ShamGlock
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Love the Sam Harris podcast, Waking Up. There is no more interesting podcast out right now.
Also will listen to Joe Rogan if the guest is interesting, which they often are. If you haven't I would strongly recommend listening to his shows with Randall Carlson, and the other with Graham Hancock. Some of the most fascinating episodes I've ever heard.
If you are even remotely interested in history Dan Carlin's Hardcore History is a must. In particular his series on WWI is a masterpiece.
The Jocko Podcast is awesome as well, worth a listen.
Occasionally I'll rotate in Stuff you Missed in History Class, Stuff to Blow Your Mind, Stuff You Should Know, The Tim Ferris Show, and WeThePeople Live.
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I just picked up a bottle of Yellow Spot and cracked into it last night. It was absolutely great!
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Tentatively interested, pending specifics. Seems like a good time.
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Awesome! Thank you guys, first thing I've ever won!
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I love it, and this is my next purchase. But I don't want anything in the world bad enough to sell all my Glocks to get it!!!!!!
Beautiful gun, can't wait to buck up and get mine. Where'd you pick it up?
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Merry Christmas!
That's awesome!
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11 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:
I believe the NRA and the smaller orgs like GOA and the SAF to be indespensible to each other. The NRA is huge and has the influence to get things done whilst the smaller orgs keep the NRA honest and focused.
Agreed.
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15 hours ago, Dolomite_supafly said:
Lets see, I am not a member but I call and send emails to representatives all over this country. Not just our representatives either, I call offices all over this country trying to help out my fellow gun owners. And that is the type of action we need because that did more to ward off the Sandy Hook legislation on a national level than the NRA ever could. There are more gun owners who do exactly that than there are members of the NRA. Just because someone sends $35 a year doesn't mean they get to sit on their butts, do nothing else and question what others are doing. It is almost like they are joining so they don't have to do anything else.
Ask a NRA member what they did to help preserve our rights and the majority will say "I joined the NRA" (And got a free magazine subscription). Ask a typical gun owner and most will say they have sent emails, made calls as well as show up to events.
The NRA, just like the liberals, only get involved if it fits their narrative.
Just seen an article about a women who was arrested and charged for discharging a firearm. She she fired shots to try to save her children after a bad guy shot her, soon to be, husband in the head, killing him. I will bet almost anything that calls to the NRA regarding that women will get ZERO response because it does not fit there narrative. BTW, the lady had a handgun carry permit, a legally purchased firearm and had every legal right to defend her children and herself from her would be attackers but instead she was arrested. And despite this being the PERFECT case to support I bet the NRA will sit that one out.
Joining the NRA and reaching out to your elected officials are not mutually exclusive actions. I spend time doing both, when I can. I also utilized the NRA's populated form letters after Sandy Hook. Which they could not have developed without the resources to do so. The NRA, like any organization, is not perfect and has it's warts. The good they are doing right now far outweighs the things I dislike. Or I believe they are at least doing $35 worth of work on my behalf every year.
I completely understand the NRA's decision to cherry pick their involvement. For one, they do have limited resources, and secondly they can't take on cases that are losers due to the narrative that would be spun by anti's should they lose in court. In a perfect world they would be able to pick up every case like the one you mentioned, but that isn't where we are right now.
I'll stand by my original statement, if you own a gun the NRA is worth every penny of $35/yr and while I understand people have a variety of reasons for not joining, none of them resonate with me. I love the work that organizations like the Second Amendment Foundation do, but how long do you really think they would stand up to the Washington machine without the NRA taking the majority of fire?-
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I can't imagine any good reason not to be in the NRA right now. If nothing else isn't it worth $35 every year to see so many liberals piss themselves over the NRA? If you're a gun owner, and you aren't in the NRA you seriously need to ask yourself what you are doing to ensure our 2A rights for the future.
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Is Vortex making anything that competes in this space? I'd be interested if they are, I'm all in on what Vortex has been doing lately. Great products, outstanding warranty and service.
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I think it was two years ago that Glock started putting the stamp of the state of Georgia on the slides of the 19's. I took this to mean that was when they began being manufactured in Smyrna.
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All my Gen 4 19's and 17's run great. And they all have been fed Freedom Munitions pretty much exclusively because it's the best deal on ammo.
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After much back and forth, the full refund was finally issued.
Summarized; never do business with this company. And be careful ordering online. As some commented earlier, and I found out as well, some of these companies are just brokering transactions and never actually have the inventory in their possession.
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While I'm glad you got it worked out, if you write off buying firearms online because of this one transaction you're missing out pretty big.
