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It would allow that. All Parks as well.

If someone could point out with empirical data that non criminals carrying would increase crime I might be up for increased training requirements. I personally think that every Citizen should be allowed to attend the POST training, figure a reasonable cost and let me go. My tax dollars pay for everyone else that gets to attend, why not me? Graduate the class, carry everywhere. Never forget the "Sheriff for Life" bill passed by the TN Legislature. The Sheriff is the Chief Constitutional officer elected in each County and until the 90s was elected first and then required to attend POST Certification school. The Sheriff's Association strong armed the GA into granting the requirement that ONLY POST certified individuals can seek that office, hence the Sheriff for Life status we now enjoy in TN. The Sheriff's Association, the Chiefs of Police, the DAs and the TBI have opposed every attempt to reconstruct via statute what was stripped by the Legislature in 1823 and 1871 from the enumerated Rights recognized by the original Constitution in1796 re Right to Arms.

Perhaps a reading of the actual bill, (which merely allows the Enhanced Permit holder to carry in such places as off duty officers) and not letting the MSM and FOP dictate the message would explain the intent of the bill and clear up the lies perpetrated in their messaging. The State decried the curriculum for the permit course, and have decided that said curriculum is with the money spent by the Citizen. As such they have tendered a license for that special class to carry a firearm. Officers can only exercise their "police powers" while "On the Job" per two Tennessee Supreme Court cases. In Jamesena WHITE, et al. v. REVCO DISCOUNT DRUG CENTERS, INC., Decided: November 22, 2000,the court pointed out police officers in Tennessee do not possess the exclusive authority to make arrests, as private citizens possess this power in many of the same circumstances as officers on official duty.   See Tenn.Code Ann. § 40-7-109 (1997) To the contrary, when officers are “off duty,” our statutes generally treat the officer as an ordinary private citizen and not as an agent or employee of the municipal police department under a general duty to keep the peace.   See, e.g., Tenn.Code Ann. § 38-8-351 (1997) (allowing officers to participate in political activities when “off-duty and acting as a private citizen,” but not when the officer is “on duty or acting in such officer's official capacity”); Tenn.Code Ann. § 38-8-303 (1997) (making distinction between “the performance of the officer's official duties” and the officer's “off-duty [private] employment” for purposes of disclosure in official investigations).   Consequently, to the extent that a nature-of-the-act analysis focuses upon some continuous duty of police officers to keep the peace, that analysis is impractical in this state. In Ezell v. Cockrell, 902 S.W.2d 394, 403 (Tenn.1995) (stating that an officer's ability to arrest at any time does not give rise to a duty to do so, but “only delineate authority and responsibility of police officers”), and a blanket rule declaring that police officers are under a never-ending duty to keep the peace is contrary to existing Tennessee law. The bill in question then would simply allow the Enhance Permit hold to carry in locations that an off duty police officer can, as they are one and the same as declared by the Tennessee Supreme Court when off duty,. If the TCA Code allows non trained designated law enforcement (judges) to have the same berth to carry as off duty officers, why not Enhanced Permit holders, as the Permit holder is never "On The Job"? https://caselaw.findlaw.com/tn-supreme-court/1333232.html https://law.justia.com/cases/tennessee/supreme-court/1995/902-s-w-2d-394.html

The intent is to allow enhanced permit holders to carry anywhere an OFF DUTY officer can carry, as two separate TN Supreme Court Cases have held that an off duty officer is merely a Citizen.

