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She did ask this question, as if is the responsibility of the investigators to answer that. She should be asking the parents what they were doing out in the middle of the night, wearing masks; Why they "confronted" the other family. Maybe they real question is why they were not in bed, getting a good night's sleep for school that morning. Maybe she should be asking if they have been doing this kind of thing before, and not getting caught, or possibly killed someone doing just that in the past.

Seems the "good guy with a gun" ideology is working. It defies logic when you hear the family try and defend the criminals and say that they did not have to be killed, specially when they were shooting first themselves. What did they expect to happen, that the victims just take it? https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article235158072.html Gunfire that left three masked teenagers dead in Conyers, Georgia, is being investigated as a possible “stand your ground” case, according to local authorities. Rockdale County deputies responded to reports of shots fired at a home in the Atlanta suburb shortly after 4 a.m. Monday, according to the Rockdale County Sheriff’s Office. When deputies arrived, they discovered “three males with gunshot wounds and began administering first aid,” the Sheriff’s Office said. Two were hospitalized and died, while the third was pronounced dead at the scene of the shooting. Those killed were a pair of brothers, 15 and 16, and another 15-year-old, WSB-TV reported. “At this time, it is known that all three males that were shot do not live at the residence and arrived at the residence with their faces covered,” deputies said. Deputies said that “the investigation is still in the preliminary stages and the homeowner is currently being questioned as to the details of the shooting.” Investigators said “it could possibly be a stand your ground type of case,” according to WSB-TV. https://www.11alive.com/article/news/local/conyers/conyers-attempted-robbery/85-d344d527-7110-4d98-b06e-d655c76c7ab0 CONYERS, Ga. — Family members identified two of the three teens killed after authorities claim the teens were involved in an attempted armed robbery in Rockdale County early Monday morning. The Rockdale County Sheriff's Office said the teens, two 16-year-old boys and a 15-year-old, were killed during an exchange of gunfire. A Sheriff's spokesman said late Monday afternoon that the teens were attempting to rob three people in the front yard of a home, and one of the teens opened fire on the alleged robbery victims. The incident happened just after 4 a.m. off Flat Shoals Road on White Oak Court in Conyers. Family members identified two of the teens killed as 16-year-old Isaiah Reid and his 15-year-old sibling Jaime Hernandez. “They was loving, they was brothers," said LaShawn Thornton, their aunt, Monday evening, speaking of how close they were to each other. Rockdale County Sheriff Eric Levett told 11Alive News earlier Monday that the three teens had come to rob the homeowner and his family in the middle of the night. “When deputies arrived, they did find masks on the [faces of the deceased] young men," Sheriff Levett said. The Sheriff's spokesman said late Monday afternoon that investigators had concluded that "the three now deceased individuals had their faces covered as they approached the residence and attempted to rob three individuals in the front yard. One of the attempted robbery suspects brandished a handgun and fired shots at the residents before one of the intended robbery victims returned fire. The victims of the attempted robbery were all uninjured, but the three attempted robbery suspects were all shot during the exchange of gunfire and succumbed to their injuries, one on scene and two at a local hospital after being transported." The brothers' aunt, Thornton, said the family is aching for answers, wondering why the teens went out in the middle of the night wearing masks, wondering why they would have confronted the other family, wondering if the teens had been shot in the back as they were running away, wondering why the three members of the other family--the homeowner, his mother and one other person--were outside in their front yard at 4:00 a.m., wondering why the teens would have walked all the way down that street to the last house in the cul-de-sac, wondering what ballistics tests will show, anxious to get answers about everything. "I hope that someone can come forward and let us know what’s going on. Because this is, like, devastating to my family. There are three teens that are dead, now," she said. “And we all loved them.” The homeowner, getting word to 11Alive through a neighbor, said he is not ready to comment. The sheriff said his office is still investigating, to decide whether the homeowner will face any charges or if this will turn out to be a case of self-defense. 11Alive Legal Analyst Latonia Hines explained how the "stand your ground law" works. "Basically what stand your ground allows for is that you can defend your habitation, property and others with possibly using deadly force," she said. "It's going to require a lot of investigation here," she added. " You've got to look at the facts you've got to look at they're talking to the individual who did the shooting, you're also looking at the shell casings to figure out if this really matches what the witness statements are."

So here is something I didn't mention; about a week before my VA teleretinal exam, and two before my full exam...more on that later, I was doing some chores outside, I thought a bug was buzzing me now and then from the top right. I'd swat at it and carry on, persistent little thing I thought. Then, I started seeing flashes of light, in an arc from the same direction, no, didn't think it was a firefly. I stopped what I was doing and went inside. I noticed when I closed my eyes and rolled them, the light flashes would increase. Went to google and discovered that it was a Weiss ring, well at least I hoped so, as it could have been retinal tear. I had a week to go so figured the VA exam would verify it. So, on the exams; I had thought that the VA exam was a full exam, but apparently it is a way for the VA to avoid hiring an ophthalmologist, as a nurse does the exam and sends the results in. Anyway, my next appointment, full exam, confirmed my Google fu was strong, and stupid. Seems that a retinal tear can lead to blindness if not treated immediately, and the teleretinal exam may not find it. I guess as we age, the gel in your eye shrinks, and creates pressure, a separation from the back, the Weiss ring, is preferred to relieve the pressure. So long story short, see your eye doc immediately if you notice something abnormal.

