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I'm a pastor. Throughout the week I wear the uniform: khaki pants and blue blazer. The PF9 is just a tad too big and bulky for dress pants (thinner material), but is OK in khaki canvas. The p3at is lighter and smaller, and quite un-noticeable in dress slacks, even when I'm teaching Sunday School up close with twenty people. I carry the PF9 in a soft leather holster, and the p3at in the little nylon case that it comes with, unzipped at the top and side. Some people have KT pistols that give them trouble at first, but nine times out of ten that can be taken care of by a quick trip back to the factory. I've had no trouble with my PF9. I DID sent my p3at back two years ago, and it has never failed since then. Finally, the economics of the KT firearms can't be beat. I'm sure the Kahr PM9 is great, but I can get BOTH a PF9 and a p3at for the same money.

I do carry in church, and I'm not alone in my church. If anyone would like to print out my little essay, he/she is welcome to do so. Thanks for the appreciative comments! PS: The thief breaking up verses in Exodus 22:2 (up is in the old King James version).

I like the .22 and 7.62x39 as well. They are easy on my elderly shoulder.

Congrats on your Kimber. It is a handsome gun!

I like my SW9VE very much, and consider it to be one of the bargains of the handgun world. HEre are some pictures: http://www.mouseguns.com/mysw9ve/sw9ve.html

With Khaki pants, the Kel-Tec PF9 will work in the front pocket. http://www.mouseguns.com/pf9rev/pf9rev.htm With dress pants, I recommend the Kel-Tec p3at. http://www.mouseguns.com/ideal2.htm That's what works for me!

I have begun a new service of posting and archiving Classified GUNS (335) ads from the Chattanooga Times Free Press. This may prove helpful to some... http://www.mouseguns.com/class/classads.htm

I like my sw9ve very much. Here are some pix: http://www.mouseguns.com/mysw9ve/sw9ve.html

Here's a little flyer I wrote for my church's literature table.... Should Christians Keep and Bear Arms A Christian Viewpoint Dr. Marshall C. St. John The Constitution of the United States of American contains this sentence: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.†Our Constitution is not part of the Bible, however it is based on Biblical principles. For example, the Constitution speaks of the necessity of a militia for the security of a free nation. “Militia†does not mean a professional army. It means the citizens of the nation bearing arms. It is the teaching of the Bible that citizens MAY, and often MUST bear arms for the defense of the nation. For example: 7 And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. 8 And five of you shall chase an hundred, and an hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword. 9 For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you. (Leviticus 26:7-9) In order for God's people to accomplish the will of God, it may sometimes be necessary for them to bear arms and literally fight. King David wrote in Psalm 18:34-39... “He teacheth my hands to war, so that a bow of steel is broken by mine arms...I have pursued mine enemies, and overtaken them: neither did I turn again till they were consumed. I have wounded them that they were not able to rise: they are fallen under my feet. For thou hast girded me with strength unto the battle...†LESSONS FROM NEHEMIAH When Nehemiah was rebuilding the wall around Jerusalem, it was necessary for him and the other men to go armed for self-defense. Nehemiah 4:16-18 “And it came to pass from that time forth, that the half of my servants wrought in the work, and the other half of them held both the spears, the shields, and the bows, and the habergeons; and the rulers were behind all the house of Judah. They which builded on the wall, and they that bare burdens, with those that laded, every one with one of his hands wrought in the work, and with the other hand held a weapon. For the builders, every one had his sword girded by his side, and so builded. And he that sounded the trumpet was by me.†Many of the heros of the Bible were men at arms: Joshua, Gideon, Samson, etc. lessons from God’s Law The first five books of the Bible are sometimes called the “Torah,†which means “The Law.†In these books we find the Ten Commandments, and many other laws God gave to His people to order their lives. In Exodus 22:2-3 we read: “If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.†In other words, homeowners are allowed by God’s Law to defend themselves against burglars who break in at night. lessons from jesus In Luke 22:36 Jesus commanded His disciples to be armed for self-defense. “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.†Jesus commanded his disciples to buy swords, if they had none. They said they already had two, and Jesus said that would be enough. As a band of a dozen able-bodied men, they were quite safe from roving bandits, even if every man in the group was not carrying a weapon. The application is that Jesus commands us to be armed for self-defense, but He does not recommend that we go overboard with our weapons. Jesus said in another place, “He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.†Jesus encourages his followers to defend themselves, but He does not encourage us to be eager for battle and bloodshed. Self-defense may be necessary as a last resort, but violence should not be sought after and relished. God’s people are supposed to be peacemakers, not ruffians. Neither are we allowed to spread the Gospel by means of violence or military aggression. LESSONS FROM PAUL “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.†I Timothy 5:8 We must provide food and shelter for our families. It is also our duty to provide protection from criminals. The most effective way to do this is to move your family to a safe neighborhood. Also, we should make sure our communities have effective law enforcement officers. But what would you do if a criminal broke into your home? Are you prepared to defend your family? We pray for God to provide for us; but that does not excuse us from earning money, buying food and building houses. We pray for God to defend us from criminals, but that does not excuse us from taking steps to protect our families. Preserving Your Right to Keep and Bear Arms The importance of preserving your right to keep and bear arms is illustrated in I Samuel 13:19-22. “Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make them swords or spears: But all the Israelites went down to the Philistines, to sharpen every man his share, and his coulter, and his ax, and his mattock. Yet they had a file for the mattocks, and for the coulters, and for the forks, and for the axes, and to sharpen the goads. So it came to pass in the day of battle, that there was neither sword nor spear found in the hand of any of the people that were with Saul and Jonathan: but with Saul and with Jonathan his son was there found.†The Philistines conquered and dis-armed the Israelites. They even took away the means of weapons production, in order to enslave them. In order to revolt, the few Israelites who had weapons attacked some Philistines and took their weapons. This process continued until many Israelites had arms. In modern times, It is impossible to overthrow tyrants and have a free society unless the citizens have firearms, and know how to use them. RIGHTS COME FROM GOD It is vital for every Christian to realize that all our rights actually come from God. The government never gives you rights, but only recognizes rights you already have, or tries to take your rights away from you, to increase its power. It is clearly obvious that as government grows larger, our liberties are gradually being taken away. The second Amendment of the Constitution, the second right enumerated in the Bill of Rights, is the right to “keep and bear arms.†As we have seen from the scriptures quoted above, this right is rooted in the Bible, because the right to self-defense, and the obligation to protect the weak, is rooted in the Bible. An Objection Answered Someone may ask: “But what about turning the other cheek and not resisting evil? Aren’t Christians supposed to act like that? Aren’t we supposed to be pacifists?†The answer is simple: In those verses Jesus was telling Christians how to react to minor insults: a slap on the cheek, the loss of a coat, and so on. He was not addressing the Christian’s response to criminal activity or a tyrannical government. He did that when He said, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.†and “Love your neighbor as yourself.†If we love our neighbors, we will take steps to keep them safe from criminals. That may mean that we will personally need to use weapons to help our neighbors. It also means that we will support our local police in the apprehension of criminals. It also means that we will do whatever we can to make our government one that honors individual rights and liberties. Instead of taking vengeance on criminals personally, we will call on the police to find and arrest them, and bring them to justice. But when criminals attack us or our neighbors, and the police are not present, we will do what it takes, not just for our own sake, but for the Christian love we have for our families and communities. To dis-arm and to allow criminals to attack us and our neighbors unopposed is to be negligent about our Christian duty. Presbyterians thought this out a long time ago. In our official doctrinal statement, the Westminster Larger Catechism, Answer # 135 we read: “The duties required in the sixth commandment†include “just defence against violence.†Self-defense, and that involves keeping and bearing arms, is not only your privilege as an American Christian, it is your duty. Wayside Presbyterian Church 2502 Fairmount Pike Signal Mountain, TN 37377 www.waysidechurch.org