This is a terrible attempt at back door gun control. Call every member f the House Criminal Justice sub-committee and demand this be outright killed, https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Bill/HB1830.pdf The bill requires: SUMMARY OF BILL: Requires each law enforcement agency to provide a report to the Department of Health (DOH) biannually with incident-level data on shootings that occur within the agency’s jurisdiction. Requires DOH to submit an annual report on the public health impacts of gun violence on local communities to the General Assembly and each county and municipality in the state. Requires DOH to develop a gun safety program that would provide educational resources and firearm safety devices to families at no cost and be distributed through hospital emergency departments. Encourages DOH to create a new hospital-based violence intervention program to be implemented in hotspot communities within each municipality or county and to include outreach workers that would engage with gun violence victims directly and connect them to wrap-around services. Requires the Department of Safety (DOS) to develop a firearm buyback program in collaboration with local community groups. Requires the Department of Education (DOE) to develop a program for K-12 schools that teaches students methods of nonviolent conflict resolution. Encourages the Department of Labor and Workforce Development (DLWD) to create a youth employment program that includes training on the skills needed for employment, including nonviolent conflict resolution. Chairman Clay Doggett, Phone: (615) 741-7476, rep.clay.doggett@capitol.tn.gov Chairman Michael Curcio, Phone: (615) 741-3513, rep.michael.curcio@capitol.tn.gov Chairman Andrew Farmer, Phone: (615) 741-4419, rep.andrew.farmer@capitol.tn.gov Bruce Griffey, Phone: (615) 741-6804, rep.bruce.griffey@capitol.tn.gov Dan Howell, Phone: (615) 741-7799, rep.dan.howell@capitol.tn.gov Leader William Lamberth, Phone: (615) 741-1980, rep.william.lamberth@capitol.tn.gov Debra Moody, Phone, (615) 741-3774, rep.debra.moody@capitol.tn.gov Chairman Lowell Russell, Phone: (615) 741-3736, rep.lowell.russell@capitol.tn.gov Vice Chairman Jerry Sexton, Phone: (615) 741-2534, rep.jerry.sexton@capitol.tn.gov

This bill would move long guns into the enhanced permit system. It is in my estimation a very worthwhile move. If you agree, I suggest calling and emailing the committee members with your support. Chairman Lowell Russell rep.lowell.russell@capitol.tn.gov 615-741-3736 Chairman Michael rep.michael.curcio@capitol.tn.gov (615) 741-3513 Chairman Andrew Farmer rep.andrew.farmer@capitol.tn.gov (615) 741-4419 Representative Johnny Garrett rep.johnny.garrett@capitol.tn.gov (615) 741-3893 Representative Bruce Griffey rep.bruce.griffey@capitol.tn.gov (615) 741-6804 Representative John Ray Clemmons rep.john.ray.clemmons@capitol.tn.gov (615) 741-4410 Representative Antonio Parkinson rep.antonio.parkinson@capitol.tn.gov (615) 741-4575

My hope is that he comes in and assist in getting good bills passed, and I don't care who takes credit, as long as they get passed.

They had absolutely noting to do with it this time. Watching the discussion prior to the vote to accept it, there was a ton of weeping and gnashing of teeth from the Democrats...

