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  1. 25 minutes ago, 1madss said:

    Unless you shooting .410 is a requirement you would most likely be better served with a Model 25.

    Model 25's are hard to come by at reasonable prices and are a much heavier gun. If you go to gunbroker you can look for some S&w 325pd. But if weight is not a factor Ruger makes a 45lc/45acp Redhawk now.

  2. You almost have to try them both for yourself. It really can be a matter of personal preference. I always thought the G19, or other compact Glocks, were the cat's meow. But when I went to a department with Glock 22's I actually found that I like the fullsize frame better. The 22 is the exact same dimension as the 17 but in 40s&w. I liked the fullsize for a lot more than capacity. The balance, finger grooves, and the slide length for malfunction clearing all outweighed having to conceal it.

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  3. It is kind of a jack of all trades, but a master of none for sure. I have researched them a lot. As far as scandium S&W's go, they are priced reasonably well. The black models appear to all have a Big Dot Night Sight, but the bright stainless does not. I can't think of a more versatile in caliber handgun in production. I read a professional review the 45GAP rounds were the most accurate of all the factory ammo tested. They will not close with 45 Auto Rim cartridges and are not intended to shoot anything over standard pressure. I wouldn't run 45 Supers but I would think 45acp plus p would be fine as it is about the same as some standard 45 Colts. Ruger only loads are completely out of the question. The free-bore of the long cylinder does cause some velocity loss, but I remember reading that it wasn't near as much as I would have thought. 

     

    I have shot a judge, but not a governor, and find the shotshells really penetrate poorly; even the specialty handgun rounds. The shotshells also leave you feeling really dirty after shooting. I do like the judge with 45 Colt rounds though.

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  4. 4 hours ago, peejman said:

    You're doing it wrong....   After you close the deal with the saleman, ask to talk to someone in marketing to discuss your advertising rate.  They'll be really confused when you put a contract on their desk and say "if you could initial here next to the rate and sign here, that'd be great." :)

    When my wife was an F&I person at a car dealership she had a lender that did third party leases. She rarely used them, but what was interesting was they required, in contract, that the lender's license plate remain on the front unless law required a registered plates on the leased vehicle. I never heard of them doing anything if the plate was removed, but it was stupid anyway. Unless you worked in car sales you didn't know what the bank even was. It was Fifth Third, and I just recently read of them doing a considerable downsizing.

  5. 17 minutes ago, nightrunner said:

    If it's a podcast, I'm interested. Doesn't have to be gun related. 

    They are two guys, Eric and Gary, who are extremely smart conservatives. 

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  6. All the officers that I have talked with have a fairly positive experience with the P320. A trusted source told me the guy who shot the demo gun after him had several failures of FTF, FTE, and failure to lock the slide back. It was determined he did not have a strong grip and also others have experienced issues with limp wristing. The most disturbing failure was a failure to reset and the rep couldn't fix it. 

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  7. Sadly, the old 22's and 23's have to be destroyed per federal law and can't be traded. There is a way around it, but it's not easy. The federal agency I work for has destroyed hundreds of nice duty weapons.

    Oh, I also heard from other feds that the p320 was wanted and they anticipated getting them. However, they just weren't all that reliable when it came down to it. Funny since they went with a gun that wasn't in production yet and proved problematic once delivered.

  8. Tercel89, I understand that. It's hard for me to say which gen Glock I prefer. The dual recoil spring design was essentially borrowed from the baby Glock platforms, and has pretty much been proven to work. I must say though, I don't really see the fascination with the gen 2's that everyone else has. I will agree that the gen3 finger grooves fit almost no one, but I am not a fan of the front strap cutout. My grandfather's gen 2 17 may be my least favorite Glock next to a really, really high round count gen2 23.

    I actually find it comical that the 17m is having issues. It is exactly what was asked for by the FBI. Glock provided a near flawless design for the FBI with the gen 3 22's and 23's. But no, the FBI wanted xyz, zyx, yxz, yzx. They specify exactly what was already on the market by another manufacturer then wanted Glock to duplicate it.

  9. 1 hour ago, graycrait said:

     The short barrel versions certainly aren't target guns and the .357 out of a short barrel is pretty inefficient. 

    I would not hardly call .357 in any length barrel inefficient. I believe one of the most exaggerated facts is that of the .357 magnum loosing energy in a short barrel. I have a 1.87" barrel scandium S&W that is still launching the standard 158 gr magnums over 1100fps. That same 158 gr magnum has always produced 1250fps in a 4" revolver. Remember, the same 158 gr 38 spl load, standard pressure, is right at 800fps which is often not enough velocity to expand.

     

    There are a few light 357 magnum loads on the market that I prefer for the j frames. One is the almost non-existent 135 gr Gold Dot. And the other is the readily available 125 gr Golden Sabre. I get a little less than 1000 fps out of a 360 with the Golden Sabre and can stand to shoot more than I can afford. Both of these mimic 9mm performance. So a 2" bbl revolver will be the equivalent of a 3" 9mm auto. My favorite 357 is a pre-lock 3" model 60. I haven't chronographed the Golden Sabres but I think they are about 1100 in the 3" and standard 158 gr magnums are probably 1200 fps. image_zps83lybhqh.jpeg

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  10. I will take a Smith any day over a Ruger. The Smith will generally have an overall better fit and finish. I am not saying the Ruger is garbage, but they generally have stiffer triggers and often leave the factory with burs or slight imperfections. 

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  11. 11 hours ago, vujade said:

    Got it.  Handguns are where that extra layer of reporting occurs; for lowers - buying (4) is just like buying (2) or (1)... 

    Trying to understand laws my head hurt.  

    That may depend on the lower. Most lowers are transferred as a receiver which means it could also be a handgun.

  12. The ffl will fill out the form, but if the receiver is transferred as multi caliber and as a receiver the form will have to be done. I have heard how many handguns or semi-auto rifles over .223 you can have on one 4473, but I don't  remember how many. I think is like 15 or some odd number.

  13. 5 minutes ago, Gotthegoods said:

    I heard, but have not verified, workers on the West Coast have been requesting less hours to keep their $15/hour wages from adversely impacting .gov benefits and entitlements.

    Hell, let's just print more money

     

    No, they want the $15 an hour but are immediately requesting their hours to be cut back.

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  14. Everyone agrees on the requirement of a good belt. The holster thing I want to tell my experience. Like everyone else I have tried dozens of holsters of just about every type and have determined OWB really works the best for me. If it is a situation where OWB is not going to work I resort to a smaller gun in the pocket.

    When it comes to carrying a Glock I found my absolute favorite holster is about the cheapest holster you can buy. The Glock Sport Combat holster runs about $12 and holds the weapon closer to your body than any others I have tried.   14F9B48B-E7CC-4D22-AAE4-61220E22B10B-337

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  15. No, you can posses that firearm on your own property as long as you are not a felon or have been convicted of domestic violence. Don't point it at anyone. If it is a handgun keep it holstered and if it is s long gun keep the muzzle pointed down. Please don't push the envelop by standing outside with an Ar-15 slung across your chest, lol.

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