JohnSutton1980
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40.00 for sale!
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Bump still available
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I sure wish you were closer to me than California!!! Being on one side of the state, it seems like all the cool stuff is on the other side of the planet!! My M&P 45 compact is perfectly sized!! I live it just a tad expensive to play around shooting!!
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3 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:
You’re making it way more complicated than is necessary.
That said, ensure the shop is willing to deal with it as the rules for them have changed on that recently and made it a big enough pain in the ass that many ain’t touching 80% stuff.
I don’t care how complicated it gets. I just want to be legal. I try not to play fast and loose with laws. My 6 hours in the drunk tank in Vegas 20 year ago was my scared straight!
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1 hour ago, mike_f said:
Wouldn't you also have to mark it with your information (Name, City, State) since if you completed it, you're the manufacturer? Just putting a number on it would imply that Polymer80 (or whomever's info is on the 80% receiver/frame) was the manufacturer when the thing they sold isn't a firearm.
I’m not 100% sure on that. I will “hope” the guys at the shop will be in the know as far as doing everything by the book.
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11 hours ago, Garufa said:
Here’s a thought. Don’t buy someone else’s unserialized, homemade gun. If you want to make one of your own plan on keeping it.
Problem solved.
Genius!!!
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1 hour ago, Smith said:
It's really not that grey. You can sell anything you own. You can't build with the intent to sell (manufacture) without a serial number.
If the ATF is after you for an 80% build that was in a private sell, you've got a whole world of other problems. The 80% would be the least of your issues.
I agree with your thought. Although a lie to law enforcement about a “gun” is probably frowned upon. The sum I have come to, although may seem ignorant, will be to have the gun serialized and do a true transfer at a FFL. I will find all of the “dumbass” government infringements so I know fact wise I won’t become a criminal whose constitutional right is taken by a 1960s law. To my knowledge that is when the government decided to not allow felons to have guns. In the constitution it did not say”if you have a felony, you can bear arms” but that is my real deal extreme view on the 2nd amendment. I think EVERYONE should be allowed to have a gun. That way no Karen gets too full of him or herself and we all learn to respect each other again.
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3 minutes ago, DJTC45 said:
This why I stay away from these types of firearms. I'm not knocking you for having it, but the ATF "Rulings" are so misleading that it's not worth it to me. Just my thoughts on this subject. Good luck in getting it all figured out.
I thought this same way for a long time about these!! I live by the KISS formula and it had kept me from jails, hospitals and morgues. So far anyway! I then found a completed serialized version at a shop in Knoxville. I really liked the grip angle on them. The P80 anyway. I then bought a few as I had a ton of spare Glock parts around and figured I would make me a few. I’m perfectly satisfied with how everything turned out. I know the transfer of these are subjective. I thought about buying a trusted buddies p80 but the “legal” info is as clear as muddy water.
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18 hours ago, juliangunney said:
PSA DAGGER COMPLETE DOCTOR CUT SLIDE ASSEMBLY WITH EXTREME CARRY CUT & AMERIGLO LOWER 1/3 CO-WITNESS SIGHTS, SNIPER GREEN
That's a sharp little pistol! I'm very new to the whole Glock clone thing. Do you know if this is based off the gen3 Glock?
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17 minutes ago, Spots said:
Ive got a 507K that I bought from @willki being mounted on a G34 setup now. same reticle but no solar and smaller foot print. The Holosun green circle dot is my favorite reticle in a pistol dot, I can pick them up fast and make solid hits especially inside 25 yards.
I just purchased a Hellcat RDP from a sketchy guy! BUT!!!! I believe it has a quality RDS on it. I put just a few rounds through it this past weekend and kept doing the same thing as before which is being distracted by it. I hope to get out this weekend and practice with it to try and get comfortable with one If I can get over myself then I mat have to decide which to get. If not hopefully the wife can learn with one. I'm hard headed some so I will try and try a few more times to see what happens. PS....I know where and how NOT to get one!!!!
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4 hours ago, Spots said:
Ill take it. PM inbound
I was gonna tell you about this one. Seems to be a really fair deal and the "reviews" are really good on this sight!
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Wow!!! Nice!
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2 minutes ago, Darrell said:
What really irks me about this conversation is that the rules are, as GreyFox54 put it, "fuzzy". I think that the vast majority of gun owners want to stay 100% within the law, but if the law and rules aren't clear it becomes easy to inadvertently find oneself on the wrong side of the question. The feds know that 80% kits are available and popular, and they would be doing all of us a favor if they'd just clearly and simply state the rules. And maybe monkeys will fly out their butts, too.
That would be way too easy!!!
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6 minutes ago, scatman said:
1) I'm not a manufacturer.
2) This is a privately made firearm.
3) The rule still does not prevent an unlicensed individual from making a non serialized PMF for their own use.
If I were to take this as it is now in to a gunsmith for a repair then he would be required to serialize it under the new regulations, but it is not illegal for me to have, even if I didn't have the serial number on my barrel.
I’m a tard typer and you beat me to it! Statements like the one we are replying to is how “truth” becomes muddled. By design perhaps!
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If a person makes one or 2 of his own guns, that does not meet the criteria or definition of a manufacturer “generally”. Which means depends on the attitude of that particular ATF agent. That is just based off of 10 minutes of “internet research” and NOT real world experience. I have only made 1 80% and it was for my own use. I strongly believe if you make more than 1 for a profit then it makes sense to be called a manufacturer.
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And yet ANOTHER opinion. Wow!!! Though throw the context of a manufacturer I completely agree. If a normal everyday person makes his own gun. I’m not so sure it is black and white as some would believe.
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Ok now so understand!!! Make sense to me! I was thinking you removed parts from a Glock and put them on a p80 while using the Glock serial number! That may be legal I have no idea! But I always go by my gut and it seemed no so legit. But now I understand your process!
15 minutes ago, scatman said:I do not have two complete firearms with the same number. I have overtime replaced my lower frame with a p80 lower, and then I got an aftermarket slide. My original lower frame is damaged beyond repair but still sitting in the safe next to my slide.
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Yeah like most opinions I have heard so many “options” or he said this, my guys says this. Just wanted to ponder this question to fellow shooters in our great state of Tennessee. Odd that you hear so many different avenues. I would NOT be comfortable with a barrel from another gun with its serial number as the only identifying marks. Seems to me you would have at least 2 guns with the same serial number that way.
I trust the source so I’m good with the purchase just wanted to check and what others were or are doing with similar situations.
I myself have put together a P80 and really fell in love with it. But my Glock 32 is still my EDC because of comfort. -
I live in East Tennessee. I live in Greenback to be exact but travel for work from Bristol to Chattanooga for work but mainly based in Knoxville.
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Damn I’m slow…..
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I bout ran off the road when I seen free ammo!!!
Not that I check TGO while driving or anything.
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Ok fellers. I’m basically a newborn when it comes to the p80/80% stuff. I wanted to buy one from a trusted source. The only thing that has me leery is he has never installed a serial number. I know I could put one on there and claim to have made it myself but does anyone know the correct way to purchase a used p80 or an 80% build? Any ideas or advice? I am not asking for legal advice just opinions.
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PM replied. Still available.
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AlienGear shapeshift Glock 19/23/32 Holster kit
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