TGO David

Kids Told To Remove Tiny Rifles From Graduation Caps POSTED: 9:20 am PDT September 12, 2007 UPDATED: 9:38 am PDT September 12, 2007 <script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.knbc.com/js/13260191/script.js"></script><!--startindex-->RANCHO PALOS VERDES, Calif. -- Cornerstone Elementary School will review its zero-tolerance policy toward guns on campus this fall after fifth-graders were told to remove weapons from the hands of toy soldiers that festooned their graduation caps. "We don't want to repeat mistakes or offend people," Walker Williams, superintendent of the Palos Verdes Peninsula Unified School District, told the Daily Breeze."We didn't intend to offend." The school principal, Denis Leonard, did not want to talk to the newspaper. Glen Nakata, the father of fifth-grader Austin, met with Williams and district officials in July to discuss the policy. "I'm glad they're taking these steps," he told the Daily Breeze. A lawyer for the National Rifle Association, Chuck Michel of Long Beach, suggested district officials had taken the policy to a ludicrous extreme. "This school district recognizes that they don't have any reason for doing this," he told the Daily Breeze. About 10 years ago, a teacher at Cornerstone started what is now a tradition: having youngsters decorate their graduation mortar boards to illustrate what they might do in the future. Source: http://www.knbc.com/news/14098267/detail.html

Editorial: The war on deadly mascots Return the guns to Parry McCluer High School's pirate. <!--EndNoIndex--><!--BeginNoIndex--> <!--EndNoIndex-->Buena Vista's Parry McCluer High School has a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to guns on campus. That sensible policy became ludicrous when school officials disarmed their mascot, a flintlock-wielding pirate lost his weapons in a new logo. Principal Haywood Hand saw conflict between the gun ban and the a mascot that featured pistols. "It is hypocritical to promote a mascot with a gun in each hand," he said. So he ordered the logo redrawn without guns. No guns on campus -- smart. No guns in a cartoon caricature -- silly. Parry McCluer students did not look at their beloved pirate and think to themselves, "Gee, if it's OK for a buccaneer dressed in blue to dance around with antique guns, it must be OK for me. The school sure is sending me mixed messages." High school students are smarter than that. They can discern between a cartoon that looks like Yosemite Sam and reality. Such smothering protection is just as detrimental to maturing teens as letting them run wild without oversight. What's next? Will Christiansburg High School ban its Blue Demons? That is what a number of Christians demanded a few years ago after the Montgomer County School Board forced Blacksburg High School to change from the Indians to the Bruins. A zero-tolerance policy against devil-worship seems to demand it. Or maybe Roanoke County's high schools need to update their mascots. Images of Knights, Highlanders, Titans and Vikings -- at Cave Spring, Glenvar, Hidden Valley and Northside -- all could go the wrong way. The schools do not allow lances, swords and axes on campus. Surely they share Principal Hand's concerns about hypocrisy. Only Roanoke County's William Byrd High School seems safe with its incongruously tame Terriers. Then again, aside from service dogs, the school usually does not allow canines. That's another mixed-message. Parry McCluer administrators should focus on the real guns that could make a campus dangerous, not a cartoon pirate. Source: http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/wb/wb/xp-131653

I know what you're thinking... You're thinking "Great here's another thread bashing Glocks" but that might not be the case. Actually, I just got done reading a FAQ of sorts that addresses a lot of the things that are used to malign these handguns. Perhaps a little known fact is that I've owned two Glocks personally. A G27 and a G23. I've never owned a 9mm version but confess that the G19 has tempted me on more than one occasion as has the new 21SF. Not because either of them are particularly revolutionary, but because I do collect firearms (even if I don't keep them all) and Glock did transform the firearms industry in the 1980's. Anyway, here's the article in question. Feel free to read it and then post up your own thoughts. http://f-r-i.com/glock/FAQ/FAQ-casefailure.htm

You know... since then, Springfield has started selling the XD45C Tactical. 5" bbl from the tactical model but the short grip of the compact. Very nice.

We aim to please. Really? Cool... glad it helped you out too!

You lost me there.

I made a change whereby it will no longer be based on session cookies but actually be tracked by the forum database as to whether unread threads exist for a member. The catch to this is that it will reportedly case an increase of CPU utilization on our web server, so I will need to monitor this and might have to change it back if it slows things down too much. We'll wait and see how it goes.

Ah... cooler air. I drove my obnoxiously loud, unrefined, rednecky 20yr old Mustang into work today and it was gobbling up cool air like a Rottweiler on a can of Alpo.

Here's a pleasant surprise... Someone from H&K USA customer service noticed my quandary on the H&K Pro forum and sent me a nice private message stating that 4" low at 7 yds is a hallmark characteristic of over-pulling the LEM trigger and stated that the lighter trigger return spring and firing pin block spring is practically guaranteed to cure it for me. So I'll be ordering those parts immediately. Whomever said H&K customer service sucks apparently hasn't dealt with these folks lately. It's pretty much top notch when someone goes out of their way to initiate contact with a customer rather than the opposite.

