papa61

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This is why there are no school systems adopting the teacher carry law. Our higher education system has good and bad points. Pushing socialist agendas and pacifist practices are positively on the bad list.

I carried an Old Timer lock back in a sheath on my belt in high school. I never had a question. I've said before, I read an article by an old gun writer who grew up during the depression, he stated he took his 22 rifle to school every day and hunted meat on the way home. He said the teacher put it in the closet with the rest of them. Americans have been duped into it's a gun problem. It's obvious it isn't.

20 plus years ago, two boys were suspended for having a Smoky Mountain Knife Works catalog in school. We have not stood up against these stupidities until here we are. The adage of putting a frog in a pot of water and turning the heat up slowly comes to mind. I hope the family gets a Johnny Cochran type and tears the school system a new one.

A co-worker's daughter goes to Oakland. There were also two unsubstantiated gun threats on the same day. My wife works at a middle school in Metro Nashville. I hear what goes on there and I am very concerned.

I used to carry a Jennings 22 fishing, I don't fish anymore but I wouldn't carry a 22 fishing anymore. 4 Stingers at 2 yards and the damned copperhead was still coming. Not very fast but it was coming. Long story short the hoe took care of it and all four slugs hit the mark. Shoot for the head of the snake guys. And carry a big enough pistol. One shot to the head would have stopped it but again, we fight like we train and all 4 rounds went center mass. I'm not afraid of snakes, except copperhead. And my two youngest boys and ex wife were there. The boys had stepped OVER the snake so it was fight time.

Since I don't use the belt clip I removed it. gives the thumb break strap more room. I have mine on the forward side to fit my pistol better. Glad you found what you needed.

I have been told a 2 liter will do for 22 subsonic. can't imagine how you'd aim the contraption.

For myself it isn't a mental hump. I have used red dots and don't care for them. Inside of the 7 yard line it's point and squeeze. Sights are not a thought. The way I was taught and practice does not rely on aligning sights in short range defensive use. I'm not advocating that for anyone, but it works for me, quite well. I don't use any optics unless I need magnification. Extreme astigmatism will cause issues for me at times with any optic. and as @1gewehr stated, electronics will fail. That may never be an issue but you fight the way you train. If that one in however many chance hits in a gunfight you're going to hesitate and we know what happens there. I have only recently picked up polymer framed pistols (other than my P32 which is over 30). I prefer heavier handguns for shooting. Recovery is just quicker and easier. All metal pistols are a pain to carry at times but as I have said, there's always a trade off. all that to say if we are going to lighter poly frame cut slide pistols for carry comfort, why add ounces back into the holster? Add to all of the cost involved choosing something that fits an optic you're comfy with and finding a comfy holster. It all adds time and expense that I don't want or need.

I encourage everyone to pick what they are comfortable with and practice, practice, practice then practice some more. But for the cost of a new pistol and optic I could shoot what I have enough to rival Jelly Bryce.

I'm not knockin' 'em. but I want everyone to know when I touch one off. LOL. Guess it would depend on the purpose.

I wouldn't use the AceCase for carry. I tried it and it just did not work for me. but they are good for this type of use. Especially with the mag pouch. Their fitment chart is pretty wide. Maybe contact them. Let us know how it comes out.

As bad as I hate saying so, try Walmart. They used to carry uncle Mikes's like you're asking about. If that doesn't work, try ACE CASE direct. I have one of these that's over 20 years old and still works as intended. It's on my bump in the night go belt. Extra Mag Holsters (Various Sizes) Nylon | Ace Case Manufacturing, LLC

I've not seen his work in person But I did see some of his stuff in magazine back in the day. My HS friend spoke highly of him as a person so I believe it. I've always been in awe of those who take one and rebarrel, change from 6 to five shot or any of the things he does. I would LOVE to do what he does but I'm way past the point of getting a return on the investment. In the end, if I'm in the market for a top end revolver, I know where to go hands down.

One of our members posted what his investment was for his Cali shop. Cost would dissuade most. It's a long learning curve also. Mr Bowen is to my understanding a true smith who could build a firearm from scratch.