I wear contacts, doc gave me a pair of multifocal lenses that help my far and near sightedness. Seems they are like a bullseye, with the center for close-up and the subsequent rings for further away. Before I had to choose one or the other, I chose far and got some cheap glasses, 1.0s, for reading. Then I decided to try one far (dominant left) and one close (right), that worked good for a couple years. Now that I got these new ones, I notice the depth perception issue, slight, but there, with the mixed ones. With these, I give up a little of the far vision, a little fuzzy beyond 100~150 yards, and a little of the close up, fuzzy if closer than 6 inches or so. So that range should work for me, tablet, phone and pc are clear, deer hunting ranges should be good to spot them, and the scope clears it right up.

For some reason that link won't work here. But, it seems they need to modify that request to only include downloads from overseas locations, which would assist the investigation into the actual people of interest. A blanket request should be denied as it sets a bad precedence.

Maybe, but then them joining the Everytown For Gun Safety terrorist group puts them squarely in the anti 2A camp. https://tennesseefirearms.com/2019/09/walmart-partners-with-everytown-for-gun-safety-and-michael-bloomberg-to-advance-gun-ban-agenda/

The difference, for me, is that I have no beef with a store that decides to stop selling something, what they stock on their shelves is their business, decides to change their carry policy/rules or what their CEOs personally think or give money to. But when they actively join anti-gun organizations (Walmart and Everytown for Gun Safety), hire lobbyists (Dicks), stop making loans to just gun companies (Bank of America) then they are actively fighting against my 2A rights and do not deserve my support.

Well damn, I usually shop WM for my work meals and coffee supplies. I guess I'll just have to stock up elsewhere. And to think I was about to order some trailer tires from their website. I guess I'll just have to order directly from the 3rd party, or Amazon, though they are a bit more expensive, at least I'll get my money's worth out of prime.

Well, it seems news of their departure was a bit premature. I had at least two back at the feeders this morning, chasing each other all over the yard.

I don't know the name of the type that hang out here, they have a green back, but I think they might of skipped town when the temp dropped. I had two for the longest time, then a very small one, maybe their offspring joined them. Then a more colorful male came in a couple three weeks ago. But after that chilly evening, I haven't seen them. I have fresh feeders out there, just in case but I think their gone.

I'd prefer it if they did the tax free day for gun purchases that day, specially since it's close to Christmas. Didn't they do that once?

I rarely sell or trade guns, can probably count them on one hand, but I don't keep up with where they went after I make the trade or sale. Same as I don't keep track of the vehicles I've owned to see if a drunk killed someone with it. I won't sell or trade any weapons to anyone that I am suspicious of, for my safety as well as others, but just because they do not have an HCP does not automatically disqualify them with me. If there was a way to do a BC with no cost to both parties, I'd use it, Communities such as this can give you a good feel about someone, but that does not mean one of us will not go off the deep end, and BC or HCP will not guarantee that as well. I don't see anyone trying to give us any incentives to use BG checks, or submit ourselves to scrutiny by getting an HCP, more like they want to create more hurdles for the ownership of guns. If they cared, they would exempt anyone with an HCP from having to pay for another BC check everytime we get a new gun. Maybe exempt us from sales tax for the next gun purchase when you voluntarily submit to a BC check on a private sale, shoot, even a free box of ammo or something. But no, they want to put legal restrictions on the folks that are already following the law, which are the only ones that will follow new ones. I can surely guess there will be many that will not do a BG check if/when this becomes mandatory, making criminals out of law abiding citizens.

Not sure I'd agree, if he killed an anti gun bill who would he be done with? I hope most are not single issue voters, but there are enough that are to make a difference. None of the things he has done will win any of the hard left voters, and maybe he will get some of the centrist Dems, and definitely will win votes from those that just couldn't vote for him last time. I mean, who doesn't want a strong economy and low unemployment? He will win no votes implementing universal background checks, but he may lose some, so..which way do you think he will go?

I am not sold on that collar idea, maybe for a hunting dog or something, but for a home pet I would think it would have some drawbacks. If someone steal the dog, then the collar would be the first to go, if lost, then you would have to depend on someone downloading the app, probably replacing the battery, then finding the owner. Some, like me, would go through that trouble, but some will not. Tile https://www.thetileapp.com/en-us/products, kind of works like the collar, but it only shows the last location when the app lost contact with the chip. @bersaguy does the collar work like the tile chip? If it does, maybe that is a cheaper way to achieve the same thing.

Component, and loaded rounds, availability is my worry, sure now you can buy many rounds at or below what you can reload for, but what of later. I have enough components to keep me occupied for years, I have a bunch of lead too, with everything to cast my own, so cost can be reduced quite a bit. If all you do is plink and hunt now and then, then maybe commercial rounds would be better for you, but if you, like me, consider reloading as a hobby as well, well then, the cost is actually secondary.