You and I aren't going to see eye to eye on this. To me, when someone makes a stupid statement like "David spends more time wiping his guns down with a diaper than he does shooting them" it strikes me as being absolutely idiotic. Thus, you were an idiot for making it. If you knew me, you would know that I generally shoot the hell out of anything I own. a.) I've had the firearm for a week now. I've fired it every time an opportunity has presented itself and for no less than 200 rds each time.b.) I can't exactly walk out into my back yard at 10pm and fire off a few rounds. It'd like to but I can't. Maybe you have that luxury. c.) What amount of trigger time allows a person to really formulate an opinion on a firearm? I think Glock triggers are complete pieces of ****, and that's an opinion that I formed the first time I picked one up and made it go snap. But I learned to work with that, just the same as I will learn to work with the LEM system. I take constructive criticism quite well actually, but so far nothing you have said is even remotely constructive. It's funny how people sometimes act like complete asses and then say, "Hey... you can't take constructive criticism can you, buddy!" If it quacks like a duck...PS: It's not your honesty that's making you look stupid. Food for thought. PSS: Here is a whole thread of me taking constructive criticism on the LEM trigger. The difference is, those people are making suggestions and you're just being an argumentative dick.

Heh... that H&K wasn't as expensive as you might think. The P2000 is maybe $200 more than a Glock 23 if you count taxes. But you're more than welcome to shoot the hell out of it, and will likely shoot it better than I do if my luck continues to hold out.

No... it's employed. You didn't imply idiocy but you did employ it. I may not know nothin' bout them there tactical things, but I do know a thing or two about readin' and writin' and flossin' my guns with cloth diapers.

I don't have anything high-dollar but anyone's welcome to shoot anything I bring.

Hmmm... I think I know what you mean. Let me see what I can do about it.

That is seriously one ugly... thing. I remember seeing that on Future Weapons a while back. Definitely a case of function over form.

I'm trying to think of a reply that wouldn't bring me down to the same level of assumption and idiocy that you employed with that post... but I can't. That's pretty funny. I bet you've trained with some IT guys, accountants, nurses, lawyers, etc. and have been dying for the opportunity to say something like that for years. How did it feel? I guess this is where we set the precedent that someone who has never been LE or an "operator" can't have an opinion on all of this man stuff... And there we go.Actually, I do value the opinions of people who have used their firearms in situations like you've described. That's what made me take a closer look at the design limitations of the Glock and why I decided to carry something else. Maybe we can arrange to have my sources argue with your sources. I like Fords, too... are you a Chevy guy? We can get some of those people together and let them slug it out at the same time since that's essentially what this boils down to. There you go with the banning thing again. I'm really sorry to let you down, but I'm not much on mercy killings. If you're so convinced that this forum is run as some totalitarian regime then I'd like to point out that we haven't secured the borders and anyone can relocate as they desire. My guess is that you're just trying to build a case so that later you can point back, pull your belt up a little, push out your chest and say "YEP... I told that Tungsten guy he could just ban me if he wanted!"Um, ok. Noted. Thanks? As for my inevitable return to Glocks, it's funny... I've been on record for a while now as saying that one of these days I'll likely own another. I don't know that it would be my every-day carry but I do like them. I do doubt that it would be another .40SW as I don't like Glock's decision to give the chamber such a gaping maw just so that rounds wouldn't bottleneck as they hit the feed ramp. There are better designs to solve that problem; Glock just took the easy way out. The 21SF still looks kind of neat, but it would likely spend a lot of time just sitting in the safe, brought out occasionally only for a good diaper wiping. You seem obsessed with this. If it's an intimidation thing... you lose. I don't scare. Sorry. We can meet anytime you want at the range. I'm also sure enough of myself to repeat anything that I've said here, in person.Outshooting me and the P2000 right now wouldn't be an accomplishment for you to brag about. I could throw this gun with better accuracy. The LEM trigger is taking a lot for me to get accustomed to. Now, if I get to choose my poison, I'll bring one of my 1911s and we can see which of us can circumcise a gnat first at 50 yds. If it's just a thing of seeing who's gun can cycle 1,000 rounds without fail... I think the H&K can handle that. Hell, me shooting 1,000 rounds through it might help me get used to the funky trigger some anyway. Substitute "bowling ball" for "you come across like an a-hole on the Internet" and I'll agree with that. Again, I'd say it in person. But I've been called the same and been told that I have the tact of a chainsaw ... so what's a guy to do. It couldn't bother me less. You're just speaking my language. When September 11th becomes the day that you remember losing one of your children way too early... talk to me about being in a mood. Regardless, no harm has been done.

West Tennessee, North Georgia, Glock, wheelgun, flintlock... spear and sling. Doesn't matter. All will be welcome. But Len better bring his Kimber.

Lots of reflection, both on a personal and a "national" level. Continually mindful of and thankful for the fact that there are thousands of sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, dads, moms, husbands, wives out there right now putting their lives on the line for our nation and it's interests. Have fun with all of that super-duper uber ninja stuff, Joe!

Yeah.

Yeah, sorry... SP01 is a CZ 75 Variant. I misread 101 as 01.

Circular magazine... check.

If I put wheels on my P2000, will that make you happy?

Sure, I could ban you. But what would that prove? I don't feel like it's necessary just because someone didn't agree with me on the Internet of all places -- and agreeing with me has never been a prerequisite for being a member here and never will. If that's how you function when someone disagrees with you... wow. Kleenex?

Very glad. Very anxious for cooler weather.

Hey... if they're not coming then I don't want to hear from them.