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It doesn't seem to be real popular over at the 6.8 forums either. Seems like Remington/Bushmaster want to reinvent the 6.8 spec.

Not a liberal, but I also don't like Palin, so I will take the bait. It's a bit of a layup though. The most common criticism of her notes has been that she openly criticizes others for reading from tele-prompters (which she herself does). I think this is a valid criticism. One of the things that marked democracy from previous political systems was that it shifted power from those who were of noble blood, divined by God, or had the most military strength to giving power to those who could wield language. Palin's implication is that composed language is somehow less authentic that impromptu speech. As an English teacher, I have to utterly disagree with this point for a couple of reasons. First writing is an act of organizing ideas, and an act of thinking–one that is often quite different from other forms of thinking. Writing and composing allows us to freeze language–to study and explore the connections between ideas and words. There is a reason why human civilization (and also, it is worth mentioning, academic study) advanced with the advent of the written word. However, Palin's implication is wrong for another reason. The greek word rhetoric originally meant "the art of speaking." Speech is as much a crafted action as writing. Those skilled in rhetoric have studied or internalized many forms and templates from which to improvise (much like a skilled jazz or blues musician might). An important point, though, is that Palin is not a skilled rhetor, and her attack on prepared speeches is more an attack on skilled communication. Her attacks are as much a defense of her lack of rhetorical skill. However, Palin's attacks on skilled communication go much deeper. Palin claims we shouldn't just distrust skilled communication, we should distrust the education that creates it. She criticizes Obama for being educated, when the holes in her general knowledge are shocking. We can criticize Obama for many things, but being educated shouldn't be one of them. As a teacher, I find this to be a really disturbing trend, coming for the most part out of American politics. There is a growing movement in America that believes education is not to be trusted, and is not a valuable pursuit. Every semester I see more college students who want to wear their ignorance like a badge of honor rather than learn to think critically and defend and evaluate the positions they hold. Sarah Palin is emblematic of, and a growing part of that movement. Her recent tea party speech was a great example of this kind of low brow populism. Back to the issue of the notes on the hand. If you watch where she used her notes, it wasn't during the speech, but during the Q&A. She has been accused of being a kind of conservative buzzword mad lib. I can't disagree. When she is not giving a speech she has had the opportunity to prep for, she simply cannot put together a coherent string of thoughts. The notes on her hand were a perfect example. She got stuck, looked down at her hand, and just plugged in a word. If we hold Palin to her own standard that unprepared speech is a more authentic measure of a person's ideas, she fails. Yet, ss I mentioned above, the ability to think and speak on the fly is not a fair measure of one's intelligence, or even of their communication skills. Nor is it a measure of true or authentic speech. Authentic speech is measured by a knowledge of rhetorical devices and appeals, an understanding of logical fallacies, and the ability to evaluate facts and evidence. These are skills that are learned through education–the very kind of education Palin warns we should be suspicious of.

The better prank would be to just leave!

I really like the gills, too. The sandpaper feel wears off after a few range sessions, and just becomes a really grippy grip.

For 9mm, I wouldn't dream of going Gen 4. The Gen 3 is perfect. For .40 I would think about it. I really like the RTF that everyone hates, so I went with the pre-gen4 rtf glock 23.

I have to agree with jack on this one. There is no way that you should have pointed a loaded firearm at an unarmed man. I can understand a raised gun when the threat was unclear, but the second you assessed the situation, you should have lowered to the ready. You could have easily turned what might have been an honest mistake in to a VERY tragic situation. You could also have avoided something tragic happening to you, but from your description, you could have done that with your gun at the ready.

"Authorizes individuals who have served 10 or more years as Tennessee’s Secretary of State, Comptroller, Treasurer, a member of the Governor’s Cabinet, or cabinet level staff to be eligible to serve as the chancellor of any public state institution of higher education. Requires such individuals to hold a baccalaureate degree from an accredited university."

Cronyism at its best. Tennessee General Assembly Legislation

I use 5.0 gr of 231 for plinking loads. Very accurate and very low recoil. It might also depend on what you are shooting. When I had a P220, that load would sometimes short stroke. However, I've never had a hiccup with my 1911.

I found this a pretty interesting (If scary) read. Thought others on here might like to read it too. Japanese Gun Control What it underscores for me is the interconnectedness of our rights–you can't take out one and not expect to lose others.

I've got one of the EFK double recoil springs for my 23-->32 conversion, but I've yet to shoot with it. I wouldn't hold your breath on the gen 4. It looks like march for the 19 and 23, then late next year for the rest. The 33 already has a double recoil spring, so no big change there.

