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13 hours ago, Jeb48 said:
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Stop it! Old Colts are so sweet, and expensive. That pair is beautiful!
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34 minutes ago, pop pop said:
"Violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it's the only answer."
I don't remember the book but it's a true statement.
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On 6/6/2025 at 10:10 AM, Will Carry said:
Baby Face Nelson was shot 17 times with 45acp and 00 buckshot. He still managed to kill two G-men, get in a car and make it to a safe house, where he bled out. Sometimes the bullets just don't hit the right places.
This strengthens the shot placement argument somewhat. However, the.45s were almost positively not hollow point and buckshot runs out of steam fairly quickly.
That said, one 45 to the central nervous system would have dropped him like a wet rag.
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1 hour ago, leroy said:
Will....
In the old days before the " cocked n locked " dogma became gospel, us lefties carried our Gubt models on the half cock with a spur hamner. Ya cocked on the draw ALA the old Single Action Army.
It worked very well, as the 1911 has a rebounding firing pin.
Now they send you to the " Re-education Camp " run by brutal Soviet style 1911 apartachiks for doin such things.
Remember, the 1911 was a calvary sidearm. They put the safety on when the shootin wuz over.... HEHEHE.
re-educated leroy with a beaver tail and a rowell hammer ( SIGH )... Re-educated in 1911 gospel.
Yep, I'm a Col. Jeff Cooper fan. I carry condition 1, Cocked & locked, chamber loaded, hammer cocked, safety on. While this is the preferred method, what you are describing is condition 2 which was totally acceptable and may have been the way southpaws were taught when I was in way back then. I will say that I do not like ambi safety levers as having a lever away from the body leaves it open to be disengaged by simply sliding into the car seat. I also believe the 1911 feeds more reliably with 45 ACP than the 9MM. Has to do with ramp angle and OAL of the cartridge. Most mid to high end pistols have figured out how to overcome this issue.
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I've bought from GunBroker. I've bought from local auction house but not firearms.
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4 hours ago, Luckyforward said:
My kind of "power" chair.
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6 hours ago, JustEd said:
Check you owners manual for the proper procedure to tighten lug nuts.
If we have COTD, someone tell me how to post this one.
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On 5/25/2025 at 2:46 PM, MEGASTAR said:
The firestar plus with impossible to find mags is alloy frame and was only mfgd in 9mm.
I recently sold a Starvel PD and 3 factory Starvel mags. I tamed the recoil with a 20lb recoil spring. It was a 1990, last year, production where they eliminated that goofy overcomplicated rear sight and just used a Star 30M one. A very good move.
I have no idea if even the heaviest 180gr .40 would cycle the massive slide of the Megastar.
I see the plus occasionally on GB. I had forgotten they were alloy framed. But as you said, 9mm only. I do love my M45, second one I've had as I sold the first one to pay my divorce lawyer. They aren't perfect but it fits me quite well.
Megastar wouldn't be my choice for 40 shooting 40. Little bit of overkill there LOL.
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I carry an officer's size 45, all steel, and it's a chunk. Not a 1911 pattern but modified of the same type action. If I were picking a 1911 for EDC it would be a lightweight commander. My preference is for hammer fired SA but I am trying to get used to a poly frame DA/SA double stack. Less weight, more rounds, and a decock/safety lever so it can be cocked and locked or first shot double action. Trust me when I say a full sized all steel 1911 takes dedication to EDC.
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46 minutes ago, pop pop said:
Gas stations are a real problem when one is forced to leave his vehicle for fuel stops. What I been saying all along. I always lock my doors if I walk away from my vehicle.
The video is shocking and shows never turn you back on a perp even after you shoot them. By the time the good Samaritan noticed, too late. If one is going to get involved, shoot to stop, as many times as it takes if at all possible.
Just read an article on the Underrated 380 ACP written by Lindsey Bertomen in the July/August American Handgunner Magazine I just received in the mail yesterday. His words, "The Most Underrated Cartridge." He is handloading and did quite a bit of experimenting. Said he never got the desired FBI 12" to 18" standard but did get over 12" with all copper Barns bullets and LHigh bullets from the 380. He also discussed the newer LeighHigh type ammo. Said they were the best he could find and said that was the way to go, IHO.
Frankly I don't care if my ammo expands very much from a 380.
