Fallguy

Yes Been discussed a time or two before.. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/handgun-carry-self-defense/8209-carry-tva-lake.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/handgun-carry-self-defense/22610-carry-regulations-lake.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/handgun-carry-self-defense/19001-carrying-while-canoeing.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/handgun-carry-self-defense/8247-carry-tennessee-river.html

One of the things I like about it is now if/when I ever ride to Stugis I can pick a southern route where I won't have to disarm along the way.

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Once he touched his gun, he was no longer covered by the law I have cited. So that is why it doesn't directly address the issue we are discussing now. However he claimed self-defense and the original trial judge agreed and dismissed the charged based on 39-17-1322. However the state appealed saying the trial judge could not determine it was self-defense at a pre-trial hearing. The appellate court agreed and submitted the case back for trial. He later was convicted, not sure of what now. Main reason is the guy with gun said in the trial he just retrieved the handgun and never actually displayed it or used in self-defense. The trial judge actually said had he used it or displayed it in self-defense he probably would not have been guilty. But this case has more to do with 39-17-1322 and not so much 39-17-1309.

Yep...there pretty good... Try to help them when I can....got them to reverse their statement about WMAs in TN by linking to the new public chapter and TWRA page.

Not to me.. All it really seems to be changing is the fact you can leave it in any private vehicle and not just one operated (not necessarily currently operating) by you. It also adds it as an exception instead of saying "it is not an offense".

Found the bill Tennessee General Assembly Legislation With a little luck this will be clearly legal next year.

FWIW I can not find a case on the TN Courts website that specifically deals with this. Also I think there was a bill introduced to clarify this, but I believe Rep West was the sponsor and it was one of the bills delayed because of his health. A simple solution to this, parks, employer's parking lots and so on, would be to simply make the possession of weapon in your car the same as being in your home.

First I'm not sure how anyone would ever know there was a handgun in my vehicle in the first place. But if somehow it was discovered and I was charged (which is not a certainty), I would not plead guilty to anything.

Huh, If you are at school for the ball game, to see your child's teacher or the like, how are you trespassing? Resiting arrest by the fact there is a weapon in your vehicle? If the gun is seized, you may have to prove it is yours to get it back, but I grant the gun being in your vehicle, it's yours whether it really is or not. Wrong fuel for this fire.....

As long as the officer informed the principal, or if he was unvailable, someone in the office, he was 100% legal.

How can they prove who the gun belongs to? Remember, there is no firearms registration in TN. So what other charge could there be?

As has been discussed several times in other threads, that sign is still required by the liquor laws. ...and it still applies to anyone that doesn't have a HCP that carries in a place where alcohol is served for onsite consumption.

The law that says it is ok for you to remained armed (even on your person) while dropping off or picking up students is a different one, it is 39-17-1310. But let me ask you this, if a handgun is left in a vehicle, but no one is in it (operating it) who could be charged with possession of the handgun then?

The AG says it is when the park is being used for a school activity. ...and again he cites the law that deals with school 39-17-1309© not the park law 39-17-1311 when he says the handgun can be secure in the vehicle.

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I did...the AG was talking about if you were at a park where a school event was taking place, that you could leave your handgun in your vehicle. The entire opinion is basically saying that a public park being used for a school activity becomes the same as being school property. Then he cites 39-17-1309© as what would allow a HCP holder to secure their handgun in their vehicle. You don't have to be literally driving the vehicle to be operating it or considered the operator. But I'm not telling anyone what to do, however I will say I have left my handgun secure in my vehicle on school property many times and will continue to do so and I don't fear any prosecution.

Many think you shouldn't ever be made in the first place if you are concealing properly, however if you are made, many more think there is no reason to inform the property owner of the correct law. No reason to make it a criminal act if someone carries (on purpose or by accident) in the future. I admit a while back I used to think it would be better to inform a place on how to post a proper sign, but over the years I have modified that way of thinking. However if a place has made a public issue their desire to ban firearms, then Yes, it may need to be informed of the proper way to do it, but in general, I'd say No.

NRA-ILA :: Nebraska Attorney General Drafts Concealed Carry Recognition List http://www.ago.ne.gov/media/Recognition_of_State_Concealed_Handgun_Permits_2.pdf