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On 1/29/2022 at 10:45 AM, pop pop said:
Dealing with the mentally ill is not an easy thing to do.
Short of being a shrink, it's damn near impossible for the layman, IMO.
I remember the stink raised by the usual suspects when a crazy black female approached a Metro cop with a steak knife in her hand & the cop was sitting in his car seat. The poor cop ended up shooting her because she wouldn't stop when he told her to. I think I remember the jackass DA took it to a grand jury, which correctly failed to indict him.
I remember when the State closed the old Central State facility on Murfreesboro Rd in Nashville. There was a rash of incidents when those poor folks got turned out on their own.
Seems like the court case that turned them loose stated that just because they were bat#### crazy didn't mean the state could hold them involuntarily. The person had to be a threat to either themselves or the public. The old Deberry Institute on Antioch Pike housed the criminally insane. I think it too got closed down but I don't know for sure. I used to live about a mile from that one.
I sound like a broken record here, but some sort of netting device might be the easiest thing to neutralize a crazy. It keeps them from striking out at the cops, they can't swing their arms, etc. I've been told when a crazy person is having an episode, they become crazy strong as well. It's similar to the druggie's version of "excited delirium", which negates the use of tasers.
I also note all those jackasses who abuse the cops are NEVER the ones volunteering to go deal with these crazy people either. Wonder why that is?????
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Were these smaller than the AMT .45acp? I think those were only 3rd mags?
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Possible USP? Certainly H&K w/o doubt. Full size USP 9mm's were 15rd mags, IIRC? They had both finger rest base plates & flat ones as well.
I don't think it looks like a VP9 mag but my only ones are the SK & VP9L models. 13rd & 20rd mags, so no 15rd ones.
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8 hours ago, bersaguy said:
With all the police officers being killed these days, being shot in what should be a routine traffic stop that turns deadly for an officer. I can't find fault with officers being overly cautious for anything that seems out of the ordinary and you have to admit this was not ordinary.
If they were "acting cautious", why weren't they behind cover, i.e. their cars? Standing right out in the open like that is not MY idea of "cautious". YMMV.
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9 hours ago, Alleycat72 said:
Just watch the number of less than lethal wepons use against this guy
Ehhhh, the bean bags weren't too potent, IMO. The water cannon looked fun though. LOL! Water pressure isn't something one can just blow off. (Pardon my pun) I've fooled around with a 2" hose off of a fire hydrant. I saw it lift a guy right off the ground as he tried to hold onto the squirting end.
No one asked me, but I still think a net would work nicely on anyone holding something less than a firearm of some sort.
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10 hours ago, Grunt67 said:
Traffic was stopped. He'd have to wait a while to get run over. Reporters need to stick to reporting, rather than try to tell what a mentally ill man was thinking.
I think they were talking about before the THP officer got there.
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For those whom may not know, Nordic Components makes mag tube extensions for these. They start at a +2 & go up to something like a +8. I have a +4 on my 1187 Police for 3 Gun matches (that I can no longer afford to shoot in).
Sorry for the intrusion, OP.
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16 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:
I love how the reports have gotten walked back because reporters got ahead of themselves and reported a story without confirmation.
Tom, Sr says no retirement. So who knows?
USSC Justice Breyer was p.o.'d when his retirement got leaked out but he still retired.
Tom, Jr hasn't refuted it yet, has he?
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31 minutes ago, Whisper said:
This looks to me like a negotiating ploy -- Brady's people leaking this to put pressure on the Bucs for something.
LOL! No.
Brady has taken a huge pay cut to play there so they'd have the $$$ to get better players. Not to mention his wife has more $$$ than he does, which is saying something.
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I almost bought one of these when they came out. Beautiful gun & tastefully engraved & no bling, IMO . Wished I'd had bought it then.
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1 hour ago, Moped said:
This seems to be the best idea, but you are right about them not working in the hollars.
Which is why I went to the chief of my local search & rescue crew. Polk Co is nothing but mountains & hollers. LOL! But the chief said his handheld can communicate from anywhere in the county. This is using the relay up on the mountain, of course.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the national parks nor forests allow either cell towers or radio towers on the property? It's for that reason I want the handheld HAM radio in order to call for help. About 80% of the land area of Polk County is now part of the Cherokee National Forest, according to Wikipedia. So that greatly limits the availability of cell phone towers & so forth.
I have no clue about the area around Knoxville & so forth. I don't think they're part of the Cherokee Nat Forest there & it's further east from there. I would think there could be cell towers around there pretty easily but I honestly have no idea about that. I do know they can put a cell tower on someone's property w/o the owner's blessing, eminent domain allows that.