Of all of the testing I have seen and read 380 doesn't reliably expand due to lower velocities. This applies to 38spl in snubbies though not as much. Many recommend using solid bullets in these. I still use hollow points as finding a heavier bullet is going to be rare. I would trust the FBI load in 38 snub nose if I had one. Some foreign have use 380, 9mm Makorov and even 32 acp. To be fully up front, these are not fighting pistols. They are up close get out of this situation rounds. I don't plan on a protracted gunfight, I plan to get my wife and myself out of the area and let law enforcement handle it.
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4 hours ago, Alleycat72 said:
I don't know what he was shooting, but this is why I want "enough gun"
Warning
bad things happen in the video
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16kpRaZM4X/
I find this very disturbing, at least two rounds into the side window without breaking glass.
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9 hours ago, MEGASTAR said:
We can go shoot mine anytime you like. I have the Mega 10 and 45.
Funny, they replaced the beautiful Star PD, which had an alloy frame with the Firestar which is an all steel anchor.
I've seen .40 run in 10mm but why bother.
That is a fine offer. I'll take you up on it soon.
I think the Firestar is a better design but I do wish it had an alloy frame. The MIM frame was a cost cutting measure but with the reviews I read before I bought my first one I'd have paid more for a machined alloy frame. I picked my first one up and knew it was a good fit.
As for running 40 S&W in 10mm, when the ammo shelves emptied during covid, there were two calibers left, 40 S&W and a few boxes of 44 mag. Just mentally covering the bases. I would imagine the big Megastar is quite tame with the lighter commercial loads.
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8 hours ago, Kywldcts said:
I carried a .40 (Glock 22) as a duty weapon for years. And from personal experience it will 100% put someone down effectively and quickly. It’s a great round. It’s also not something that, in my opinion, is practical for concealed carry unless you’re carrying a full sized gun. And it’s comparatively expensive to shoot.
I have no doubt 40 will work. You bring up a good point though, it's cheaper to run 9mm than any other centerfire pistol round. Recoil isn't as hard but it is snappier that 45
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9 hours ago, gun sane said:
Hope y'all get back to your fighting best soon!
I am more concerned with my spine than my shoulders. I do have pain in my shoulders if I move them wrong but I've learned to deal with it. Like leroy said, if it gets bad enough I'll get it fixed. Thank you for the good wishes.
I have noticed I don't want to put as many rounds downrange as I used to.
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29 minutes ago, deerslayer said:
63 is plenty young to do it. I did it at 51 on the right side and it went great. Now I’m 53 and so far so good on the left, but it’s still early. My dr. said his average victim is 60.
If you saw how I tore my left one back in December, you’d definitely laugh at me.
My left has been torn for over 15 years, probably wouldn't help it. I don't know how long the right has been torn. They found it before doing the fusion on my vertebra. I've had 7 surgeries since 2012. Recovery gets tougher every time.
Sorry for hijacking bersaguy thread people.
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29 minutes ago, deerslayer said:
Nope
I shoot left handed and just had rotator cuff surgery on my left shoulder BUT I would win that bet shooting weak hand only.
papa61, bring your car title. I’ll even give you a ride home.
Sorry, not funny about the shoulder bud, I was laughing that you'd think I'd need a ride.
I refuse to have that surgery at my age, one of the nursing techs at my doctor's office had it and I'm not going through that.
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38 minutes ago, Choatecav said:
Grip on a 10mm is everything. I have large hands but still like to add Talon grip wraps on mine. They make a version that is like a very light sandpaper and it is wonderful for 10mm to lock that grip into your hand. No slippage whatsoever.
I don't believe even that would help me with the RIA. Getting a proper grip and reaching the trigger on that particular piece are not going to happen. I have a PT111 G2 as well as earlier Taurus pistols in .45. The heavy sandpaper like texture on the G2 would be great on the 45s. I'll find something that will work for me when I get to the point of being serious about it. I have some other wants that are ahead of the 10 for now. But then again, the G2 was an impulse buy. It is in great shape and the price I couldn't pass up.
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26 minutes ago, pop pop said:
Not trying to be argumentative or sarcastic here guys.
Quote (papa61) If I play the odds, odds are I will never encounter a situation where I need a firearm. If I do, odds are it will be within ten feet and over in three shots.
