Fallguy

Yeah...I bet if all dogs were allowed or disallowed in state parks they would have found the money for new signs....but let it be firearms and it's a good way for some to kill the bill...so we are allowed to carry but there are still signs that say no firearms.... Hopefully new signs will be required at state parks (for one reason or another) over the years (hopefully not too many) and they can leave "No Firearms" off of them.

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Good info to have, but the trouble with a subjective law/definition like this is...each officer and/or judge can have a different opinion. All you can do is the best you can to comply as you understand the law to be. Sounds like worst case scenario for you though is a warning.... Have a good trip.

Here is FL Law... 790.001(2) “Concealed firearm” means any firearm, as defined in subsection (6), which is carried on or about a person in such a manner as to conceal the firearm from the ordinary sight of another person.

As far as OC you are correct. As far as the beach goes....I wouldn't think it is a park just because it is beach, unless it is at a park. Might want to check these two pages... http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/alabama.pdf http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/florida.pdf

This is pretty much how I feel. I may be wrong, but personally I don't think most "improperly" posted places are trying to pacify the sheep and allow us to carry, as some think. I just think they don't know the law. As far as property rights...I have the right/bought privillage to carry my handgun anywhere I choose that it is lawful to do so. If a property owner doesn't wish me to carry on his property, he has a lawfuly binding way of notifing me of his wishes.

Here is a list of states that issue non-resident permits and how to get them. Remember CO, MI, SC, FL, NH and ME do not honor non-resident permits and more than likely you will have to have a permit from the state you reside in to carry in that state.

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That was nice of them wasn't it?

The law on this has recently changed, somewhat. The Governor signed HB0799/SB0836 yesterday. The orginal bill would have made it clear that it was only unlawful only if it was "with the intent of hunting deer". However Seneate Amendment 1 passed on 4-11-2011 which rewrote the bill. So what passed still makes it illegal to cast a light on deer "in an apparent attempt or intent to locate deer by the use of such light", but makes an exception if you are on your own land or have permission from the land owner...but even then you still can't do it form a public road.

I guese these are things to consider...but I can't help but to wonder. But....... Why just because you are armed and prepared would you be more liable if a Self-Defense situation arose? There is already such a thing as an Armed Private Security Guard that requires a license from the state...this isn't that. If you are carrying a firearm you are "going armed" having a HCP is a defense to that. Sometimes it seems we even buy into the sheeple's idea that because we are armed we are looking for trouble, since some think we must walk around on eggshells.

The map in the OP is good if you have a permit from more than one state and want to see where the other permit is honored. But we have a map on this forum that shows where TN permits are honored. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/firearms-law-faq/13408-reference-material-some-basic-questions.html

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Thanks, but what I was really looking for is the old CP would not only show any subscribed threads with new post in them, but all the sub-forums I'm subscribed to. I can click My Post > My threads to see all the threads I'm subscribed to (new post or not). But not the sub-forums. No big deal, was just used to going to the CP and seeing which sub-forums I was subscribed to had new threads.

I was gone for a little so I may have missed any announcement or upgrade about this but, what happened to the link for the User CP or User Control Panel?

Must be something going on. Has worked for me in the past, but I get the same screen as in the OP now.

I've had just one too many thing stolen from me to just "let" someone steal my car or any other piece of property. The law allows me to use force (not deadly) to protect my property and I will. I will also be armed and if a self-defense situation arises then so be it. Since when do we have to hunker down in our homes and not protect it or ourselves? If I end up in jail because of this, so be it. 911 is not a magic number (I dispatched for them for many years) just because you dial it, it doesn't make everything instantly better. The BG doesn't just disappear into thin air. As to your question...If I lived in TX (since it is legal to used deadly force for the protection of property there) and if it was the only way to keep my property from being stolen....Yes. If when confronted they drop it and run....I'll watch them run.

Thanks for sharing this story. Glad it turned out well (overall) for him. One reason I pretty much carry everywhere I can (legally) and on my person 99.9% of the time. That way I don't have to remember I'm armed (I already know I am) if I go somewhere or where it is if I have to disarm.

Thank your for your post BlackHawk93. Also thank you to any and all defended me. I have tried to stay away so as to fan anything anymore myself.

I can't really argue with any of that.....

No...why would you even ask? See below. The forum it was first posted in was the Carry Prohibited Locations which is susposed to be a database to search posted loactions and only the OP or a Mod can make additional post to the thread. So I moved it hear....just so happens I was the first person to post after I moved it...so imagine that....

I'm not sure if you have all the pieces still on you that you aren't still carrying a firearm. I'm also not sure if there is some magic point at which a LEO would think so either. Overall I think you'd better just to take it back to your car. If it's in you car, it's not in your posession and you'll be ok....as long as you aren't under the influence when you get back to your car. Here is the TN law. 39-17-1321. Possession of handgun while under influence — Penalty. (a) Notwithstanding whether a person has a permit issued pursuant to § 39-17-1315 or § 39-17-1351, it is an offense for a person to possess a handgun while under the influence of alcohol or any controlled subst. ( It is an offense for a person to possess a firearm if the person is both: (1) Within the confines of an establishment open to the public where liquor, wine or other alcoholic beverages, as defined in § 57-3-101 (a)(1)(A), or beer, as defined in § 57-6-102 (1), are served for consumption on the premises; and (2) Consuming any alcoholic beverage listed in subdivision ( (1). © (1) A violation of this section is a Class A misdemeanor. (2) In addition to the punishment authorized by subdivision ©(1), if the violation is of subsection (a), occurs in an establishment described in subdivision ( (1), and the person has a handgun permit issued pursuant to § 39-17-1351 , such permit shall be suspended in accordance with § 39-17-1352 for a period of three (3) years. However if you did still have it on you and had to use it, you should be covered under 39-17-1322 as for as criminal charges. 39-17-1322. Defenses. A person shall not be charged with or convicted of a violation under this part if the person possessed, displayed or employed a handgun in justifiable self-defense or in justifiable defense of another during the commission of a crime in which that person or the other person defended was a victim.

I think it depends on the situation. The law does allow LEOs to disarm HCP holders if he "reasonably believes it is necessary for the protection of the permit holder, officer or other individual or individuals", it doesn't say he can just for his comfort. I really don't think the legislature saw someone just being armed as a threat to the protection of LEOs, otherwise they surely wouldn't let us go armed. I agree someone having a HCP doesn't automaticly make them a good gut anymore than someone having a badge does. I wouldn't have a problem with a LEO disarming me if I was acting in a way the he truly believed made me a threat to him, me or others. But I do if it just so he can feel better, it's my property, not sure why he should be allowed to deprive me of the posession of it. I answered your question....so what about mine...... Does "officer safety' mean he can pretty much do just whatever he wants regardless of the law, etc...?

Takes priorty over what?...The law? The other persons civil rights? EVERYTHING? Where does it stop? Wouldn't it be safer for officers if no one could be legally armed and ever stop was conducted as a felony stop? If so, why isn't this done? What about officers in states where a permit is not needed to carry and/or not needed for one to be kept in the car? Are those officers less safe than the ones in TN or states where a permit is required? I know officers have a dangerous job, but if they don't feel like they can safely do it within the bounds of the law, perhaps they need to find a different job.