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3 hours ago, DL126 said:
Learn to program them and you can have UHF/VHF/DMR all in the same units.
Cheaper units w/o DMR.
Use CHIRP for programming on these.Except for the addition of DMR programming in the Anytone units, I have the same programming profiles in all radios. (Half dozen or so)
Profile includes GMRS, MURS, FRS, HAM Simplex, all weather frequencies, and local HAM repeaters.Much of that may as well be in chinese for someone like me who doesn't know the meaning of those acronyms.
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20 hours ago, myg30 said:
Again NO cell service signal but still connects to 911?
He's wholly incorrect about that. A phone can not have a PROVIDER (AT&T, Verizon, etc) & still can call 9-1-1. But a phone HAS to have a signal to get out. I experienced this as recently as yesterday, up in back hills of my county.
A sat phone is a different matter entirely, as I'm sure you know.
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9 hours ago, Grayfox54 said:
I'm no expert, but were the officers too far away for a taser?
Experts are saying with his winter coat on, they had no where for the prongs to get hold of.
Another report says he was walking out into traffic, trying to get run over. So yes, he was looking for the cops to end his misery. Sadly, it went as he wanted it to.
I just hope he's at peace somehow now.
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11 hours ago, chances R said:
Bad guy controlled the response. I'm glad all officers got to go home. The law breakers need to obey the officers' commands in just about all of these shootings.
The guy was neither "bad" nor a "law breaker." He was mentally unbalanced, a huge, huge difference. Those types of people see aberrant behavior as being normal or correct, something normal folks (including me) just can't comprehend. I have a cousin whom is strongly bi-polar, his behavior is extremely odd a lot of times. Thankfully, he's not violent.
People whom expect lay people to know how to deal with mentally ill people are wholly wrong. It's virtually impossible to do that.
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18 hours ago, AuEagle said:
It's a real shame that less lethal force couldn't have been used.
It could have, it just wasn't for some odd reason.
This would've been a perfect place for one of those devices that shoot a net over someone. I've seen them in police supply magazines but I honestly have no clue about how well they work.
Hell, even a football gang tackle of everyone at once would've worked. However, I wouldn't have wanted to be the one getting stabbed doing that.
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18 hours ago, Sunfish said:
Funny how family's kick people to the curb until something happens to them.
Ever lived with a truly mentally unbalanced person? They make the lives of everyone around them pure hell.
Just because someone gets kicked out of a house doesn't mean the family quits caring for them. The family has to put the health of the family ahead of a single individual, especially when there's kids involved.
Your comment was in extremely poor taste, IMO.
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2 hours ago, Garufa said:
Mec-Gar makes excellent 5900 series magazines in 15 and 17 (flush fit) round capacities but they seem to be out of stock everywhere.
Yeah, I looked hard for those but struck out.
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6 hours ago, gregintenn said:
I’m not sure why mentally ill is freely roaming around in public.
Because courts ruled against forced institutionizing them in the late 1970s. As long as they're not endangering anyone, they're GTG.
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He had a helluva run.
Wonder if Aaron Rogers will now go there?????
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15 minutes ago, gregintenn said:
A good neighbor is a blessing. A bad one is a curse.
Truer words never spoken. Good fences make good neighbors too.
I've been VERY lucky in my life as all my neighbors were neutral at worst, some were excellent. None were jackasses, thank goodness.
This guy's wife says he's bi-polar, which explains a lot, IMO.
I think I still will root for the doggies over the guy & the cops.
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38 minutes ago, gregintenn said:
This confounded me as well.
Follow the money, always follow the money.
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Veteran officer concerned with how police handled situation leading to I-65 shooting
Quote“To have that many officers present in uniform and with the weapons drawn, that’s more intimidation than anything else, especially when you’re talking about a person having a mental episode,” Collins said.
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5 minutes ago, OLDNEWBIE said:
As for wife or GF....she was afraid of him, he tried to kill her. Suddenly she has the NAACP woman with her in front of cameras?
Am I missing something? Is the guy black?
No, the dead guy was as white as white can be. Crazy though.
The reason the widow was with the NAACP is simple: $$$$$$$$$
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I-65 Shooting
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Who paid for his funeral? That's possibly $10K right there.
Who's paying the bills? Did the guy work? I don't know if he did or the widow worked to support the family. If he worked, now what? Does she go on food stamps now? Who buys the kids' clothes now?
What widow wouldn't listen if some lawyer told her, "Hey, I can get you some $$$ to help with your bills." She'd be crazy not to at least listen, IMO. Doesn't mean she'll get a penny either.
Spend some time in her shoes before you condemn her.