Glockster, that is why I went the 23 route. I bought a fully supported 357 aftermarket barrel because of the higher pressures of the 357. The other factor that steered me to the 23 was that I love the rtf frame, and it isn't available in 32. Since this is your first trip to the glock side, it's worth mentioning that I avoided them for years. I've tried everything under the sun, but never owned a glock. I finally gave in when I found the 23 rtf. I couldn't be happier. The lighter .40 ammo is indeed a very cool development. I'm kind of unclear why the round started with such a heavy bullet. However, my understanding is that the 357 sig can still get it moving faster. I've got mine going at just over 1360fps with 13.1gr of #9 with no signs of overpressure. I'm sure it could get faster, I just like to stick in the conservative numbers when reloading. I think the numbers on that 135gr .40 are 1325. Wouldn't you also lose density by making the wider bullet significantly lighter? Edit: here are cor-bon's numbers on comparable 357 and .40 defensive rounds (they tend to underrate velocity). Caliber: 357 Sig Bullet Wt.: 115gr COR®BON Self-Defense JHP Velocity: 1500fps Energy: 575ftlbs Caliber: 40 S&W Bullet Wt.: 135gr COR®BON Self-Defense JHP Velocity: 1325fps Energy: 526ftlbs Caliber: 357 Sig Bullet Wt.: 125gr COR®BON Self-Defense JHP Velocity: 1425fps Energy: 564ftlbs Caliber: 40 S&W Bullet Wt.: 150gr COR®BON Self-Defense JHP Velocity: 1200fps Energy: 480ftlbs

I am a big 357 sig advocate. There have been some reports of some funky mags coming with recent batches of 32s. I'm not sure that getting a 23 isn't a better route, then getting a conversion barrel. If you reload, reloading for the 357 sig isn't too bad and will save you a ton of money. Last I saw, it was $24 for 50 WWB. I reload it for around $13 per 100.

That intelligence was cherrypicked to make a case for war–a war a lot of people got rich from, and patriotic Americans paid the price for. We can play a semantics game about the meaning of the word lie, and you can call me foolish all you want, but that doesn't change what happened. It was a weak, manufactured case for for an unnecessary war. Traces of this, traces of that. Nerve gas was what not what we were told was there, and to pretend like that is some vindicating fact is utterly disingenuous. There was much worse going on elsewhere, before, during, and after Saddam. We never felt the need to intervene. Iran was an is a greater threat. The humanitarian argument is B.S., because after the Day of the Marines in Somalia, the unspoken policy because to sit on our hands for every African genocide like Rawanda, and Darfur. There was little to no 9/11 connection in Iraq, and yet somehow you are trying to tell me that deposing the one secular leader in the region is a just response to attacks from Bin Laden's terrorist network? All I am saying is that there is such a heard-like mentality in our political system. People simply can't get past left and right. Those on the left will never leave their camp, and those on the right won't leave theirs. Moore is an idiot, and should be publicly ridiculed as one. His practices are unethical, and his logic is anything but. However, he is no different than the Glen Becks of the world. Their stock and trade are emotion and character attacks disguised as logic. The sooner we ship them all off the better our public discourse will be. But, we won't, because people refuse to look at the world from outside their own camp. The supreme court just dealt perhaps the greatest blow to the bill of rights ever, granting corporations the same rights as individual citizens, yet because the conservative justices did it, many on the right are unwilling to question it, even hailing it as a victory. I just get tired of coming on here and reading about these silly statements about straw man "liberals." The country has become so divided that we can't see we are getting screwed from both sides. From where I sit, it only looks to be getting worse.

For starters, I am a moderate. For seconds, WMD. If we can agree that that was a crock, there won't be much we can agree on politically. Every politician is full of it, period. I just tend to have a particular distaste for the politicians who are full of it to make their buddies rich on no-bid war contracts. P.S. I amend my comment. We can certainly agree that Moore is a slimeball. The worst part of that film was that the Heston speech is also heavily, heavily edited to make him say things he never even said.

Oh come now. Bush and Cheney anyone? Number one rule of politics is: In the absence of facts, lie!

The sniping scene is way off. If a PSL could shoot like that, I would own 10. I liked the movie, but thought the ending was awful. It should have ended in the Humvee when they are driving off.

Ran across this gun today: Shoots a round (4.5x40r) that looks like a photoshop job:

Nice. I've made it out the last 3 mornings. Picked up a fresh trail this morning though, so I think I am in some luck tomorrow.

K/D: 2.59 Kills 8035

hmmmm, jealous.

Well, they are wild pigs. However, shot placement doesn't seem to be a priority for them.

The other guy seems to be a fairly awful shot!

they found some odd birds for that game.

Mine took two and a half weeks.