This is the listing of Representatives that hold real sway over the outcome of 2nd Amendment restorative bills this session. As you can see, the Republicans have a numerical advantage in the Criminal Justice Committees, sub 9-2 and full 13-4. Understand this, if we fail to achieve good progress, it is not because of Democrats. Bill are killed in committee, that is the purpose of them, to give cover to the entire assembly. The reasons there is no recorded vote in committees is to hide the facts and allow the general members to say they did not vote against a certain bill while campaigning. Republicans on Criminal Justice Sub-committee: Chairman Clay Doggett, Michael Curcio, Andrew Farmer, Bruce Griffey, Dan Howell, Leader William Lamberth, Debra Moody, Lowell Russell and Jerry Sexton. Democrats: Bill Beck and G.S. Hardaway. Republicans on Criminal Justice full committee: Chairman Michael Curcio, Vice Chair Jerry Sexton, Scotty Campbell, Clay Doggett, Andrew Farmer, Bruce Griffey, David Hawk, Dan Howell, Bud Hulsey, Leader William Lamberth, Debra Moody, Lowell Russell and Paul Sherrell. Democrats: Bill Beck, Vincent Dixie, G.A. Hardaway and London Lamar. With the advent of re-districting this year, each of these elected employees of our is faced with the challenge of getting re-elected. This is the year to make our voices heard, contact these members and support the initiatives that are important to gun owners. Be polite and know your issue, when you e-mail or call, be brief but show knowledge of the public chapter the bill affects. Numbers matter, incite your contacts to join in advocating. Contact info for committee members (sub and full): Republican: Chairman Clay Doggett, Phone: (615) 741-7476, rep.clay.doggett@capitol.tn.gov Chairman Michael Curcio, Phone: (615) 741-3513, rep.michael.curcio@capitol.tn.gov Chairman Andrew Farmer, Phone: (615) 741-4419, rep.andrew.farmer@capitol.tn.gov Bruce Griffey, Phone: (615) 741-6804, rep.bruce.griffey@capitol.tn.gov Dan Howell, Phone: (615) 741-7799, rep.dan.howell@capitol.tn.gov Leader William Lamberth, Phone: (615) 741-1980, rep.william.lamberth@capitol.tn.gov Debra Moody, Phone, (615) 741-3774, rep.debra.moody@capitol.tn.gov Chairman Lowell Russell, Phone: (615) 741-3736, rep.lowell.russell@capitol.tn.gov Vice Chairman Jerry Sexton, Phone: (615) 741-2534, rep.jerry.sexton@capitol.tn.gov Scotty Campbell, Phone (615) 741-2050, rep.scotty.campbell@capitol.tn.gov David Hawk, Phone (615) 741-7482, rep.david.hawk@capitol.tn.gov Bud Hulsey, Phone: (615) 741-2886, rep.bud.hulsey@capitol.tn.gov Paul Sherrell, Phone (615) 741-1963, rep.paul.sherrell@capitol.tn.gov Democrat: Bill Beck, Phone, (615) 741-3229, rep.bill.beck@capitol.tn.gov Vincent Dixie, Phone: (615) 741-1997, rep.vincent.dixie@capitol.tn.gov G. A. Hardaway, Phone: (615) 741-5625, rep.ga.hardaway@capitol.tn.gov London Lamar, Phone: (615) 741-3830, rep.london.lamar@capitol.tn.gov Outside of calling asking your representative to co-sponsor good bills, get in touch with the committee members and ask for their vote to let the House debate and pass or fail the issues. Bills I consider important this year: HB 1898 by Grills renames enhanced and concealed handgun carry permits as enhanced and concealed firearm carry permits. HB 2323 by Grills As introduced, permits a private citizen to threaten to use deadly force in making an arrest without being subject to certain limitations. HB 2521 by Sexton revises various provisions governing the prohibition or restriction of weapons at meetings or on property owned by a private or government entity GOA bill HB 2524 by Sexton ss introduced, eliminates the criminal offenses of possession of a firearm or club with intent to go armed from 39-17-1307. HB 1375 by Todd lowers age to allow permits (if amended). HB 2770 by Todd As introduced, requires any person or entity posting signage prohibiting the possession of firearms on a property to accept custodial responsibility for the safety and defense of any person authorized to carry a handgun HB 2777 by Todd As introduced, grants a defendant who has been charged with a criminal offense based on the use of force or threatened use of force and who asserts that the force was justified by law the right to at least two justifiable use of force hearings prior to trial, at which the prosecution has the burden to prove by clear and convincing evidence that the use of force was unlawful; requires the court to dismiss the criminal charges and find the defendant immune from criminal prosecution if the prosecution fails to meet that burden. Judge Carter Act. HB 2554 by Hurt As introduced, expands the definition of "law enforcement officer" to include a person who has been issued an enhanced handgun carry permit. All but the HB 1898 by Grills are in Criminal Justice Committee, his is in Civil Justice, and I have no idea why, Firearms bills are supposed to be heard in Criminal.

