No. 1005* by deleting all language after the enacting clause and substituting: SECTION 1. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307, is amended by deleting subsection (a). SECTION 2. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307(b)(1), is amended by deleting "unlawfully". SECTION 3. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307, is amended by deleting subsection (e). SECTION 4. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307, is amended by deleting subsection (g). SECTION 5. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1313(a), is amended by deleting "lawfully carries a handgun pursuant to § 39-17-1307(g)" and substituting "is not prohibited from possessing or carrying a firearm". SECTION 6. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1364, is amended by deleting "§ 39-17-1307, or". SECTION 7. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1351, is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm" and by deleting the language "handguns" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearms". SECTION 8. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1351(r)(1), is amended by deleting the subdivision and substituting instead: (1) A facially valid handgun permit, firearms permit, weapons permit, or license issued by another state shall be valid in this state according to its terms and shall be treated as if it is a firearm carry permit issued by this state. SECTION 9. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1365, is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 10. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1366, is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm" and by deleting the language "handguns" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearms". SECTION 11. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 10-7-504(a)(2)(A), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit" and by deleting the language "handgun carry permits" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permits". SECTION 12. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 10-7-504(o), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit" and by deleting the language "handgun permit holder" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit holder". SECTION 13. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 33-6-413(b), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 14. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 36-3-626, is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm" and by deleting the language "as defined in § 39-17-1319" and substituting "as defined in § 39- 11-106". SECTION 15. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 38-3-122(c), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 16. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 38-6-105, is amended by deleting the language "handgun permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 17. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 38-8-116, is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 18. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-16-702(b), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 19. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1309(e)(8), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 20. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1309(e)(11), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 21. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1313(a), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 22. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1321(a), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" and substituting "firearm". SECTION 23. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1321(c)(2), is amended by deleting the language "handgun permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 24. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1350(g), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 25. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1352, is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 26. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1359(g)(1), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 27. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 40-32-101, is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 28. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 40-32-105(i)(5), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 29. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 49-6-816, is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 30. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 49-7-161(b)(2), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 31. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 49-50-803(b)(2), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 32. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 50-3-201(d), is amended by deleting the language "handgun permits to carry a handgun" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permits to carry a firearm". SECTION 33. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 50-1-312(a)(1), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 34. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 70-2-104(g)(3)(B), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 35. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 70-4-117(d), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 36. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 70-4-117(e), is amended by deleting the language "hand gun" and substituting "firearm". SECTION 37. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 70-5-101(c), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 38. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 70-5-101(d), is amended by deleting the language "hand gun" and substituting "firearm". SECTION 39. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 8-21-401(f)(1), is amended by deleting the language "handgun permits" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permits". SECTION 40. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1351(b), is amended by deleting the subsection and substituting instead: (b) Except as provided in subsection (r), a resident of Tennessee who is a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident, as defined by § 55-50-102, may apply to the department of safety for an enhanced firearm carry permit. If the applicant is at least eighteen (18) years of age and is not prohibited from possessing a firearm in this state pursuant to § 39-17-1307(b), 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), or any other state or federal law, and the applicant otherwise meets all of the requirements of this section, then the department shall issue a permit to the applicant. SECTION 41. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1351(x)(1), is amended by deleting the language "twenty-one (21) years of age" and substituting instead the language "eighteen (18) years of age". SECTION 42. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307, is amended by adding the following as a new subsection: ( ) (1) It is an offense for a minor to carry, with the intent to go armed, a firearm. (2) (A) A violation of subdivision ( )(1) is a delinquent act and, in addition to any other disposition authorized by law, the juvenile may be required to perform not more than one hundred (100) hours of community service work to be specified by the judge, and the juvenile's driving privileges shall be suspended for a period of one (1) year in accordance with the procedure set out in title 55, chapter 10, part 7. (B) A second or subsequent violation of subdivision ( )(1) is a delinquent act and, in addition to any other disposition authorized by law, the juvenile may be required to perform not less than one hundred (100) nor more than two hundred (200) hours of community service work to be specified by the judge, and the juvenile's driving privileges shall be suspended for a period of two (2) years in accordance with the procedure set out in title 55, chapter 10, part 7. (3) A firearm carried with the intent to go armed in violation of this subsection ( ) must be confiscated and disposed of in accordance with § 39-17- 1317. (4) It is an exception to the application of subdivision ( )(1) if the juvenile is: (A) In attendance at a hunter safety course or a firearm safety course; (B) Engaging in practice in the use of a firearm or target shooting at an established range or club authorized by the governing body of the jurisdiction in which the range or club is located or any other area where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited; (C) Engaging in an organized competition involving the use of a firearm, or participating in or practicing for a performance by an organized group which is exempt from federal income taxation under § 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (26 U.S.C. § 501(c)(3)), as amended, and which uses firearms as part of the performance; (D) Hunting or trapping pursuant to a valid license issued to the juvenile pursuant to title 70; (E) Engaging in the lawful protection of livestock from predatory animals; (F) Accompanied by the juvenile's parent or guardian and is being instructed by the adult or guardian in the use of the firearm carried by the juvenile; (G) On real property which is under the control of an adult and has the permission of that adult and the juvenile's parent or legal guardian to carry, with the intent to go armed, a firearm; (H) Traveling to or from an activity described in this subdivision () (4) with an unloaded firearm; (I) At the juvenile's residence and, with permission of the juvenile's parent or legal guardian, is justified in using physical force or deadly force; or (J) Transporting or storing an unloaded firearm in a motor vehicle while on or utilizing a public or private parking area if: (i) The juvenile is licensed to drive a motor vehicle pursuant to title 55, chapter 50, part 3; (ii) The juvenile's motor vehicle is parked in a location where the motor vehicle is permitted to be; and (iii) The firearm being transported or stored in the motor vehicle: (a) Is kept from ordinary observation if the juvenile is in the motor vehicle; or (b) Is kept from ordinary observation and locked within the trunk, glove box, or interior of the juvenile's motor vehicle or a container securely affixed to the motor vehicle if the juvenile is not in the motor vehicle. (5) As used in this subsection ( (A) "Juvenile" means a person less than eighteen (18) years of age; and (B) "Unloaded" means: (i) The firearm does not have ammunition in the chamber, cylinder, clip, or magazine; and (ii) The firearm, and the ammunition for the firearm, are not carried on the person of a juvenile or are not in such close proximity to the juvenile that the juvenile could readily gain access to the firearm and the ammunition and load the firearm. SECTION 43. If any provision of this act or its application to any person or circumstance is held invalid, then the invalidity does not affect other provisions or applications of the act that can be given effect without the invalid provision or application, and to that end, the provisions of this act are severable. SECTION 44. This act takes effect July 1, 2023, the public welfare requiring it.

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