Fallguy

That's pretty much it. Just to expand on the non-HCP a bit... the weapon can not be "concealed on or about" you and the ammunition can not be "in the immediate vicinity of the person or weapon"

That's assuming they revoked it...they could just suspend it. To me it seems 39-17-1352(a)(6) was more to address any false information given or something done wrong in the permit process as §§ 39-17-1351 -- 39-17-1360 were all created as part of the HCP law in 1996. Other than 39-17-1359 all other off-limits places are earlier in the part 13. But as we've seen, what the legislature intendes and what ends up happening aren't always the same. :-\

Hmmmm Good point. The $500 fine is the worst the court can do to you, but it does appear the Dept of Safety could suspend or revoke your permit. Well..in fact the language says shall.

Ummmm....Guys.....Post 4 would seem to indicate he has already been and returned.

Officers should already be a bit suspicious of everyone, but that doesn't mean they have to treat everyone like a suspect. Although I didn't notify the last time I got stopped, if I thought for some reason he was going to search me or some other way find the weapon I would have told him because I agree him "discovering" the weapon is not good. However if he runs my DL and sees that I have HCP (which I think he did run my DL) it doesn't mean I am armed necessarly. If he ask I will answer honestly. Officers don't need to get cranky and draw their weapon because a legally armed person is acting within the law. If they want to get cranky and/or do something about it, they should lobby to get the law changed to must notify. If that is the law I would comply. But until then...in certain situations at least, I see now reason to introduce and issue into the situation that otherwise may not come up.

I think one reason the sign may say possible imprisonment is because the orginal bill did call for jail time for certain violations. Maybe one reason they left it in, was "just in case" there was another violation besides 39-17-1359? But as long as there is the section of the law says $500 fine only....it doesn't bother me what the sign says, as long as it has to have specific wording. Maybe with the possible imprisonment language will keep some business owners from posting thinking they don't want to send anyone to jail.

Yep...in fact you could carry ANYWHERE that serves alcohol as long as they are not posted (and you're not consuming)....and there will not be any question what a "proper posting" is either.

Well he is everything they are supposed to do per the law...

I think there is more checks than just that. One think I know they also do is send a copy of your application to the sheriff of your county of residence to see if he knows of any false statements you may have made or other reason you shouldn't have one. He has 30 days to respond to it. So factor in a few days ahead of time before he gets it and a few days after 30 days for them to wait and see if he has returned it...and that is some of your time.

I don't think it is the state, but each local department will be the ones conducting the sales. Seen in the new where the gun that was used in the pentagon shooting (same day as the bill was signed) was sold by either Memphis PD or Shelby Co SD? http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/newsworthy-reports/36873-memphis-police-shelby-sheriffs-office-sold-guns-used-pentagon-shooting.html Of course some departments were already selling confiscated firearms, it's just now that they have to if the firearm is legal and funcitional and they don't keep it for law enforcement purposes.

You got it ...or at least it's not a very good one.

Nice!!! As far as posting the pic, you can just copy and paste it or use the insert image button then paste the url of the pic.

In those three times have you ever come from as far away as Michigan? Even if someone didn't need a weapon (since when has a known need been a reason to carry) at the event what about the hundred of miles to and from? Think there is even the slightest chance something could come up on the trip?

That has been a topic of debate... But if you have to go through the building to get to the deck... Just keep your fingers crossed for HB3125 to pass

Not sure why there is such a difference, but I've heard of some taking up to 7 months, others just a few weeks.

From Security - Bonnaroo - Information Also What NOT to Bring - Bonnaroo - Information

To renew all you have to do is fill out the application and pay your $50 then wait. No fingerprints again.

Actually the law only prevents carry "within the confines of a building" open to the public that serves alcohol for onsite consumption. That being said, although I've never been, I imagine, as someone else said, there is a search and they can prohibit any weapons or items they choose. To others...have you thought that maybe he isn't as worried about carry at the event as the hundred of miles to get here, then what to do about it once he arrives?

Didn't think Sheriffs had done the fingerprints for HCP for a long time now. Seems most people got to a UPS Store

They weren't talking about the $500 fine for a violation of 39-17-1359, they were talking about convictions of carry where alcohol is served. http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/106/Fiscal/SB3012.pdf But I grant either way I think it is an exaggeration. But....again that is based on the bill as first presented which has changed drastically as it relates to this.

Yeah, but the fiscal note you can see on the web page is on the original bill which is not what is moving forward, it the amendment that rewrites the bill that is moving forward. If I can ever get a copy revised amendment from someone I'll post it like last time.

Well the status page shows that it has been sent to the Finance Ways and Means committee, but still no text of the amendment.

Not sure, but guess there is some fiscal note to it. Hopefully we can see that when it posted to the state's website. Now that it has been voted on, it should be on the bill's status page when it is updated.

Yes, except that it doesn't affect any local ordnance in place prior to April 1986.

Quick check in while stuff is simmering... I think you're right in that those with a HCP will still be able to carry and those without won't be able to carry an Army/Navy pistol in their hand. If I'm reading it correctly...the ordnance was already amended once in 1987, so post 1986. If so that would seem to answer the question about whether you can modify existing pre-1986 ordnances and them still be valid...assuming this ordnance has always been valid.