Thought you would like to see the fruit of our research: Tennessee’s modern handgun permit law was enacted in 1994 at which time the Democrats controlled the office of Governor as well as the Legislature. That law was amended in 1996 when the “current” handgun law (TCA 39-17-1351) was enacted as 1996 Tennessee Laws Pub. Ch. 905 (H.B. 2381) on May 8, 1996. It was substantially amended in 1997. Since then, Tennessee’s handgun permit law has seen regular incremental amendments to the point that it is practically impossible for most civilians – and legislators – to know the history: 2000 Pub.Acts, c. 947, § 8C, eff. June 23, 2000 2001 Pub.Acts, c. 218, § 1, eff. May 15, 2001 2002 Pub.Acts, c. 601, § 1, eff. July 1, 2002 2003 Pub.Acts, c. 300, §§ 1, 2, eff. July 1, 2003 2003 Pub.Acts, c. 349, §§ 1, 2, eff. June 13, 2003 2004 Pub.Acts, c. 483, §§ 1, 2, eff. April 8, 2004 2004 Pub.Acts, c. 776, § 1, eff. May 28, 2004 2005 Pub.Acts, c. 343, § 1, eff. July 1, 2005 2005 Pub.Acts, c. 423, § 1, eff. July 1, 2005 [Note: In 2007 Republicans gain control of the Senate and Ron Ramsey takes control as Lt. Governor with the help of a vote from Democrat Senator Rosalind Kurita who was later stripped of her party affiliation] 2008 Pub.Acts, c. 1174, § 1, eff. July 1, 2008 [Note: In 2009, Republicans gained a 50-49 majority in the House and Kent Williams, a Republican became speaker when he voted for himself along with all members of the Democrat caucus] 2009 Pub.Acts, c. 101, § 1, eff. April 27, 2009 2009 Pub.Acts, c. 433, § 1, eff. June 12, 2009 2009 Pub.Acts, c. 578, §§ 10, 11, eff. Jan. 1, 2010 2010 Pub.Acts, c. 1009, § 4, eff. June 4, 2010 [Note: Bill Haslam wins the race for governor in 2010 and in January 2011 becomes Governor to serve with Republicans controlling both houses of the Legislature] 2012 Pub.Acts, c. 848, §§ 26, 27, eff. May 15, 2012 2013 Pub.Acts, c. 236, § 35, eff. April 19, 2013 2013 Pub.Acts, c. 270, § 1, eff. July 1, 2013 2014 Pub.Acts, c. 866, § 1 2014 Pub.Acts, c. 866, § 2, eff. Jan. 1, 2016 2015 Pub.Acts, c. 281, §§ 1 to 3, eff. July 1, 2015 2015 Pub.Acts, c. 459, § 5, eff. July 1, 2015 2016 Pub.Acts, c. 736, §§ 1 to 8 2016 Pub.Acts, c. 875, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 2017 2016 Pub.Acts, c. 903, § 1; 2016 Pub.Acts, c. 925, § 1, eff. July 1, 2016 2016 Pub.Acts, c. 1037, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 2017 2017 Pub.Acts, c. 159, § 1, eff. April 24, 2017 2017 Pub.Acts, c. 247, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 2018 2018 Pub.Acts, c. 690, § 1, eff. April 9, 2018 [Note: Bill Lee was elected Governor in 2018 and took office beginning in 2019. The Legislature continues under control of a super majority of Republicans] 2018 Pub.Acts, c. 865, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 2019 2018 Pub.Acts, c. 903, §§ 3, 5, eff. July 1, 2018 2019 Pub.Acts, c. 109, § 1, eff. July 1, 2019 2019 Pub.Acts, c. 345, § 54, eff. May 10, 2019 2019 Pub.Acts, c. 367, § 1 2019 Pub.Acts, c. 396, § 1, eff. July 1, 2019 2019 Pub.Acts, c. 479, §§ 3, 4, eff. Jan. 1, 2020 2020 Pub.Acts, c. 804, § 1, eff. July 15, 2020 2021 Pub.Acts, c. 64, § 46, eff. March 29, 2021 2021 Pub.Acts, c. 108, § 6, eff. July 1, 2021 2021 Pub.Acts, c. 195, § 1, eff. April 22, 2021 2021 Pub.Acts, c. 219, §§ 8, 9, eff. April 22, 2021. 41 changes to the original bill. Say the ball was kicked into the end zone, and came out to the 20. 80 yards to go to score per change would be less than 2 yards per play, that does not get you a first down and you turn the ball over. The time to act is now, with what we see in Washington, Tennessee needs to step up and return the Right to arms to the Citizens sans a permission slip from government, as existed in 1796 when we became a State. HB 2524 by Sexton does this, we need cosponsors now, as the rush to sine die is on, and, the clock is running out.

