TGO David

Nah, let's keep it cost effective.

Joe... Brian has a great idea. Maybe have the logo on the adjustable band in the back of the hat or embroidered on the back of the hat somewhere?

I added some new avatars and smilies today. The smilies will be self explanatory as you find them. The new avatars are: If you have a manufacturer or an avatar idea that you don't see listed here, reply to the thread and I will do my best to get something added. You are always welcome to use an avatar of your own design, of course.

By the way folks... one of the reasons why I also think the TGO initials work better for clothing is that there are times when subtlety is a good trait to have. Anyone who looks at the big TGO initials and logo won't immediately think GUNS! GUNS! GUNS! which could be a good thing in some circles. That's another reason why I personally would very likely wear a hat or shirt with that logo in a more subdued color scheme, especially at work on casual days. People who know me and know my interests will immediately understand the logo and spot the URL. People who don't, won't... and that's good.

Do you guys like this? I think it will flow a little better in embroidery form than the logo at the top of each page here. The gray background is just there to give a little contrast. The watermark is there for intellectual property reasons.

Graphics are a comin'. I've been absolutely covered up at work this morning. My penance for taking yesterday off, I'm afraid.

Money that his wife hasn't spoken for.

You'd be more than welcome to shoot mine any time you want. I'd really suggest shooting one before buying as -- for some reason -- they definitely feel different to me than a lot of other guns do.

Yeah but... **** happens, slides get locked back prematurely, mags jam, you get your strong arm injured, etc. I like ambi controls.

But... it has... an EXPOSED HAMMER!

Very sexy, señor.

Yep. Shot about 40 rounds through it today before deciding to try and make arrangements to take it home with it. I like it. My grouping wasn't great, but it was at least a grouping with the V3. I just need more time behind the trigger to get used to it. I've got to say, however, that as soon as my CTAC for the SIG P220 SAO comes in, the P2000 will probably only get carried when I feel that the HK's smaller size would be a better option. The 36 is single stack? Hmmm. I didn't know that. Now give it ambidextrous controls and I'll give it a closer look.

I have owned two such pieces of "perfection" in the past. I'm not as opposed to them as it may seem, but I don't foresee owning another in the near future unless something really cool comes out with the Glock name stamped on the side of it. Like.. .a single stack polymer .45ACP of the same height and length of the G23. If they made that, I'd be all up on it.

I would also say... please don't call Hero Gear to order anything yet. I just wanted everyone to know that this has not been forgotten about. It's just been a little slow in the making. As soon as Hero Gear is ready to accept orders, I'm sure they or I will post about it.

Please see the first post in this thread for some updated news. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/showpost.php?p=29140&postcount=1

Joe @ Hero Gear and I talked about this today. It looks like we have 7 definites and 15 maybes. I am going to run with a figure of 20 people showing up and base my efforts at planning this off of that. Sound good to everyone?

Minor update... I traded the V2 (LEM) for a V3 (DA/SA) today. Dan @ Hero Gear was nice enough to take me to the nearby range to let me kick the tires a bit and see if I liked the V3 any better. I did. The trigger on the V3 is a lot more predictable to me. I realize that this boils down to both personal preference and training yourself to adjust to the LEM trigger, but the LEM didn't pass muster in the preference department and I guess I'm getting too set in my ways to make myself adjust to the LEM when another variant was far easier for me to use. I can't say enough good things about Hero Gear. They've taken care of me every time I've been in there and I've seen that they do the same for everyone who walks through the door. Thanks guys.

I've carried into an airport before to pick someone up, but of course never attempted to carry beyond the metal detectors. I'd never leave mine locked in the car at Nashville International seeing how cars do get broken into from time to time.

Heh... we aim to please. I've got a few that are hilarious but not suitable for posting here.

I like it. It's a middle of the road theory that probably most closely approximates the truth of the thing. You should get into politics.

It could be because they are changing the verbiage in the signs and were instructed to remove the old ones but haven't received the new ones yet. Or it could be a conspiracy to get you to carry onto Federal property.

I'm out of town on Saturday but if there's nothing going on Friday evening I may try to stop by just to say hi to you, Frank. And look around some. It's fun just to go people-watching at gun shows.

This is the kind of catastrophic failure that can happen in any gun. It is representative of what happens when you fire an overcharged round, whether it was overcharged by you or by the manufacturer. It can happen in Glocks, H&Ks, 1911s, revolvers, rifles and probably even a howitzer. With enough of an overdose of propellant, you can blow up just about anything. Anyway, that's why I put the thread in the Ammo Can forum rather than the handgun forum. It wasn't a firearm failure, it was an ammo failure. Or more exactly, a failure on the part of the person who loaded that ammo. Too much attention on the TV and not enough attention on the powder charge. I'm actually surprised at how well the XD contained the pressure.

Welcome, neighbor. Fellow Smyrna-ite here as well.

Devil's Advocate: Is it possible that these reports from the KPD (about the kid having a serious attitude with the cop in question) are being proliferated by the KPD to do some damage control? I don't know the kid. Never met him, probably never will. All I know is that he seems to have gotten rough handling from an overzealous LEO who apparently DID have an attitude about open carry, who threatened to find a reason to file charges against a legally armed citizen, and then who subsequently tried to side-step the issue by claiming that his former state of residence and employment didn't allow open carry -- a claim that we've also proven is untrue because that state DOES allow open carry. If I were the KPD public relations machine, I'd be telling my officers to talk up how much the citizen (kid) was an arrogant ass too. It makes you look a little less bad.