I had been going to the mailbox safely for 30 years prior to my incident. I never expected to run into 3 crack heads (????) while going to the mailbox that day pappa. But I did. If I had known I would have stayed in the house and stretched my knee.
I only had 7 on board in my 357 so I would have needed to put them where they would count against 3 attackers. Made me stop and think do I have enough on board???? Tell you the truth, that is why I purchased the Bodyguard 380 as weak side backup when we go RVing. One is really out there when stopping for fuel. Diesel is, most times, always on the ends of the pump islands and as far away as they can be from the office/stop and rob.
Oh I am not saying it won't happen to me or that it will happen within the average statistics. I'm saying we can't walk around with a heavy load of bang nor can we prep for every situation. I personally let myself get to close to a thug who pulled a knife. I was counting steps backward and put my hand on my pistol, I was at 2 1/2 when someone with a cool head called him back. At three the boy's day would have ended very badly. And at 63 with the physical issues I have I'm not letting any possible threat get that close.
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2 hours ago, gun sane said:
Move along, nothing to see here. If things didn't get heated over caliber it's all good. I'd be more worried if deerslayer didn't have the confidence to challenge the speed shooting.
Hey @deerslayer, your last name isn't Miculek is it?
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3 minutes ago, deerslayer said:
I wasn’t talking about your gun’s weight. I was talking about your six hits being quicker than my three hits. If we were closer, we could have a friendly wager and you could eat those words with ranch dressing.
oh THAT part. Yeah I already have a long drive to a range, Bartlett is out of the question. But I would enjoy the steak and beer you'd buy.
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From the wonderful, not liberal at all, press.
Washington's banned police guns could end up in the hands of civilians | KING 5 | king5.com
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6 minutes ago, deerslayer said:
Mmmmmm I doubt that.
even a Baby Browning 25 weighs more
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1 hour ago, deerslayer said:
That could be a valid question, but I’ve never carried a .45 sized 9mm. If I did, I would argue that the dropoff between .45 and 9mm effectiveness is negligible, but the dropoff between 9mm and .380 is significant. Capacity could be another reason.
.45 and 9mm (and many other handgun calibers) suck for manstopping, but they suck less than .380 and are no harder for me to carry. The big benefit of handguns is that they are convenient to carry in case there is unexpected trouble. If I knew I couldn’t avoid trouble, I would have my M&P 10 instead of a handgun.
If I knew I couldn't avoid trouble I would maneuver around it. I'm probably one of the few that has had a sidearm as my primary weapon. I was an APC driver in a scout platoon, no place to put an AR16 or even a grease gun, which we still had in the arsenal. That makes me comfortable saying maneuver around it. I think we agree somewhat. SO my entire point here is at what level are you comfortable? Do you wear body armor when you go out? Do you carry a trauma/first aid kit? Do you have a long gun available in your vehicle? If I play the odds, odds are I will never encounter a situation where I need a firearm. If I do, odds are it will be within ten feet and over in three shots. My pocket rocket weighs less than whatever you carry in 9mm. In fact it weighs less than a good fighting knife. So it always goes with me. At seven yards I can put six rounds on a ten inch plate before you can land three on the same target. I practice with it 99% of my range visits, I know it will hit where I point. (what sights)?
With all of that, if I were picking a 9mm why would I pick glock over hi point? (Neither thank you)
edit: forgot to add, with 7 yards three shot odds, .357 mag 125gr SJHP is undisputed top of the heap for one shot stops, ballistic gel tests and all other tests. Results vary of course with barrel length but all things equal, it wins. Nope, don't carry one of those either by personal choice.
1911 for carry option
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Trigger pull is the deciding factor. If you had two identical pistols which one would you choose to carry, the 10# gritty pull or the 6# smooth as glass? Floating firing pins have been in use since the 1880s. S&W used them, discontinued them, then brought them back. Remember, revolvers don't have a firing pin block as available in series 80 1911s. Modern revolvers have a transfer bar that does nothing to capture the "floating" firing pin. There is in my mind no drop safe pistol. The possibility of even a pistol with a firing pin block being discharged by any number of forces when dropped is always there. There is no such thing as an accidental discharge, it's negligent discharge or even unintended discharge. Those who are truly staunch in handling firearms do not break the rules which allow unintended consequences. Machines are dangerous, all of them, including the lever and fulcrum. Familiarity can make one comfortable and thereby lax.
Short version; guns are not drop safe, none of them.