During my visit to the GA yesterday, it was relayed to me that Senate Committees will start closing in Mid-late March, and it is their intet to be done and on the campaign trail first week of April. That means that this session if going to be over in the next few weeks for all practical purposes. If there are bills that are important to you, your support of lack thereof needs to be communicated to your Rep.s and Senators right now. Re-election being the primary focus of all elected employees, the redistricting has them in a tizzy, one Senator told me he had never even been to one of the Counties now in his district. If we can put 2nd Amendment issues on the front burner this year, we have a chance to get things done. Act now!

https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Bill/HB2524.pdf As written, removes the criminal aspect of carrying a firearm in Tennessee from 39-17-1307. Sponsored by Senator Paul Bailey.

https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Bill/HB2770.pdf This bill would put responsibility on the owner/operator of a business that denies the Right of the non criminal individual to carry on or in that property. Requires the owner/operator to assume responsibility for security and safety of hose denied if if they post. Senator Janice Bowling has it in the upper chamber..

https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Bill/HB2777.pdf Might be most important bill of the session. Sen. Kerry Roberts is the Senate Sponsor. This will provide protection from up-charging by DAs attempting to make bank on prosecutions. Would prevent a Rittenhouse situation in TN. Second part of the Immunity Bills that Judge Carter helped me with last year.

I have not had that conversation yet, getting Sponsors is the first big step. Will know more in the coming days, seeing where they get assigned.

Just Spoke to Senator Joey Hensley, he is carrying the bill in the Senate.

https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB2521&ga=112

Removes the misdemeanor aspect unless the weapon is noticed and you are asked to leave, then you are guilty of criminal trespass.

This will reduce the criminal element of carrying past a posted notice, this is a GOA sponsored bill.

Filing deadline in the House is tomorrow, it is about to get a little sporty.

Open fields means if they can see it from the air, they can police it any way they want to. If the TWRA has probable cause, get a warrant.

There is a group that is working to achieve that goal, and, there is specific legislation that would do just that. Finding a sponsor in the senate is very difficult, but the ask has been made.

They have about every smidgen of Rights returned to the People, since 1871. Don't forget the Sheriff's Association.

Summary: Firearms and Ammunition - As introduced, lowers the age requirement to obtain an enhanced or concealed handgun carry permit or lawfully carry a handgun in public from 21 to 18 years of age; states that the statutory authorization to transport or store a firearm or firearm ammunition in a motor vehicle under certain circumstances does not apply to a person under 21 years of age in a parking area that is owned, operated, or while in use by any school, unless the person is at least 18 years of age and meets certain military qualifications. - Amends TCA Title 39. Hopefully this gets amended to drop the part about military service only to allow keeping in private vehicles. This is the same language in the bill that is attached to the "Governor's Bill last year, and is the subject of a law suit that has not been dismissed.

There is another bill coming similar to Griffey's which I understand has more reach and addresses the entirety of the issue, not just cost. It will follow on the heels of the Civil Immunity passed last year.