Here's a page full of quotes: http://www.mouseguns.com/quotes.htm

More congrats from Signal Mountain (near Chattanooga). Will you be getting a permit to carry a handgun? Go for it!

I'm not a hunter so I like my ammo cheap and comfortable to shoot. Right now I have rifles that shoot .22, 30/30, 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R. My preference is 7.62x39, and I think I had better hurry and buy some more before the price goes up AGAIN.

Wow! A Suarez ISI right here in Chattanooga! I'm impressed. I read Warriortalk quite often.

More about Darr's in Chattanooga. I was in there a few days ago (October 30?) and noticed he now has 4 wasrs, and a very nice side-folder Hungarian AMD65. If my memory serves, he's asking $589 for the AMD65, which seems quite high. Maybe I'm not remembering the price corrrectly. There's also a MAK90 in the Chattanooga classifieds for $450. If I had $450 I'd buy it.

Thanks for your comments. I agree that Mark Haskins is a great instructor. The Cherokee Blvd place didn't exist when I did it. Hope you get your permit SOON in the mail!

This is the story of how I got my permit to carry in Chattanooga. http://www.mouseguns.com/permit/permit.htm

I carry a PF9 every day in my pants pocket. Here's my review: http://www.mouseguns.com/pf9rev/pf9rev.htm I highly recommend it for ccw.

For carry: Golden Saber. For practice, Winchester Valu Pak

The WASR is $329 in the J and G ad in the latest Shotgun News. But if you add in shipping and an FFL charge, you are nearly up to $389. Besides, the local gun shop guy has got to make some profit or go out of business, which would be a bad thing. Yes, I think $389 is OK for the WASR in Chattanooga.

Answering my own question. Darr's in Chattanooga has one Romanian for $389.

I drove up to Prentice Cooper Monday afternoon (October 8), and found that it was pretty full! I wanted to shoot on the 100 yard range, but had to settle for the 50 yard range. I was trying out my "new" Mosin 91/30. It shot mighty fine! However, it kicks like a mule, and 40 rounds was all I could handle! Here's my Prentice Cooper link, if anyone needs directions and photos: http://www.mouseguns.com/prentice/prentice.htm

Who has AKs in Chattanooga?

Thanks, fellow preacher. I like MOST of what Ron Paul stands for. Somehow, I just can't find a candidate who agrees with me completely about everything! I think I like my PF9 just blued and shiny black.

Here are some pictures of my newest acquisition...a 1941/42 Mosin... http://www.mouseguns.com/mosgall/mosgall.htm

I haven't visited for some time, and can't remember if I posted here before. I plan to be back regularly in the future. I'm a minister in Signal Mountain, and here's my church website: http://www.waysidechurch.org And a gun oriented website I do: http://www.mouseguns.com I'm interested in small pocket guns, and in military surplus, and everything in between! Here's my new PF9: http://www.mouseguns.com/pf9rev/pf9rev.htm I'll be hanging around!