Commando68

[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1354051713' post='851543'] Not calling you out or anything, 'cause I certainly don't know, but got a reference for that? as it seems totally beyond the pale. Matter of fact, assuming this is a Daytona Beach law only, I didn't think municipalities could even designate an ordinance as a "felony"? - OS [/quote]You have a point. I took the word of a local on the pier while fishing. Still the slime in DC make it easy to get tagged by breaking an erroneous law.......NFA 1934 ring a bell?

[quote name='strickj' timestamp='1353868092' post='850477'] Not me. I say a big N-O. Part of the punishment for felonies is the loss of rights and I'm fine with that. The "if they can not be trusted, they should be locked away" argument just does not work as well as it sounds. For one, excessive punishment can be unconstitutional. For two, tax payers are not willing to pay for the jails and prisons we have now. they sure as heck would not pay for doubling or tripling the budget to keep them locked away. Then there's the whole thing about who determines the trustworthiness. I'm not conformable with the power courts have currently with all of the sentencing standards and limits in place. I durn sure wouldn't want a judge with the power to incarcerate someone for life due to the court's opinion of trustworthiness. I wouldn't want lawmakers to determine this by writing blind and blanketed laws either. I think a much better option would be to change some of the felony offenses to non-felonies. [/quote] It is a felony in Daytona Beach to hit a surfer with your fishing rig when you cast even if it is by accident. This is one of the many erroneous "mala prohibita" BS laws in this secular progressive, entitlement, police state we call the "United States". Lose the right to defend my family in a crisis over that? Get real.

When convicted of a felony you serve your time and hopefully get released. Then, guess what? If you are ever re-arrested you have the following: The right to remain silent, the right to an attorney, the right to not have troops quarter in your home, the right to a speedy and fair trial, protection from unreasonable searches w/out warrant or probable cause, the right to not be punished cruelly and unusually, the right to assemble, speak freely and practice religion as you wish. However, the one right in the "bill of rights" or bill of limitations on the fedgov that gives you the right to defend yourself with a firearm is taken away forever? Why the prejudice? Why is the 2nd amendment taken away but these other "rights" are restored? Because spineless gun fearing, freedom fearing, hoplophobic slaves of the nanny state allow it to happen. Sick. Pitiful and Sick.

Hey. Firearms are for sporting purposes. You only own them with govt permission. If they deem them too dangerous, by all means submit them to your local U.N station....get a receipt! And enjoy you impish, slavish, serfdom while your female loved ones are enslaved to satisfy the needs of the troops! Awesome!

[quote name='TMF' timestamp='1353454220' post='848935'] The enemy isn't in Washington. The enemy is in the mirror. [/quote]whose side are you on?

So the tough gun owning patriots acquiesce and become little emasculated, disarmed, socialist slaves? Paying tribute to kingobama?surrendering those nasty weapons that the state views as obstacles to it's ever expanding power and influence? What about the 10th amendment? So when king o appoints two more SCOTUS and they abolish the 22 amendment. Our dear leader reigns supreme as uncontested dictator? Hey anything goes right? All should just kiss the hand of the slave master and turn in your rifles! Great.

Our Constitution will be shredded when the dear leader appoints one or two more supreme court justices. This system does NOT WORK. When we hit 20 trillion in debt and barry's cloward/piven strategy(bring down the economy by overwhelming with entitlements) pays off none of this will matter. The people that voted for the ivy league communist are either: socialists, black, hispanic, feminists, labor union thugs or what I call the "american idol mentality" lobotomized sheep. So yes, I am turing my back on the obamanation. We are the laughing stock of the world reelecting someone that despises the very country he was elected to lead.

If Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, George Washington and the gang had that attitude we would be subjects to the British Monarchy. Through creeping socialism and the growth of the nanny state we have created a nation of pathetic "american idol" worshipping sheepish slaves to the fedgov. Rugged Independent Americans that can think for themselves and have a job have to pay for it. We are no longer the land of the free and home of the brave. That is a joke. Secession is the answer. Libertarian principles of limited govt and personal freedom would make the new Republics work.

Suggested Reading: "Molon Labe" by Boston Tea Party. I think this attitude of going along with the agenda or your twinky supply will dwindle is wimpy. We possess the teeth of liberty. The bottom feeding, statist slime from the swamp in washington want to take away those teeth. How would the putrid, socialist leeches from the white house enforce this doomsday scenario on a new Republic of 4-5 states? It cannot happen. Leviathan would get bitten in one of it's many tentacles.

We are no longer the land of the "free"" and the brave. We live in the land of the sheep and the home of the slaves.

Romney would have behaved for four years. The radical/socialist/statist/anti-colonial/community organizer will push the cloward piven strategy to destroy our economy and push the gun ban agenda. Rome is burning and the sheeple are worried about sports scores. We are headed for a storm. A bad one.

Secession is likely coming. O has nothing to lose. If you are an independent thinker, hard worker, tax payer, gun owner, white male you have a bullseye on your chest. Count on it. Suggested reading:" Enemies Foreign and Domestic" by Mathew Bracken. Anything by Boston T. Party.

His reelection is going to bring the festering boil to a head. The infection will be lacerated and the healing will begin. They are coming for the guns ladies and gentlemen. It is just a matter of time.

Scalia knows better. He knows the 27 words in the 2nd amendment as defined by Noahs Dictionary exclusively forbids the scum at the fedgov from passing any law that infringes on our unalienalbe right to bear arms. The other slime that he crawls around with influenced him in some way.

If the kenyan gets reelected he has NOTHING to stop him and his agenda. Klinton and the kenyan are Constitutional Scholars. They know exactly what they are doing. They are all guilty of treason over this U.N Treaty. They should be impeached, fired, tried, prosecuted and incarcerated for treason. barry will plunge this country into economic collapse and turn our sovereignty over to the u.n in his next term. I truly hope "The People" make a stand. His "Sheeple" won't.

Very well said.

Expect a govt. staged event to trigger emergency legislation including gun registration and "assault weapons banned". Obama will have nothing to lose. States will exercise their 10th. Amendment powers and the U.S will break off into several republics. The libertarian "free" the socialist/police state northeast and the canadian/american providences under socialist/dicatorship. Oh and the reconquista that will take place in Kalifornia and NM.