There is a place for both. I look around online for unique guns, and to get a feel for the bottom end of pricing. This experience has only reinforced what premium I might be willing to pay my LGS.
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On the screenshots you have, do they have a disclaimer? Something like "actual product may vary from photo" or something?
If that were the case, and the part number was correct, then I can see how they would say you are "technically" at fault. Every other piece of this whole situation is terrible on their behalf, and I hope you get it worked out
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The disclaimer was buried in the terms and conditions page of the website.
I have been issued a full refund and have instructed the FFL to return the pistol. I normally do business with my LGS and this has reinforced to me why I will do so in the future. I didn't on this one because this pistol chambered in 9MM isn't really stocked anywhere around here, and when I came across what I thought was a good deal while researching it on the web I jumped on it.
I am working with my LGS now to get me a price on the gun I actually wanted. Lesson learned, the internet is still a box full of lies!!!!!!! -
That link goes to a NFDN website. The business in question pays NFDN to put their name on it and for use of their inventory. Basically from what I understand the only control Mr gun guy or whatever has over a NFDN store is setting pricing. It's one of the reasons among many others I never went with them for a online storefront (oh but they did try).
Also the stainless valor is about $300 less than the other ones, fyi.
If I understand this correctly you're saying that this website basically only brokers the transaction? They don't actually have the inventory? If that's the way you want to go to market it seems that they should be willing to accept some of the risks associated with this niche. This exact situation being a glaringly obvious negative associated with the decision to go to market this way.
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The link takes me to their homepage. What gun did you buy?
Either way, you are right; they are wrong.
Yep, it looks like they've removed it now. Either way I've got screenshots and print offs of the page.
I purchased a Dan Wesson 1911 chambered in 9MM. I thought I was getting the blued model they call duty treat. That was the description and picture. They sent a SS model. No big deal, I thought, just not what I wanted. Their customer service has me pretty irate at this point though. -
Most gun lines, stainless is always more.
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This shocked me as well. They said the duty coating is a $300 price difference. The 25% restocking fee was on top of that. I did let them know that I expect a full refund, and if they refuse I will notify my credit card company. His reply "It doesn't really work like that" This was a pretty horrible buying experience all the way around. Once more reinforcing why I typically do business with my LGS.
I've been around small business long enough to know that when these situations arise doing right by the customer is painful, but it is almost always more profitable for your business long term. -
Have they fixed the UPC? Errors happen, it's how they are rectified that marks good or bad customer service. I would not pay any additional cost, it's their mistake they should incur any cost and hassle, it's not like you changed your mind or ordered the wrong weapon.
They have not. The link I posted still works as of now. This was my point also. I have no access to the UPC. It means nothing to me. As a customer I order off of the picture and description.
For them to act as if they were doing me the world's biggest favor by not charging me a "standard 25% re-stocking fee" after I brought their mistake to their attention is what really crawled all over me. -
Well, I'm going to go to the well on this one. I"d like for TGO to let me know if I'm out of line here.
I went to purchase this gun from this site:
http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-dan-wesson-valor-9mm-black-duty-finish-double-diamond-g10-grey-grips
I have screenshots in case they change it later. Long story short they sent me a stainless version when the description and image is of a duty treat gun. I called the service office Saturday and was asked to wait until Monday when a manager would be in to handle this. No problem, I said I won't take ownership of the gun and we will wait to see how you want to proceed.
Well, I spoke with the manager today, he informed me that there was a mistake on the website, that UPC code matched up to the SS version. And that if I would like they would allow me to return that gun to them, they wouldn't charge me a re-stocking fee this time, and they would send me the gun I thought I was getting...as long as I gave them another $300. The manager then proceeds to tell me all about what an inconvenience this is for them, and how much they were going to be out for shipping and everything else. I asked him how much would he be out if I had posted this everywhere over the weekend, and how much will he be out by pissing off a customer? He then tried to re-explain to me what a favor he was doing me by not charging me the re-stocking fee. The indifference and arrogance was stunning.
I understand mistakes are made, no problem, the issue is that from a customer service standpoint no attempt was made to rectify this. They were arrogant and could not have cared less. I'm sending the gun back and taking my money elsewhere. I will own this pistol, just not from them.
Mostly I'm asking what y'all think, and letting you know that if you order from this company and there are issues, they will pretty much tell you to pound sand.
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For what it's worth, season 2 of Daredevil was pretty amazing. One of the best fight scenes ever filmed was done this season. But, I like the hell out of Chris Kyle too, so I guess I can bridge that gap?
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Yeah, he's excellent. For the double win Sam Harris had him on for a discussion on violence. It was another great episode.